Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Brigham Young University/Archive 1

Archive 1

BYU FA?

Does anyone think that the main BYU article is getting close to FA status? --Eustress (talk) 20:36, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

It meets the verifiability criteria. I'm more worried about balance and copy-editing issues. Wrad (talk) 22:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
Thanks, Wrad. Could you explain more about what should be done before nomination? I'd like to help, but you have a lot more experience with FAs. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 20:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Project members

FYI...I will be contacting current project members to see who is still committed to participating in this project, as only Wrad and I are currently contributing (I think). Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 20:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Template picture

Does anyone know how to change the picture on the BYU WikiProject template? It's a bit unidentifiable, and something more BYU-related (perhaps the statue of BY or Y-Mountain) would be more appropriate. Thanks. --Eustress (talk) 21:07, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Marriott School Article

I have brought the article up to par and nominated it for GA status.--Eustress (talk) 22:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

WPBYU Page Construction

I'm going to be doing some construction on the project page for the next couple days--it's easiest to do it here rather than in a sandbox, and not too many people check this page right now, so I think the temporary sacrifice will be worth it in the long-run...so if things look weird, just be a little patient. If you have any questions, feel free to comment here or on my talk page. Thanks! --Eustress (talk) 21:01, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

I think it looks good so far, I just hope you're not planning to keep that red color in the background! Wrad (talk) 02:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
What red? The only red I see is in the userbox for BYUH. --Eustress (talk) 13:21, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Gah! I'm actually partially colorblind. Is that brown? I'll just take your word for it. Wrad (talk) 15:29, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah...it's all tan-brown. No worries. --Eustress (talk) 16:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Department of Psychology, Brigham Young University‎

this article was just nominated for speedy deletion as db-group. I declined the speedy, as it doesnt fit under sb-group, for it can be read as an implied assertion of importance to be a department of a major university. But practice at AfD has been tro delete articles about individual university departments, except for a very few of the ones with the greatest international notability. It will probably therefore be taken to AfD rather quickly. I do not think it's a good idea to create such articles as independent articles.DGG (talk) 00:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't think this article should stand on its own - it should be deleted. I re-added the delete tag. --Descartes1979 (talk) 22:22, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Award challenge

An award challenge regarding BYU alumni can be viewed at User:Sharkface217/Awards Center#BYU alumni biographies. --Eustress (talk) 16:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

BYU Jerusalem Center GA

I'm kind of losing it over here and could use some mediation. Not really anyone's fault but mine. Anyway if more than two people were there it might help. Wrad (talk) 03:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Next collaboration

I think our next collaboration ought to be BYU Hawaii. It's pretty important to our project and yet is one of our less-developed articles. Wrad (talk) 17:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

That sounds like a great idea! --Eustress (talk) 00:24, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Next collaboration (August)

I think BYU Hawaii is improved but really needed input of some of its alumni. Shall we tackle BYU-Idaho next? or Brigham Young University Cougars football to gear up for the season? --Eustress (talk) 12:26, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

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New BYU-Idaho article

Hello group members! An editor recently created a new page BYU-Idaho Student Activities. I saw it today (2 December) and while it is well written, I'm not sure the Activities program qualifies as notable enough to stand on its own. Its certainly a somewhat unique aspect of BYU-Idaho that should get a fair-sized section in the article about the school, but my opinion is that it isn't THAT notable since hardly anyone outside of BYU-Idaho even knows it exists. Further, ALL cited sources are from BYU-Idaho, so the article has a promotional, COI feel. In the talk page, the original creator even says: "The information contained in this article has been verified and provided by Brigham Young University-Idaho University Communications and Student Activities." If any of you experienced editors could check it out and offer your imput, it would be appreciated! --JonRidinger (talk) 00:15, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

I'd rather it be on its own article than on the BYU-I page, but I see what you mean. And with the book sources cited, it's hard to know if anything is plagiarized. Anyway, I doubt the article will get too many views, but if you are more concerned, you can look into WP:AfD or do your best to clean up the article. You might at least consider adding an appropriate tag (see WP:Template messages). Best --Eustress (talk) 01:13, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Oh don't get me wrong; if it can stand on its own by all means it should. But I don't think the amount of important, useful info about the Activities Program is enough at this point to warrant a spin-off article, especially considering the BYU-Idaho article is hardly near "too big." Having gone to BYU-Idaho I know many out there think the Activities Program is completely unique and unparalleled, when in fact, many colleges and universities have similar programs, even those with intercollegiate athletics (the U.S. service academies and the University of Notre Dame come to mind). For now it needs tagged with a notability tag at least. I'm hardly a deletionist, but I also know Wikipedia isn't a secondary website for schools to advertise on nor is it an encyclopedia of everything. Thanks for your input and suggestions! --JonRidinger (talk) 01:50, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

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College Fight Songs

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National Register of Historic Places

Part of the BYU campus is listed on the National Register of Historic Places under the name Brigham Young Academy. The Register's database gives the location of this part of campus as "5th and 6th North Sts. and University Ave. and 1st East St." Could someone please determine what building(s) this listing means, and (if appropriate/possible) provide a link and picture for the listing? It's not entirely ready, but I hope by late tomorrow to have National Register of Historic Places listings in Utah County, Utah (a standard NRHP county listings page) online in standard format, ready to receive a link and picture. Nyttend (talk) 00:27, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

I believe this building is now the Provo City Library, not part of the BYU campus. Alanraywiki (talk) 00:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Yep. Wrad (talk) 00:34, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 14:24, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

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Linking to a couple articles

We have Life, the Universe, & Everything and Leading Edge, both of which have existed at BYU for nearly 30 years. I think these should be linked from somewhere in the main BYU article (and possibly from others), but I'm not sure where to put them. I've linked Inscape (journal) and Leading Edge already, as well as linking LTUE and TLE together. ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe 09:34, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Collaboration

Pretty sure it's time for a new collaboration (last was changed August 2008). I suggested BYU Cougars men's lacrosse and even if a new collaboration isn't chosen, the article could use from attention from anyone willing to help. Thanks --Yarnalgo talk to me 18:48, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

Are there any sources about BYU Lacrosse that someone living outside Provo could access? If not, that might be a problem. Wrad (talk) 01:26, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

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Article request: 1911 Evolution Controversy

If anyone would like to tackle an interesting historical event, I think a good article could be created on the 1911 Evolution Controversy at BYU. The basic outline of it is variously described in History of Brigham Young University#George H. Brimhall, and William Henry Chamberlin (philosopher), and Ralph Vary Chamberlin, but I think there are enough sources for an in depth article that can address the societal implications and tracscend the blurb in any existing article. Cheers, --Animalparty-- (talk)

Sources include:

  • Bergera, Gary James (1993). "The 1911 Evolution Controversy at Brigham Young University". In Sessions, Gene A.; Oberg, Craig J. (eds.). The Search for Harmony: Essays on Science and Mormonism. Salt Lake City: Signature Books. pp. 23–41. ISBN 1-56085-020-5. OCLC 25873671.
  • Sherlock, Richard (January–February 1979). "Campus in Crisis: BYU's earliest conflict between secular knowledge and religious belief" (PDF). Sunstone (13): 10–16.
  • Barlow, Philip L. (2013). "The Mormon Response to Higher Criticism". Mormons and the Bible: The Place of the Latter-day Saints in American Religion (Updated ed.). New York: Oxford University Press. pp. 112–161. ISBN 9780199739035.
  • Arrington, Leonard J.; Bitton, Davis (1992). The Mormon Experience: A History of the Latter-Day Saints (2nd ed.). Urbana: University of Illinois Press. pp. 258–261. ISBN 9780252062360.

Update: I've since created the article 1911 Brigham Young University controversy, although it is only a start. All are welcome to contribute. --Animalparty-- (talk) 20:21, 26 April 2015 (UTC)

Seeking offline sources, present in Utah libraries

Hello! I'm seeking to improve Ralph Vary Chamberlin to GA or FA status. The two sources below are apparently present at the libraries of Brigham Young University and/or University of Utah. If anyone has access, and could scan and email them, I would be much appreciative. Cheers, --Animalparty-- (talk) 22:22, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

  • The Ralph Vary Chamberlin honor banquet, December 2, 1957, University of Utah. Salt Lake City. 1957. OCLC 367545343.{{cite book}}: CS1 maint: location missing publisher (link) (booklet?)
  • Jones, David T. (1944). "List of publications of Dr. Ralph V. Chamberlin to June 1st, 1944". Vintonia. 4: 1–22. OCLC 4171096.

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