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Q1: Why is [Insert event here], an event that is "more important and significant" than all the others that are currently listed, not posted?: A1: Relative article quality along with the mix of topics already listed are often deciding factors in what gets posted. Any given day of the year can have a great many important or significant historical events. The problem is that there is generally only room on the Main Page to list about 5 events at a time, so not everything can be posted.

As stated on Wikipedia:FAQ/Main Page, the items and events posted on the Main Page are chosen based more on how well they are written, not based on how much important or significant their subjects are. It is easier for admins to select a well-written, cited, verifiable article over a poor one versus trying to determine objectively how much a subject is important or significant.

Keep in mind that the quality requirements only apply to the selected bolded article, not the other links. Thus, an event may qualify for multiple dates in a year if there is an article written in a summary style and an article providing detailed content; if one of those pages have cleanup issues, the other page can be bolded as an alternate.

Another criterion is to maintain some variety of topics, and not exhibit, just for example, tech-centrism, or the belief that the world stops at the edge of the English-speaking world. Many days have a large pool of potential articles, so they will rotate in and out every year to give each one some Main Page exposure. In addition, an event is not posted if it is also the subject of this year's scheduled featured article or featured picture.

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Q4: Why is the birthday/death anniversary of [Insert name here] not listed?

A4: There are only four slots available for birth and death anniversaries. As with the events, article quality and diversity in time period, geography, and reason for notability are all contributing factors in whether an article gets selected for inclusion.

Q5: Are the holidays/observances listed in any particular order?

A5: Yes, there is a specified order: International observances first, then alphabetically by where observed.

Q6: Some of the holidays/observances that are listed have dates in parentheses beside them. What do they mean?

A6: There are two reasons that some holidays/observances have dates next to them:

Non-Gregorian-based holidays/observances are marked with the current year as a reminder to others that their dates do in fact vary from year to year.
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This page is protected, yet it redirects to a redirect. Someone should fix it so that it redirects to Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/September 7. Oddly enough it isn't listed in the list of double redirects.--Tim Thomason 23:02, 23 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Template:September 7 selected anniversaries redirecting to Wikipedia: Selected anniversaries/September 7 seems fine. I'm not sure what the problem is ? -- PFHLai 05:12, 23 May 2006 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Torrijos–Carter Treaties (maintenance)
Omitted: Genoa C.F.C.; Philo Farnsworth; Thylacine; The Blitz; Hurricane Ivan
Included: Ridolfi plot (first appearance); Guo Huaiyi Rebellion (first appearance); Turtle (submersible) (first appearance); Battle of Borodino (4th appearance, last in 2010; 200th anniversary); Desmond Tutu (7th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 22:27, 6 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Philo Farnsworth (maintenance)
Omitted: Ridolfi plot; Guo Huaiyi Rebellion; Turtle (submersible); Battle of Borodino; Thylacine; Desmond Tutu
Included: Battle of Arsuf (8th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Invasion of Dominica (first appearance); Boxer Protocol (4th appearance, last in 2010); 1999 Athens earthquake/Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy (both: first appearance); 2011 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl air disaster (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:40, 6 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Arsuf; Invasion of Dominica; Boxer Protocol; 1999 Athens earthquake; 2011 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl air disaster
Included: Battle of Borodino (5th appearance, last in 2012); Genoa C.F.C. (2nd appearance, last in 2011); The Blitz (8th appearance, last in 2011); Desmond Tutu (8th appearance, last in 2012); Hurricane Ivan (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 10th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:19, 6 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

Addendum: 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident added for balance (first appearance). —howcheng {chat} 20:06, 7 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Borodino; Genoa C.F.C.; Desmond Tutu; Hurricane Ivan
Included: Ridolfi plot (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Guo Huaiyi Rebellion (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Invasion of Dominica (2nd appearance, last in 2013); 1999 Athens earthquake/Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2013)
Repeats: The Blitz (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:34, 5 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Boxer Protocol (maintenance)
Omitted: Ridolfi plot; Guo Huaiyi Rebellion; Invasion of Dominica; The Blitz; 1999 Athens earthquake/Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy
Included: Battle of Arsuf (9th appearance, last in 2013; 925th anniversary); Battle of Borodino (6th appearance, last in 2013); Thylacine (4th appearance, last in 2012; 80th anniversary); Desmond Tutu (9th appearance, last in 2014; 30th anniversary); Murder of Tupac Shakur (first appearance; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:39, 6 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Ridolfi plot (maintenance); Turtle (submersible) (maintenance); 2011 Lokomotiv Yaroslavl air disaster (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Arsuf; Battle of Borodino; Genoa C.F.C. (ineligible—maintenance); Desmond Tutu (ineligible—maintenance); Murder of Tupac Shakur
Included: Papal election, 1159 (first appearance); Invasion of Dominica (1778) (3rd appearance, last in 2015); The Blitz (10th appearance, last in 2015); 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident (2nd appearance, last in 2014); John Shakespeare (first appearance); Grandma Moses (first appearance); Regina Martínez Pérez (first appearance)
Repeats: Thylacine (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:50, 7 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Boxer Protocol; Desmond Tutu
Omitted: Invasion of Dominica (1778); Thylacine; The Blitz; 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident; John Shakespeare; Grandma Moses; Regina Martínez Pérez
Included: Guo Huaiyi rebellion (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Philo Farnsworth (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); C23 tragedy (first appearance); Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash (2nd appearance, last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Gregory Bicskei (first appearance); Henry Sewell (first appearance)
Repeats: Papal election, 1159 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Regina Martínez Pérez (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:12, 7 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Sir John Perceval, 1st Baronet; Thomas Talbot (Massachusetts)
Omitted: Independence Day (Brazil) (ineligible—maintenance); Papal election, 1159; Guo Huaiyi rebellion; Philo Farnsworth; C23 tragedy; Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash; Gregory Bicskei; Henry Sewell; Regina Martínez Pérez
Included: Battle of Arsuf (10th appearance, last in 2016); Invasion of Dominica (1778) (4th appearance, last in 2017); Boxer Protocol (5th appearance, last in 2013); 1999 Athens earthquake/Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2015; 20th anniversary); Hurricane Ivan (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Johan Ludvig Holstein (first appearance); William Burnet (colonial administrator) (first appearance); Paul Brown (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:00, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Operation Dwarka; Michael DeBakey
Omitted: Battle of Arsuf; Invasion of Dominica (1778); Boxer Protocol; 1999 Athens earthquake/Greek–Turkish earthquake diplomacy; Hurricane Ivan; Johan Ludvig Holstein; William Burnet (colonial administrator); Paul Brown
Included: Guo Huaiyi rebellion (4th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Borodino (7th appearance, last in 2016); The Blitz (11th appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); Desmond Tutu (10th appearance, last in 2016); 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident (3rd appearance, last in 2017; 10th anniversary); Sir John Perceval, 1st Baronet (first appearance); Thomas Talbot (Massachusetts) (first appearance); Cecil Aronowitz (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 21:48, 8 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Apologies if this isn't the correct place to post this, but I suggest adding, to the "on this day (September 7th)" section on the page, something about Brazilian Independence Day? It's a significant event, and the American Independence was added on July 4th-- don't see why Brazil's shouldn't. Please let me know if this is the wrong place to post this, feel free to remove it if it is, etc.

Independence Day (Brazil) is currently ineligible due to lacking footnotes in the "In Brazil" and "National Independence Day parade in Brasília" sections. —howcheng {chat} 20:51, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Battle of Babylon Hill (TFA for 2021)
Omitted: Guo Huaiyi rebellion; Battle of Borodino; The Blitz; Desmond Tutu; 2010 Senkaku boat collision incident; Sir John Perceval, 1st Baronet; Thomas Talbot (Massachusetts); Cecil Aronowitz
Included: 1159 papal election (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Invasion of Dominica (1778) (5th appearance, last in 2019); Philo Farnsworth (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Operation Dwarka (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Robert Estienne (first appearance); Emil Korytko (first appearance); Michael DeBakey (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:49, 8 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: 1159 papal election; Invasion of Dominica (1778); Philo Farnsworth (ineligible—maintenance); Operation Dwarka (ineligible—maintenance); Lokomotiv Yaroslavl plane crash; Robert Estienne; Emil Korytko; Michael DeBakey
Included: Battle of Arsuf (11th appearance, last in 2019); Battle of Babylon Hill (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Thylacine (6th appearance, last in 2017); Desmond Tutu (11th appearance, last in 2020); Hurricane Ivan (4th appearance, last in 2019); Grandma Moses (2nd appearance, last in 2017); William Stewart Halsted (first appearance; 100th anniversary; Regina Martínez Pérez (5th appearance, last in 2022; keeps appearing on April 28, her death anniversary, but I finally noticed and deleted it this year)

—howcheng {chat} 20:48, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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