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The IceCube Neutrino Observatory is a neutrino observatory constructed at the Amundsen–Scott South Pole Station in Antarctica. Similar to its predecessor, the Antarctic Muon And Neutrino Detector Array (AMANDA), IceCube consists of spherical optical sensors called Digital Optical Modules (DOMs), each with a photomultiplier tube (PMT). This photo of the observatory was taken in January 2023. IceCube Neutrino Observatory

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2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Stanhope Park; Pope Pius X; Gulf of Tonkin incident; Comfort women; María del Luján Telpuk
Included: Battle of Evesham (2nd appearance, last in 2010); Battle of Lonato (first appearance); Italicus Express bombing 1974 (first appearance); Burkina Faso (4th appearance as blurb, last in 2010); MTS Oceanos (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 06:14, 3 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Pope Pius X (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Evesham; Battle of Lonato; Italicus Express bombing 1974; MTS Oceanos; María del Luján Telpuk
Included: Second Temple (first appearance); Battle of Stanhope Park (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Mount Asama (first appearance); Thomas Sankara (4th appearance, last in 2008; blurb previously featured Burkina Faso, which is currently ineligible); 2006 Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 09:40, 3 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): United States Revenue Cutter Service
Omitted: Second Temple; Battle of Stanhope Park (ineligible—maintenance); Mount Asama; Thomas Sankara; 2006 Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers
Included: Battle of Evesham (3rd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Lonato (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Gulf of Tonkin incident (8th appearance, last in 2011; 50th anniversary); Italicus Express bombing 1974 (2nd appearance, last in 2012; 40th anniversary); Comfort women (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 05:35, 3 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Deleted: Second Temple (date not actually mentioned in article)
Moved to Ineligible: MTS Oceanos (maintenance)
Omitted: Cook Islands (ineligible—maintenance); Battle of Lonato; Italicus Express bombing 1974; Comfort women
Included: United States Revenue Cutter Service (5th appearance, last in 2008; 225th anniversary); Operation Storm (first appearance; 10th anniversary); María del Luján Telpuk (3rd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Battle of Evesham (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Gulf of Tonkin incident (2nd consecutive appearance, 9 total)

—howcheng {chat} 19:56, 2 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Evesham; United States Revenue Cutter Service; Operation Storm; María del Luján Telpuk
Included: Mount Asama (2nd appearance, last in 2013); Treaty of London (1839) (5th appearance, last in 2007; rescued from Ineligible); Thomas Sankara (5th appearance, last in 2013); 2006 Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers (2nd appearance, last in 2013; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Gulf of Tonkin incident (3rd consecutive appearance, 10 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:01, 3 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: United States Revenue Cutter Service (maintenance); Italicus Express bombing (maintenance)
Omitted: Cook Islands (ineligible—maintenance); Mount Asama; Gulf of Tonkin incident (ineligible—maintenance); 2006 Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers
Included: Battle of Evesham (5th appearance, last in 2015); Austro-Turkish War (1788–91) (first appearance); Comfort women (3rd appearance, last in 2014); María del Luján Telpuk (4th appearance, last in 2014; 10th anniversary); Jan van den Hoecke (first appearance); John Vianney (first appearance); Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother (first appearance)
Repeats: Treaty of London (1839) (2nd consecutive appearance, 6 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Thomas Sankara (maintenance)
Rescued from Ineligible (unused): MTS Oceanos
Omitted: Battle of Evesham; Austro-Turkish War (1788–1791); Comfort women; María del Luján Telpuk; Jan van den Hoecke; John Vianney; Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother
Included: Capture of Gibraltar (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Mount Asama (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Gulf of Tonkin incident (11th appearance, last in 2016; rescued from Ineligible); Operation Storm (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Henry I of France (first appearance); John Venn (first appearance); David Lange (first appearance)
Repeats: Treaty of London (1839) (3rd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Maurice Richard; John Wark; Meghan, Duchess of Sussex
Omitted: Capture of Gibraltar; Operation Storm; Henry I of France; John Venn; David Lange
Included: Battle of Evesham (6th appearance, last in 2017); María del Luján Telpuk (5th appearance, last in 2017); Peter de Montfort (first appearance); Laura Knight (first appearance); Jessica Mauboy (first appearance; 30th birthday)
Repeats: Mount Asama (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total); Treaty of London (1839)/German invasion of Belgium (Treaty: 4th consecutive appearance, 6 total; Invasion: first appearance); Gulf of Tonkin incident (2nd consecutive appearance, 12 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:56, 6 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: James Thompson (surveyor) (TFA for 2020)
New articles (ineligible): As-Salih Ismail, Sultan of Egypt (date not cited); Osbert Lancaster (TFA for 2020-07-27)
Omitted: Battle of Evesham; Treaty of London (1839); María del Luján Telpuk/Suitcase scandal; Peter de Montfort; Laura Knight; Jessica Mauboy
Included: Battle of Lonato (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Operation Storm (4th appearance, last in 2018); Harry Lauder (first appearance); Samuel J. Tilden (first appearance); Helen Thomas (first appearance; 100th birthday)
Repeats: Mount Asama (3rd consecutive appearance, 5 total); Gulf of Tonkin incident (3rd consecutive appearance, 13 total)

—howcheng {chat} 21:45, 5 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

Hi! I was going through that page today, and I noticed that we omitted any reference to last year's explosion in Beirut, Lebanon I'm suggesting that we mention it.BlitzkriegCat (talk) 17:03, 4 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Latest comment: 2 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Osbert Lancaster
New articles (unused): Jeanne Calment (moved from February 14)
Omitted: Mount Asama; Gulf of Tonkin incident; Operation Storm; Harry Lauder; Samuel J. Tilden; Helen Thomas
Included: James Thompson (surveyor) (first appearance); MTS Oceanos (2nd appearance, last in 2012); 2006 Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Henry I of France (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Maurice Richard (first appearance; 100th birthday); Meghan, Duchess of Sussex (first appearance; 40th birthday)
Repeats: Battle of Lonato (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 225th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:14, 6 August 2021 (UTC)Reply

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Battle of Lonato; MTS Oceanos; 2006 Trincomalee massacre of NGO workers; Henry I of France; Maurice Richard; Meghan, Duchess of Sussex
Included: Battle of Evesham (7th appearance, last in 2019); Capture of Gibraltar (2nd appearance, last in 2018); 2020 Beirut explosion (first appearance); Laura Knight (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother (2nd appearance, last in 2017); David Lange (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 80th birthday)
Repeats: James Thompson (surveyor) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 19:00, 8 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

2023 notes edit

Omitted: Battle of Evesham; Capture of Gibraltar; James Thompson (surveyor); 2020 Beirut explosion; Laura Knight; Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother; David Lange
Included: Black Prince's chevauchée of 1356 (first appearance); Mount Asama/Tenmei eruption (Mount Asama: 6th appearance, last in 2020; Tenmei eruption: first appearance); Lizzie Borden (4th appearance on August 4, last in 2009, 6 total, last in 2019); Expulsion of Asians from Uganda (first appearance); 1983 Upper Voltan coup d'état (first appearance); Lady Zhen (first appearance on August 4, 2 total); Percy Bysshe Shelley (first appearance on August 4, 2 total); Osbert Lancaster (first appearance); Margarito Bautista (first appearance on August 4, 2 total)

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