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This page is an Archive of the discussions from WikiProject Human rights talk page (Discussion page). (January 2010 - December 2010) - Please Do not edit!

League for Small and Subject Nationalities, League of Small Nations, etc. ?

I ran across this concept while browsing around, saw no article so tried to dig up some info. I'm a little confused as to how these organisations worked and what the overlap was, and apparently some pretty major figures (WEB DuBois, Rose Standish Nichols , etc) were involved in this process. I'd appreciate any help in digging up info on the subject. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:13, 17 January 2010 (UTC)

WP 1.0 bot announcement

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Purpose of "Category:Human rights in..." categories

Question: is there an agreed purpose for "Category:Human rights in..." categories?

I'm looking at, for instance, Category:Human rights in the United Kingdom, Category:Human rights in Mexico, Category:Human rights in Colombia - and see no sign of these categories being used to group people whose human rights are claimed to have been violated. But this is what is being done with Category:Human rights in Venezuela. Clearly, some editors want to group these people together - but since it is disputed whether their rights have been violated, there's an additional complication. Has this problem arisen elsewhere? Is there a precedent for using the category in this way? Is there some other category that would be more suitable? I haven't seen any. Suggestions? Rd232 ^talk 17:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

equal opportunity / equal outcomes / affirmative action

Your articles on equality seem to contradict each other. You have some that specifically say that affirmative action is a principle of "equality of outcomes", some that say "equal opportunity" employers are ones that practice affirmative action. Which camp is affirmative action in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.254.8.208 (talk) 03:48, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Resolve ambiguity in abolishment table

If anyone wants to comment Talk:Capital punishment in Europe#Two abolishment year columns, then please do, especially if you oppose the suggestion! JoergenB (talk) 15:52, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

GA Review of Akmal Shaikh on hold

The GA review of the Akmal Shaikh article, which is tagged as being within the scope of this project, has been on hold for over 30 days. It is near to being passed, but the Akmal_Shaikh#Reaction section needs editing to reduce the amount of direct quotation as per Wikipedia:Quotations, and also to be trimmed in general to meet GA criteria 3(b): "stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail". Any assistance in this matter would be appreciated. See Talk:Akmal Shaikh/GA1 for more detail. (If you feel that the article does not fall under the scope of this project, please remove the project tag from the article talkpage). SilkTork *^YES! 10:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

The article has now passed. SilkTork *^YES! 14:05, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

New Barnstar

Hello everyone! I propose a new version of the "Barnstar of Liberty", that I just made. Very high resolution, in vector format. What do you think about it? Antonu (talk) 07:39, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

The old barnstar (like many barnstars) is very ugly, which is probably one reason it is not given out too often. Your proposed design is nicer, but a barnstar is generally supposed to be barnstar shaped I think? yours is not so the replacement might grate some nerves from that perspective?Ajbpearce (talk) 21:40, 20 March 2010 (UTC)

Alrighty, how about "Type 2" (barnstar shaped)? It's high resoltion too (png format). Antonu (talk) 14:42, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Or maybe brand new five-pointed "Type 3"? I'm voting for "Type 2" :) Antonu (talk) 18:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

• 
  Old version
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  New Version. Type 1
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  New Version. Type 2
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  New Version. Type 3

Free Speech, "The People’s Darling Privilege"

• Free Speech, "The People’s Darling Privilege"

New article - could be a useful resource for articles within the scope of this WikiProject. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 00:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Human rights in Egypt

This page needs updating really, the majority of the sources were published in 2006 or earlier and it does not take into account recent material. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.213.98.15 (talk) 12:33, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Cyber Rights

I have started a peer review on the article Cyber Rights, which was recently promoted to Good Article quality status. Feel free to provide feedback, at Wikipedia:Peer review/Cyber Rights/archive1. Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Category for discussion notice: Category:Hate groups

Please note that a user has nominated the Category "Hate Groups" for deletion. Please see discussion here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_10#Category:Hate_groups --DCX (talk) 07:50, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Category up for deletion: Opposes LGBT rights

If anyone cares to weigh in on this, please see link below

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_April_12#Category:LGBT_rights_opposition

Thanks!--DCX (talk) 23:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Unreferenced living people articles

This list is now active. There are currently 3 Unreferenced Human rights articles. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 12:37, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Fixed, thanks Ajbpearce (talk) 17:05, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Request for assistance

I've just created a new page entitled Refugee roulette and would be grateful if a more experienced editor could take a look! The page discusses disparities in asylum adjudication in the United States. Thank you! JRN 02:23, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Issues of Crimes Against Humanity and their reparations

Greetings!

I am interested in the issue of reparations of crimes against humanity and the scope of this WikiProj. Can you please either point a previous discussion about it, so I that can read, or explain why the reparations issues are not "human rights", to put it short, or their protection. PS. There's at least 1 more relevant question to the project for the later. Aregakn (talk) 12:30, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Anybody? Aregakn (talk) 20:27, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Since reparations would be for violations of human rights, I would think that would fall within the scope of the project—though they would at least equally or more directly fall under Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations as well (if the reparations were between foreign bodies). Feel free to project-tag any articles you feel relevent with {{WikiProject Human rights}} on the article talk page. I am a relatively new member to this project and am not sure how active the project has been lately, but you might try also asking any questions about reparations at Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations or Wikipedia:WikiProject United Nations if no one else replies here. Good luck, Wikignome0530 (talk) 23:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Having regard to your contributions and comments, it appears you are interested above all in one particular and contentious issue. Reparations for abuses of human rights may well fall within the scope of this project and you should feel free to tag or contribute in relation to these issues, and I (we) would very much welcome the additions! I would say though, that given the nature of the issues that you are talking about I would take particular care that you are not seen, even inadvertently, to fall prey to WP:CANVAS or WP:NPOV. I am sure that would not be an issue, but i thought it bore mention given the slightly unusual nature of your question. Ajbpearce (talk) 23:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Thank you, guys, for your help.

Yes, I am contributing more to those issues, I have more knowledge of and less to those, I have little to add as, I think, we all do. Also I do not see any canvassing issue in trying to involve more uninvolved editors to contribute and/or discussions (not any voting or anything alike), if not the very opposite of what canvassing is coined for, and surely that helps an NPOV to be established, doesn't it? But I understand what you mean, Ajbpearce (thanks).

• The reason I asked is that I was suggested by one of the members of the project, that a reparations issue isn't a human rights issue and thus I wanted to discuss why. In my personal understanding the human rights can be protected only through recognition and condemnation of the crime and the right of restitution is a way to enforce the human rights, isn't it? I'd really like to hear opinions as I rely more on my own thoughts/judgment in this subject rather than the knowledge of legislation.
• I got the point about the international relations, but am experiencing some problems with the UN. Though I do see the link, but is it that related to add to it? Or is it, that the level of relevance doesn't matter much? Aregakn (talk) 00:31, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I just threw the UN link in there as another possible place to get answers, if the other failed (since the UN WikiProject would be familiar with the UN's work in Human rights, and the UN organization(s) involved in human rights.) As far as whether it is a human rights issue, i can see both sides of it. Crimes against humanity definitely are a human rights issue, but I can see where the reparations addressing the original crime -- many years after the fact -- might not be considered human rights in themselves, if the original crime is not still ongoing. It's all in how you look at it, and editors acting in good faith can see it in different ways. Wikignome0530 (talk) 00:41, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

I agree in general but the United Nations Basic Principles and Guidelines on the Right to Reparation for Victims of Gross Violations of Human Rights and International Humanitarian Law provide, that claims relating to reparations for gross violations of human rights and international humanitarian law shall not be subject to statutes of limitations. Aregakn (talk) 01:13, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Popular pages

This is just a note that I am filing a request with User:Mr.Z-man, asking him to add this WikiProject to the list of projects that User:Mr.Z-bot compiles monthly "Popular pages" reports for. (See example at Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Popular pages). The report will be located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights/Popular pages, but will not be posted until the end of this month, as it is only done once a month. Wikignome0530 (talk) 23:50, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

new related WikiProject: United States Public Policy

Hi everyone! I want to invite anyone who's active here and has an interest in American public policy (including policy related to human rights) to join WikiProject United States Public Policy, which is just starting up. We've got some cool things planned, including working with students and their professors for several public policy courses.--Sross (Public Policy) (talk) 13:53, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Pageview stats

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Human rights to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Human rights/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:32, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Assess?

Hi. I've done a bit of work on the privacy case Robbins v. Lower Merion School District, and believe it is now (at least) a B, but would appreciate it if someone were to assess it for quality and for importance to this project. Many thanks.--Epeefleche (talk) 20:46, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Ethnic cleansing

Please take a look at Category talk:Ethnic cleansing. We are currently discussing if that category should be deleted, and in the process I created a table that includes many of the categories of interest to this project. — Sebastian 04:18, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Main Page proposal

As related to Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2010-09-06/News and notes, subsection: "Main page biases?"

• Please see Wikipedia_talk:Today's_featured_article/requests#.2B1_for_women.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 22:04, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Quick thought

Is using a US-centric emblem like the liberty torch for this article setting the wrong (not international enough) tone? As a new Yorker I rather like it, but I thought I'd ask at least. futurebird (talk) 22:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

The current branding by User:Antonu is much much nicer than the rather tired designs we had before. Most "symbols of human rights" either are associated with a particular organisation, or are really legal symbols. The statue/ toruch of liberty does of course have American connotations and might be slightly imperial, but of course the Statue of Liberty is really a french statue of a greek goddess. Unless something drastically better comes along i think that its one of the least important areas of the project to work on in comparison to the many articles in need of love! Ajbpearce (talk) 21:22, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Human rights articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release

Version 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm.

We would like to ask you to review the Human rights articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th.

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For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:08, 19 September 2010 (UTC)

In the news - suggestion

• Witt v. Department of the Air Force

Please see Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#Witt_v._Department_of_the_Air_Force. -- Cirt (talk) 21:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Prevention of abusive editing

I'd like to display the URL of a definition related to Human Rights in a discussion site. What will prevent the opposition in the discussion from changing the page later to their liking? Tselly (talk) 03:28, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

it's a bit off-topic for this page, but, one thing you can do is use a "permanent link" to a specific version of the article. You'll find the option in the toolbox on the left - click on it and use the URL resulting from that. Rd232 ^talk 09:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

GA reassessment of War in Darfur

I have conducted a reassessment of the above article after an editor placed a reassessment tag on the article talk page. You are being notified as your project banner is on the article talk page. I have found a number of concerns which you can see at Talk:War in Darfur/GA1. I have delisted the article as it is not in a good state. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 21:00, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Category:Nanking Massacre deniers

FYI, Category:Nanking Massacre deniers has been nominated for deletion. 76.66.198.128 (talk) 04:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject cleanup listing

I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:09, 7 November 2010 (UTC)

If you are an active wikiproject contributor, Please Reply!!

Hey all, Currently this project is a nice page but not that much else, we seem to work mostly on our own articles, with little co-ordination or real collaboration. Although we have a "list of contributors" I don't know how many of you are active (if anyone!). In an attempt to revive us abit as a wikiproject - It would be great for anyone who is currently active and interested in working on human rights articles to reply here within a week. If we get an idea of who is around perhaps we could organise an pick an article to collaborate on or improve. Alternatively, if there is no-one here but me & the fishes - I can put a notice up about low activity and encouraging new members to post on the talk page so that hopefully we can get more of a community feel!Ajbpearce (talk) 16:42, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

I'm doing a bit here and there, though mostly maintenance ATM. --IdiotSavant (talk) 23:46, 14 November 2010 (UTC)