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stone "was laid" at a particular minute? edit

Latest comment: 17 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved from Talk:Main Page

Clocks in the 12th century were not very accurate. I rewrote the text in the Charles Bridge article to make clear that this 5:31 a.m. is a "specified time". If they got it right to the nearest five minutes, then they were probably doing pretty good for that era. We do not know what really happened, but I suppose there is no need to change the text. That is, unless we care about reporting "the Truth". -- 75.26.5.242 00:57, 9 July 2006 (UTC)Reply

Edit request edit

Latest comment: 14 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

{{editprotected}} One of the entries on this page does not read well:

1944 – World War II: American forces defeated Japanese on the island of Saipan in the Mariana Islands.

I would suggest a change to:

1944 – World War II: American forces defeated Japanese forces on the island of Saipan in the Mariana Islands.

Yes, I know it's mind-blowingly trivial but that's the consequence of page protection! Cynical (talk) 18:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

Fixed, thanks. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:14, 9 July 2009 (UTC)Reply

South Sudan edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

No reference to South Sudan's independence?--Tim Thomason 23:07, 8 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

I agree, if we indicate Argentina's independence day, we should indicate

South Sudan's independence. JaumeBG 00:25, 9 July 2011 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Cross of Gold speech (TFA for 2012); Starfish Prime
Omitted: Battle of the Monongahela; Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord (ineligible—maintenance); Allied invasion of Sicily; Iran student protests, July 1999; African Union (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Avitus (first appearance); 869 Jogan Sanriku earthquake (first appearance); Millard Fillmore (first appearance); Campbell's Soup Cans (2nd appearance, last in 2010; 50th anniversary); Great Prophet III (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:26, 9 July 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Iran student protests, July 1999 (maintenance)
New articles (unused): 1877 Wimbledon Championship (blurb previously featured The Championships, Wimbledon); 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami
Omitted: Avitus; 869 Jogan Sanriku earthquake; Millard Fillmore; Campbell's Soup Cans; Great Prophet III
Included: Martyrs of Gorkum (first appearance); Battle of Melle (first appearance); Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (5th appearance, last in 2010); Allied invasion of Sicily (3rd appearance, last in 2011; 70th anniversary); Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario (both: first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 05:44, 8 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Edit request on 9 July 2013 edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

This edit request has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request.

Ramadan Begins on 10 July till 9 August (estimate)

81.111.208.158 (talk) 12:22, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

Not done: It looks like this page was right but the Ramadan article was wrong - see this page. I've updated the article instead. Also, for next time things on the front page should be reported to WP:ERRORS. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ^{♪ talk ♪} 12:59, 9 July 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Avitus (maintenance)
Omitted: Martyrs of Gorkum; Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution; Allied invasion of Sicily; Donkey Kong (video game)
Included: 1877 Wimbledon Championship (first appearance); Cross of Gold speech (first appearance); 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami (first appearance); Navaly church bombing (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Melle (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:38, 8 July 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Melle; 1877 Wimbledon Championship; Cross of Gold speech; 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami
Included: 869 Sanriku earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Svensksund (first appearance); Constitution of Australia (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Johnny Weissmuller (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Navaly church bombing (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 06:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

Addendum: Martyrs of Gorkum added later for balance (2nd appearance, last in 2013). —howcheng {chat} 03:25, 9 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Saipan (maintenance)
Omitted: 869 Sanriku earthquake; Martyrs of Gorkum; Battle of Svensksund; Constitution of Australia; Johnny Weissmuller; Navaly church bombing
Included: Battle of Melle (3rd appearance, last in 2014); David Thompson (explorer) (first appearance); Allied invasion of Sicily (4th appearance, last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario (both: 2nd appearance, last in 2013); Great Prophet III (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 16:20, 7 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of the Monongahela (maintenance)
Omitted: David Thompson (explorer) (ineligible—maintenance); Allied invasion of Sicily; Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario; Great Prophet III
Included: 1877 Wimbledon Championship (2nd appearance, last in 2014); Constitution of Australia (3rd appearance, last in 2015); 1937 Fox vault fire (first appearance; 80th anniversary); Navaly church bombing (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Edmund Burke (first appearance); Eugenia Tadolini (first appearance0; Jessica Anderson (first appearance0
Repeats: Battle of Melle (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:27, 9 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Johnny Weissmuller (maintenance)
New articles (unused): John Punch (slave)
Omitted: Battle of Melle; 1877 Wimbledon Championship; Constitution of Australia; 1937 Fox vault fire; Navaly church bombing; Edmund Burke; Eugenia Tadolini (deleted—date of birth not verifiable); Jessica Anderson (ineligible—maintenance)
Included: Martyrs of Gorkum (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (6th appearance, last in 2013; 150th anniversary); Allied invasion of Sicily (5th appearance, last in 2016; 75th anniversary); 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami (2nd appearance, last in 2014; 60th anniversary); Great Prophet III (3rd appearance, last in 2016; 10th anniversary); Jan van Eyck (first appearance); Elizabeth of Austria (1526–1545) (first appearance); Tom Hanks (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 16:07, 10 July 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): 551 Beirut earthquake
Omitted: Martyrs of Gorkum; Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution; Allied invasion of Sicily (ineligible—maintenance); 1958 Lituya Bay megatsunami; Great Prophet III; Jan van Eyck; Elizabeth of Austria (1526–1545); Tom Hanks
Included: 869 Sanriku earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2015; 1150th anniversary); Battle of Carpi (first appearance); Battle of Svensksund (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Starfish Prime (first appearance); Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario (both: 3rd appearance, last in 2016); Ann Radcliffe (first appearance); Clarence Campbell (first appearance); Shin Jae-chul (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:53, 17 July 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Jessica Anderson (moved to September 25)
Moved to Ineligible: Martyrs of Gorkum (maintenance); Millard Fillmore (TFA for 2020-01-07)
New articles (unused): Anastasius I Dicorus; Sebald Heyden
Omitted: 869 Sanriku earthquake; Battle of Carpi; Battle of Svensksund (ineligible—maintenance); Starfish Prime; Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario; Ann Radcliffe; Clarence Campbell (ineligible—maintenance); Shin Jae-chul
Included: 551 Beirut earthquake (first appearance); Battle of Melle (5th appearance, last in 2017; 275th anniversary); 1877 Wimbledon Championship (3rd appearance, last in 2017); Russell–Einstein Manifesto (4th appearance, last in 2008; rescued from Ineligible); Navaly church bombing (4th appearance, last in 2017); Ariwara no Narihira (first appearance); Elias Howe (2nd appearance, last in 2004; previously appeared on September 10); Margie Gillis (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 22:21, 10 July 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Carpi (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Millard Fillmore
New articles (unused): Shelton Benjamin
Omitted: 551 Beirut earthquake; Battle of Melle; 1877 Wimbledon Championship; Russell–Einstein Manifesto; Ariwara no Narihira; Elias Howe; Margie Gillis
Included: South Sudan (rescued from Ineligible); John Punch (slave) (first appearance); Battle of Svensksund (3rd appearance, last in 2019; rescued from Ineligible); 1958 Lituya Bay earthquake and megatsunami (3rd appearance, last in 2018); Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario (both: 4th appearance, last in 2019); Anastasius I Dicorus (first appearance); Sebald Heyden (first appearance); Mercedes Sosa (first appearance)
Repeats: Navaly church bombing (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:36, 10 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): David Thompson (explorer)
Omitted: Argentina (ineligible—maintenance); South Sudan (ineligible—maintenance); John Punch (slave); Battle of Svensksund; 1958 Lituya Bay earthquake and megatsunami; Donkey Kong (video game)/Mario; Navaly church bombing; Anastasius I Dicorus; Sebald Heyden; Mercedes Sosa
Included: Mozart family grand tour (first appearance); 1877 Wimbledon Championship (4th appearance, last in 2020); Cross of Gold speech (2nd appearance, last in 2014); 1937 Fox vault fire (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Campbell's Soup Cans (3rd appearance, last in 2012; 60th anniversary); Ariwara no Narihira (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Elizabeth of Austria (1526–1545) (2nd appearance, last in 2018); John Archibald Wheeler (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 04:43, 10 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

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