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Pope Gregory I edit

Latest comment: 15 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Perhaps it is too late, however, I believe that the coronation of Pope Gregory I (arguably one of the most influential popes) in AD 590 is more important than a spark at a chicken nugget factory in 1991. -- Ambrosiaster (talk) 16:11, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

It was me who both wrote the other other article and stuck it in the template. Yes, it is too late for this year, but I will modify the template once it leaves the main page and replace with the item you suggested. Blood Red Sandman ^{(Talk) (Contribs)} 16:42, 3 September 2008 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Battle of Worcester
Omitted: Battle of Lalakaon; Łachwa Ghetto; Giuseppe Farina (ineligible—maintenance); Hamlet chicken processing plant fire; Beslan school hostage crisis (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Pope Gregory I (3rd appearance, last in 2010); Richard I of England (4th appearance, last in 2010); Frederick Douglass (first appearance); Flag of Australia (5th appearance as blurb, last in 2010); Holy Cross dispute (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:39, 2 September 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Battle of Cooch's Bridge
Omitted: Qatar (ineligible—maintenance); Pope Gregory I; Richard I of England; Frederick Douglass; Flag of Australia; Łachwa Ghetto; Holy Cross dispute
Included: Battle of Lalakaon (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Worcester (first appearance); Treaty of Paris (1783) (8th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Zyklon B (first appearance); Hamlet chicken processing plant fire (3rd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 06:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Lalakaon; Battle of Worcester; Treaty of Paris (1783); Zyklon B; Hamlet chicken processing plant fire
Included: Qatar (rescued from Ineligible); Richard I of England (6th appearance, last in 2012; 925th anniversary); Battle of Cooch's Bridge (first appearance); Frederick Douglass (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Łachwa Ghetto (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Holy Cross dispute (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 06:49, 2 September 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Richard I of England; Battle of Cooch's Bridge; Frederick Douglass; Łachwa Ghetto; Holy Cross dispute
Included: Pope Gregory I (4th appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Worcester (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Flag of Australia (8th appearance, last in 2012); USS Shenandoah (ZR-1) (first appearance; 90th anniversary); Zyklon B (2nd appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 06:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Frederick Douglass (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Giuseppe Farina
Omitted: Pope Gregory I; Battle of Worcester; Flag of Australia; USS Shenandoah (ZR-1)
Included: Battle of Lalakaon (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Richard I of England (6th appearance, last in 2014); Peace of Paris (1783) (first appearance); Hamlet chicken processing plant fire (4th appearance, last in 2013; 25th anniversary)
Repeats: Zyklon B (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total; 75th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:52, 3 September 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: USS Shenandoah (ZR-1) (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Frank Capra; Pauline Kael
Omitted: Battle of Lalakaon; Richard I of England (ineligible—maintenance); Peace of Paris (1783) (ineligible—maintenance); Zyklon B; Hamlet chicken processing plant fire
Included: Battle of Naulochus (first appearance); Battle of Cooch's Bridge (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Malcolm Campbell (first appearance); Łachwa Ghetto (4th appearance, last in 2014); Holy Cross dispute (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Edward Coke (first appearance); Prudence Crandall (first appearance); Tereska Torrès (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:34, 3 September 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Pope Gregory I (maintenance); Frank Capra (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Naulochus; Battle of Cooch's Bridge; Malcolm Campbell; Łachwa Ghetto; Holy Cross dispute; Edward Coke; Prudence Crandall; Tereska Torrès
Included: Battle of Lalakaon (4th appearance, last in 2016); Flag of Australia (9th appearance, last in 2015); Red Terror (8th appearance, last in 2016; moved from August 30; 100th anniversary); Giuseppe Farina (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Hamlet chicken processing plant fire (5th appearance, last in 2016); Frank Macfarlane Burnet (first appearance); Gaston Thorn (first appearance); Pauline Kael (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:20, 4 September 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Percy Chapman
Omitted: Battle of Lalakaon; Flag of Australia; Hamlet chicken processing plant fire; Gaston Thorn; Pauline Kael
Included: Battle of Worcester (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Sinking of SS Princess Alice (2nd appearance, last in 2004; rescued from Ineligible); Holy Cross dispute (4th appearance, last in 2017); Umar al-Aqta (first appearance); Scott Carson (first appearance)
Repeats: Red Terror (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total); Giuseppe Farina (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Macfarlane Burnet (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:21, 9 September 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Worcester (ineligible—maintenance); Sinking of SS Princess Alice; Red Terror; Giuseppe Farina (ineligible—maintenance); Holy Cross dispute; Umar al-Aqta; Macfarlane Burnet; Scott Carson
Included: Pope Gregory I (5th appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Cooch's Bridge (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Flag of Australia (10th appearance, last in 2018); Malcolm Campbell (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Beslan school siege (2nd appearance, last in 2011; rescued from Ineligible); Archibald Bower (first appearance); Tereska Torrès (3rd appearance, last in 2019; also appeared on September 20, her death date; 100th birthday); Vince Lombardi (first appearance; 50th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 20:40, 4 September 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Red Terror (maintenance); Zyklon B (date not in article)
New articles (ineligible): Battle of Dunbar (1650) (TFA for 2021
Omitted: Pope Gregory I; Battle of Cooch's Bridge; Malcolm Campbell; Beslan school siege; Archibald Bower; Tereska Torrès; Vince Lombardi
Included: Battle of Naulochus (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Battle of Worcester (4th appearance, last in 2019); Hamlet chicken processing plant fire (6th appearance, last in 2018; 30th anniversary); Holy Cross dispute (5th appearance, last in 2019; 20th anniversary); Umar al-Aqta (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Percy Chapman (first appearance); Pauline Kael (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: Flag of Australia (2nd consecutive appearance, 11 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:22, 4 September 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Pope Gregory I (maintenance); Beslan school siege (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Naulochus; Battle of Worcester; Flag of Australia; Holy Cross dispute; Percy Chapman; Pauline Kael
Included: Battle of Lalakaon (5th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Dunbar (1650) (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Sinking of SS Princess Alice (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Łachwa Ghetto (5th appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); Edward Coke (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Macfarlane Burnet (3rd appearance, last in 2019)
Repeats: Hamlet chicken processing plant fire (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Umar al-Aqta (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 20:06, 19 September 2022 (UTC)Reply

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