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Roman Empire - Vertumnalias in honor of Vertumnus
1521 - Tenochtitlan (present day Mexico City) falls to conquistador Hernán Cortés
1704 - War of the Spanish Succession: Battle of Blenheim - English and Austrians victorious over French and Bavarians.
1923 - First major sea-going ship arrives at Gdynia, newly constructed Polish seaport.
1940 - World War II: Battle of Britain begins - The Luftwaffe launches a series of attacks on British fighter bases and radar installations.
1942 - Walt Disney's animated cartoon Bambi premiers.
1960 - Central African Republic declares independence from France
1960 - Chad declares independence from France
1961 - German Democratic Republic closes the border between the eastern and western sectors of Berlin, to frustrate its inhabitants' attempts to escape to the West.

Berlin Wall - 50 years anniversary not included .... WTF edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

It's 50 years today since the GDR started to build the Berlin wall ... and that's not included in OTD ...? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Zimmermann (talk • contribs) 08:51, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

The Berlin Wall article contains several sections that have no references and per the rules at WP:OTD is therefore ineligible. howcheng {chat} 17:28, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

International Left Handers' Day edit

Latest comment: 12 years ago2 comments2 people in discussion

Why no mention of this on OTD??? Kiwibeca (talk) 16:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

The International Lefthanders Day article is a stub and per the rules at WP:OTD is therefore ineligible. howcheng {chat} 17:28, 13 August 2011 (UTC)Reply

2012 notes edit

Latest comment: 11 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Battle of Lewisham (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Blenheim; Battle of Manila (1898); Manhattan Project; Qaumī Tarāna; Metz Accord
Included: Fall of Tenochtitlan (first appearance); 1868 Arica earthquake (first appearance); Brownsville Affair (first appearance); Hurricane Charley (2nd appearance, last in 2010); MV Sun Sea incident (first appearance)

—howcheng {chat} 11:36, 12 August 2012 (UTC)Reply

2013 notes edit

Latest comment: 10 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: 1868 Arica earthquake; Brownsville Affair; Manhattan Project; Hurricane Charley
Included: Battle of Blenheim (9th appearance, last in 2011); Battle of Manila (1898) (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Qaumī Tarāna (3rd appearance, last in 2011)
Repeats: Fall of Tenochtitlan (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); MV Sun Sea incident (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:03, 12 August 2013 (UTC)Reply

2014 notes edit

Latest comment: 9 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

Omitted: Fall of Tenochtitlan; Battle of Blenheim; Battle of Manila (1898); MV Sun Sea incident
Included: Cardinal Richelieu (first appearance); Penobscot Expedition (first appearance); 1868 Arica earthquake (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Hurricane Charley (3rd appearance, last in 2012; rescued from Ineligible; 10th anniversary)
Repeats: Qaumi Taranah (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 60th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 05:36, 12 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

Addendum: Penobscot Expedition removed for Main Page balance. —howcheng {chat} 17:11, 13 August 2014 (UTC)Reply

2015 notes edit

Latest comment: 8 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: 1868 Arica earthquake; Qaumi Taranah; Hurricane Charley
Included: Battle of Blenheim (10th appearance, last in 2013); Battle of Manila (1898) (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Manhattan Project (7th appearance, last in 2012); Marc Dutroux (first appearance)
Repeats: Cardinal Richelieu (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 02:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)Reply

2016 notes edit

Latest comment: 7 years ago4 comments2 people in discussion

New articles (ineligible): Battle of Mišar (maintenance)
Moved to Ineligible: Qaumi Taranah (maintenance); MV Sun Sea incident (maintenance)
Omitted: Battle of Blenheim; Battle of Manila (1898); Manhattan Project
Included: Fall of Tenochtitlan (3rd appearance, last in 2013); Brownsville Affair (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Battle of Shanghai (6th appearance, last in 2010; rescued from Ineligible)
Repeats: Cardinal Richelieu (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total); Marc Dutroux (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total; 20th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 11:45, 12 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Howcheng: IMO this a better crop of Philippe de Champaigne's portrait of Richelieu: File:Cardinal de Richelieu (detail).jpg. Would you consider changing it? Ham II (talk) 07:02, 13 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Ham II: I think current picture has better colors. The one you suggest is fairly muted. Of course, I have no idea which is a more accurate representation of the real painting. —howcheng {chat} 07:24, 13 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Howcheng: The alternative crop is taken from this featured picture and is closer to the colours of the real painting; cf. the National Gallery's website. Ham II (talk) 07:30, 13 August 2016 (UTC)Reply

2017 notes edit

Latest comment: 6 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Fall of Tenochtitlan; Brownsville Affair; Battle of Shanghai (maintenance); Marc Dutroux
Included: Liberius (praetorian prefect) (first appearance); 1868 Arica earthquake (3rd appearance, last in 2014); Battle of Manila (1898) (4th appearance, last in 2015); Manhattan Project (8th appearance, last in 2015; 75th anniversary); Maximus the Confessor (first appearance); George Grove (first appearance); Tigran Petrosian (first appearance)
Repeats: Cardinal Richelieu (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 07:48, 13 August 2017 (UTC)Reply

2018 notes edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Maurice (emperor) (appearing on DYK)
Omitted: Cardinal Richelieu; Battle of Manila (1898); Manhattan Project; Maximus the Confessor; Tigran Petrosian
Included: Battle of Blenheim (11th appearance, last in 2015); Opha May Johnson (first appearance; 100th anniversary); Battle of Lewisham (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Al-Muktafi (first appearance); Jules Massenet (first appearance)
Repeats: Liberius (praetorian prefect) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); 1868 Arica earthquake (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 150th anniversary); George Grove (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 15:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

1650 – Coldstream Guards edit

Latest comment: 5 years ago2 comments1 person in discussion

I see in the history of the main page errors page that the Coldstream Guards item was moved to this SA date but it's at August 23. --184.207.0.92 (talk) 06:39, 23 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

Oh. I just checked the history of SA for August 23; it was moved here because August 13 the correct date. --184.207.0.92 (talk) 06:50, 23 August 2018 (UTC)Reply

2019 notes edit

Latest comment: 4 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

New articles (unused): Yana Kasova
Omitted: Liberius (praetorian prefect); Battle of Blenheim; 1868 Arica earthquake; Opha May Johnson; Battle of Lewisham; Al-Muktafi; George Grove; Jules Massenet
Included: Maurice (emperor) (first appearance); Coldstream Guards (2nd appearance, last in 2015); Battle of Manila (1898) (5th appearance, last in 2017); Act on National Flag and Anthem (first appearance; 20th anniversary); Hurricane Charley (4th appearance, last in 2014); Maximus the Confessor (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Tigran Petrosian (2nd appearance, last in 2017); Tim Richmond (first appearance; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 22:49, 20 August 2019 (UTC)Reply

2020 notes edit

Latest comment: 3 years ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Moved to Ineligible: Liberius (praetorian prefect) (maintenance); Cardinal Richelieu (maintenance); Battle of Lewisham (maintenance); Marc Dutroux (maintenance)
New articles (ineligible): 1940 Canberra air disaster (maintenance); Bobby Clarke (maintenance); Alan Shearer (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Alfred Hitchcock
Omitted: Battle of Manila (1898); Act on National Flag and Anthem; Hurricane Charley; Maximus the Confessor; Tigran Petrosian; Tim Richmond
Included: Central African Republic (rescued from Ineligible); Battle of Blenheim (12th appearance, last in 2018); 1868 Arica earthquake (5th appearance, last in 2018); Brownsville affair (3rd appearance, last in 2016); Nawrūz (Mongol emir) (first appearance); George Grove (3rd appearance, last in 2018; 200th birthday); Frederick Sanger (first appearance)
Repeats: Maurice (emperor) (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Coldstream Guards (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 06:29, 15 August 2020 (UTC)Reply

2021 notes edit

Rescued from Ineligible (unused): Bobby Clarke
New articles (unused): José Ramón Guizado
Omitted: Coldstream Guards; Battle of Blenheim (ineligible—TFA for 2021); 1868 Arica earthquake; Brownsville affair; Nawrūz (Mongol emir); George Grove; Frederick Sanger
Included: Siege of Havana (first appearance); Opha May Johnson (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Barbed Wire Sunday (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible; blurb previously featured Berlin Wall, which remains ineligible and is making its 5th appearance, last in 2007); MV Sun Sea incident (3rd appearance, last in 2013; rescued from Ineligible); Gerard David (first appearance); Alfred Hitchcock (first appearance); Yana Kasova (first appearance; 40th birthday)
Repeats: Maurice (emperor) (3rd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

2022 notes edit

Latest comment: 1 year ago1 comment1 person in discussion

Omitted: Opha May Johnson Barbed Wire Sunday (ineligible—maintenance); MV Sun Sea incident; Gerard David; Alfred Hitchcock; Yana Kasova
Included: Cosima Wagner (3rd appearance, last in 2021; normally appears on December 24, her birth anniversary); Act on National Flag and Anthem (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Hurricane Charley/Tropical Storm Bonnie (2004) (Charley: 5th appearance, last in 2019; Bonnie: first appearance); Jules Massenet (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 100th anniversary); Frederick Sanger (2nd appearance, last in 2020); Tigran Petrosian (3rd appearance, last in 2019)
Repeats: Maurice (emperor) (4th consecutive appearance, 4 total); Siege of Havana (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:59, 16 August 2022 (UTC)Reply

2023 rationale edit

Latest comment: 9 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion

The 1779 fact has multiple {cn} tags so I avoided adding it.
There is an overwhelming number of sea-related facts.
I chose the 2010 fact over Opha May Johnson, due to both being about marines and another sea incident.
Good mix of b/d with anniversaries!

Heart ^(talk) 15:49, 1 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

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