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Can an admin add "(flag pictured)" after the Independence Day in Tanzania entry, as is the usual practice. -- AJR | Talk 00:12, 5 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Milton 400 edit

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

John Milton, born on 9th December, 1608.

It's John Milton's 400th birthday. Is the author of Paradise Lost and Areopagitica famous enough to have his quatercentenary posted on SA/OTD? His wikibio doesn't mention anything about the celebrations ([1], [2], [3]), though. --PFHLai (talk) 22:16, 7 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

Mother of All Demos edit

Latest comment: 15 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

In the NLS item, the words “publicly demonstrated” should be linked to The Mother of All Demos. — crism (talk) 04:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)Reply

2011 notes edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Catholic University of Leuven, Battle of Ayacucho, P. B. S. Pinchback, Doctors' Trial all swapped out and moved to Ineligible for maintenance reasons
Tanganyika moved to Ineligible for being a stub
Lech Wałęsa moved to Ineligible as it appeared on August 14
New articles (not used): Battle of Great Bridge, Cross Mountain Mine disaster, Operation Compass, Kecksburg UFO incident, Rogers Plan
Swapped in: Battle of Jerusalem (1917) (first appearance), Spanish Constitution of 1931 (first appearance), NLS (computer system) (2nd appearance, last in 2008), Mumia Abu-Jamal (first appearance, 20th anniversary, just had a recent update so somewhat topical)
Left in: Smallpox (3rd consecutive appearance)
Note: Lots of US-related articles, otherwise would have put in Cross Mountain (100th anniversary)

--howcheng {chat} 22:14, 10 December 2011 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Jerusalem (1917); NLS (computer system); Smallpox; Mumia Abu-Jamal
Included: P. B. S. Pinchback (2nd appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible); Cross Mountain Mine disaster (first appearance); Operation Compass (first appearance); Rogers Plan (first appearance)
Repeats: Spanish Constitution of 1931 (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:02, 8 December 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: P. B. S. Pinchback; Cross Mountain Mine disaster; Spanish Constitution of 1931; Operation Compass; Rogers Plan
Included: Battle of Great Bridge (first appearance); Battle of Jerusalem (1917) (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Douglas Engelbart (first appearance; blurb previously featured NLS (computer system)); Smallpox (7th appearance, last in 2011); Rod Blagojevich corruption charges (2nd appearance, last in 2009)

—howcheng {chat} 06:26, 8 December 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): A Charlie Brown Christmas
Omitted: Tanzania (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Great Bridge; Douglas Engelbart/The Mother of All Demos; Rod Blagojevich corruption charges
Included: P. B. S. Pinchback (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Spanish Constitution of 1931 (3rd appearance, last in 2012); John Birch Society (4th appearance, last in 2006)
Repeats: Battle of Jerusalem (1917) (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Smallpox (2nd consecutive appearance, 8 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:43, 8 December 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: P. B. S. Pinchback; Battle of Jerusalem (1917); John Birch Society;
Included: Battle of Great Bridge (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Operation Compass (2nd appearance, last in 2012); A Charlie Brown Christmas (first appearance; 50th anniversary)
Repeats: Spanish Constitution of 1931 (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Smallpox (3rd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:31, 8 December 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Great Bridge; Spanish Constitution of 1931; Operation Compass; A Charlie Brown Christmas; Smallpox
Included: P. B. S. Pinchback (4th appearance, last in 2014); 1905 French law on the Separation of the Churches and the State (6th appearance, last in 2009; rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Jerusalem (4th appearance, last in 2014); Genocide Convention (first appearance); Douglas Engelbart/The Mother of All Demos (Engelbart: 2nd appearance, last in 2013; Demos: first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 17:18, 7 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Kecksburg UFO incident (maintenance); A Charlie Brown Christmas (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Impeachment of Park Geun-hye; Denise Phua
Omitted: P. B. S. Pinchback; 1905 French law on the Separation of the Churches and the State; Genocide Convention; Douglas Engelbart/The Mother of All Demos
Included: Battle of Great Bridge (3rd appearance, last in 2015); La Fronde (newspaper) (first appearance; blurb previously featured Marguerite Durand, which is currently ineligible, and last appeared in 2006); Spanish Constitution of 1931 (5th appearance, last in 2015); Smallpox (10th appearance, last in 2015); Al-Biruni (first appearance); Fritz Haber (first appearance); Joan Armatrading (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Jerusalem (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:22, 10 December 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: John Birch Society (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Kecksburg UFO incident
Omitted: Battle of Great Bridge; La Fronde (newspaper); Battle of Jerusalem; Spanish Constitution of 1931 (ineligible—maintenance); Smallpox; Al-Biruni (deleted—death date not certain); Joan Armatrading
Included: Battle of Reading (1688); Newcastle United F.C.; Genocide Convention (2nd appearance, last in 2016; 70th anniversary); Douglas Engelbart/The Mother of All Demos (Engelbart: 3rd appearance; Demos: 2nd appearance; both last in 2016; 50th anniversary); Rod Blagojevich corruption charges (3rd appearance, last in 2013; 20th anniversary); Nasr ibn Sayyar (first appearance); Lilias Armstrong (first appearance)
Repeats: Fritz Haber (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 150th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 04:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Topfreedom in Canada; Same-sex marriage in Australia/Marriage Amendment (Definition and Religious Freedoms) Act 2017
Omitted: Battle of Reading (1688); Newcastle United F.C.; Genocide Convention; Douglas Engelbart/The Mother of All Demos; Rod Blagojevich corruption charges; Nasr ibn Sayyar; Fritz Haber; Lilias Armstrong
Included: Battle of Great Bridge (4th appearance, last in 2017); 1905 French law on the Separation of the Churches and the State (7th appearance, last in 2016); Rogers Plan (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 50th anniversary); Smallpox (11th appearance, last in 2017; 40th anniversary); Impeachment of Park Geun-hye (first appearance); Gertrude of Brunswick (first appearance); Joe Kelley (first appearance); Denise Phua (first appearance; 60th birthday)

—howcheng {chat} 16:46, 10 December 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Moved to Ineligible: P. B. S. Pinchback (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): Alister Murdoch (TFA for 2020); Edward Hyde, 1st Earl of Clarendon (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Great Bridge; 1905 French law on the Separation of the Churches and the State; Rogers Plan; Smallpox; Impeachment of Park Geun-hye; Joe Kelley; Denise Phua
Included: La Fronde (newspaper) (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Cross Mountain Mine disaster (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Operation Compass (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Same-sex marriage in Australia/Marriage Amendment (Definition and Religious Freedoms) Act 2017 (both: first appearance); Íñigo López de Mendoza, 4th Duke of the Infantado (first appearance); Joan Armatrading (2nd appearance, last in 2017; 70th birthday)
Repeats: Gertrude of Brunswick (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Topfreedom in Canada (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Alister Murdoch; Giacomo dalla Torre del Tempio di Sanguinetto
Omitted: La Fronde (newspaper); Cross Mountain Mine disaster; Operation Compass; Same-sex marriage in Australia; Gertrude of Brunswick; Íñigo López de Mendoza, 4th Duke of the Infantado; Joan Armatrading
Included: Newcastle United F.C. (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Battle of Jerusalem (6th appearance, last in 2017); Tanganyika Territory (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible; blurb previously featured Tanganyika (1961–1964), which remains ineligible, and is making its 4th appearance, last in 2008); Mumia Abu-Jamal (2nd appearance, last in 2011; 40th anniversary); Park Geun-hye/Impeachment of Park Geun-hye (Park: first appearance; Impeachment: 2nd, last in 2019); Vaišvilkas (first appearance); Joe Kelley (2nd appearance, last in 2019; 150th birthday); Feroz Khan Noon (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 07:50, 10 December 2021 (UTC)Reply

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