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RMS Trent edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

We have an article on this ship (RMS Trent) so it could be linked in the SA text (as the US ship is). I did add the link but self-reverted as I was not aware of whether the article had to meet some sort of standard before it could be linked. If not someone more knowledgeable about the guidelines can come and re-add it. If it does need to be a better article then I will leave this here in the hopes that someone will notice and improve it. Cheers -Dumelow (talk) 23:07, 8 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

The quality requirement only applies to the selected bolded article. Otherwise it would be rather difficult to maintain the Main Page as a portal page, linking various articles for both new and regular users. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:42, 9 November 2009 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of White Mountain (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Dorothy Kilgallen
Omitted: Pacification of Ghent; Trent Affair; X-ray; Battle of Gang Toi; Led Zeppelin IV
Included: Bodleian Library (first appearance); 1892 New Orleans general strike (first appearance); Thessaloniki (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Battle of Elaia–Kalamas (first appearance); Remembrance Day bombing (5th appearance, last in 2010)

—howcheng {chat} 07:40, 7 November 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Bodleian Library; 1892 New Orleans general strike; Thessaloniki (deleted; see Wikipedia talk:Selected anniversaries/October 26); Remembrance Day bombing
Included: Shunzhi Emperor (first appearance); Mount Holyoke College (first appearance); X-ray (3rd appearance, last in 2011); British Indian Ocean Territory (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Elaia–Kalamas (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:15, 7 November 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Omitted: Mount Holyoke College (ineligible—maintenance); X-ray; Battle of Elaia–Kalamas; British Indian Ocean Territory
Included: Pacification of Ghent (5th appearance, last in 2011); Trent Affair (5th appearance, last in 2011); Dorothy Kilgallen (3rd appearance, last in 2011); Remembrance Day bombing (6th appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Shunzhi Emperor (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:17, 7 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

Per the discussion at Wikipedia:Fringe theories/Noticeboard#Fringe Theories on the Front Page.3F, I will remove Dorothy Kilgallen. An alternative was suggested: "The Bodleian Library, one of Europe's oldest libraries, opened at the University of Oxford." It appears the year for that would be 1602. - Location (talk) 04:29, 19 November 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Pacification of Ghent; Shunzhi Emperor; Trent Affair; Dorothy Kilgallen (deleted—see above); Remembrance Day bombing
Included: Bodleian Library (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Mount Holyoke College (2nd appearance, last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Elaia–Kalamas (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 75th anniversary); Battle of Gang Toi (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 50th anniversary); Typhoon Haiyan (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 11:22, 6 November 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Pacification of Ghent (maintenance); 1892 New Orleans general strike (maintenance); British Indian Ocean Territory (maintenance)
Omitted: Demetrius of Thessaloniki (ineligible—maintenance); Remembrance Sunday (ineligible—maintenance); Bodleian Library; Mount Holyoke College; Battle of Elaia–Kalamas; Battle of Gang Toi; Typhoon Haiyan
Included: Trần Thánh Tông (first appearance); Shunzhi Emperor (3rd appearance, last in 2014); X-ray (4th appearance, last in 2013); Edward Brooke (first appearance; 50th anniversary); Remembrance Day bombing (7th appearance, last in 2014)

—howcheng {chat} 17:57, 7 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Bodleian Library (maintenance); Mount Holyoke College (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Robert Catesby
Omitted: Trần Thánh Tông; X-ray (ineligible—maintenance); Edward Brooke
Included: Battle of Andrassos (first appearance); Johann Georg Elser (first appearance); HBO (first appearance); Baeda Maryam I (first appearance); Hermann Rorschach (first appearance); Dorothy Kilgallen (first appearance)
Repeats: Shunzhi Emperor (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Remembrance Day bombing (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:15, 9 November 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): 2006 shelling of Beit Hanoun
Omitted: Battle of Andrassos; Georg Elser; HBO; Remembrance Day bombing; Baeda Maryam I; Hermann Rorschach; Dorothy Kilgallen
Included: Trent Affair (6th appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Elaia–Kalamas (4th appearance, last in 2015); Led Zeppelin IV (2nd appearance, last in 2011); 2016 Indian banknote demonetisation (first appearance); Lettice Knollys (first appearance); Friedrich Wilhelm von Seydlitz (first appearance); Stylianos Pattakos (first appearance)
Repeats: Shunzhi Emperor (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:31, 8 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Pan Am Flight 7 (appeared on DYK on 2019-09-14)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Beer Hall Putsch
Omitted: Shunzhi Emperor; Battle of Elaia–Kalamas; Led Zeppelin IV; 2016 Indian banknote demonetisation; Lettice Knollys; Friedrich Wilhelm von Seydlitz; Stylianos Pattakos
Included: Venetian glass (first appearance); Georg Elser (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 80th anniversary); John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan; 2006 shelling of Beit Hanoun (first appearance); Robert Catesby/Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot) (both: first appearance); Dorothea Bate (first appearance); Chika Kuroda (first appearance)
Repeats: Trent Affair (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:57, 11 November 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Trần Thánh Tông (maintenance); Beer Hall Putsch (maintenance); Typhoon Haiyan (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Sancha of León (some confusion about death date); Arnold Bax (TFA for 2020-03-18)
Omitted: Venetian glass; Georg Elser (ineligible—maintenance); John Bingham, 7th Earl of Lucan; 2006 shelling of Beit Hanoun; Thomas Percy (Gunpowder Plot); Dorothea Bate; Chika Kuroda
Included: Stockholm Bloodbath (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible; 500th anniversary); Shunzhi Emperor (6th appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Elaia–Kalamas (5th appearance, last in 2018; 80th anniversary); Remembrance Day bombing (9th appearance, last in 2017); Thomas Bewick (first appearance); Tom Anderson (first appearance; 50th birthday)
Repeats: Robert Catesby (2nd appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:48, 10 November 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (ineligible): James A. Doonan (TFA for 2021)
New articles (unused): Battle of Shusha (2020); Kamal Ranadive
Omitted: Stockholm Bloodbath; Shunzhi Emperor; Remembrance Day bombing; Robert Catesby; Thomas Bewick; Tom Anderson
Included: Trần Thánh Tông (2nd appearance, last in 2016); Trent Affair (8th appearance, last in 2019); Led Zeppelin IV (3rd appearance, last in 2018; 50th anniversary); 2016 Indian banknote demonetisation (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Nyaungyan Min (first appearance); Arnold Bax (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Subroto Mukerjee (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Elaia–Kalamas (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:14, 9 November 2021 (UTC)Reply

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