Wikipedia talk:Graphics Lab

Graphics Lab

The Graphics Lab is a project to improve the graphical content of the Wikimedia projects. Requests for image improvements can be added to the workshop pages: Illustrations, Photographs and Maps. For questions or suggestions one can use the talk pages: Talk:Graphics Lab, Talk:Illustrations, Talk:Photographs and Talk:Maps.
This specific page is the main, central discussion page for the entire graphics lab. Any comments or questions about the lab may be made here. Note that requests for image improvement, etc. do not belong here but should go on one of the main requests pages

Audio + video lab?

Are there labs for multimedia? – SJ + 02:25, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

SVG film posters

I've started a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film#SVG_film_posters regarding the potential for using SVG for film/movie posters. I'm soliciting feedback on an image I've already uploaded with an eye towards doing more if the example proves to be acceptable/popular. Please reply at the discussion there. Thank you! —Locke Cole • t • c 04:25, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Responsibility for replacing images in articles?

Hello everyone. I vectorised and , and they now exist as SVG versions in and . I specifically asked for the person requesting conversion to replace the images in the appropriate articles. However, this didn't happen, the request was just archived without further action. This left me with the situation that I did work to improve Wikipedia, but it didn't actually improve Wikipedia; all articles still had the old PNG files. Not good. So I just spent the last hour or so going through dozens of Wikipedias and manually replacing these. But even after this extemely tedious work, File:Flag of Vladimir.png is still in use in over 200 articles, and File:Coat_of_Arms_of_Vladimir_(Vladimir_oblast).png in about 20 articles. And then, while doing the replacement, I found two more PNG files, and (yes these are different files, with basically identical content), which together are in use in another 200 or so articles.

I am really exhausted (I am not a WP:GNOME!) and I can't continue. I am writing not because I want help, but because I am looking for a general solution to this problem. Who is responsible for replacing inferior images after the Graphics Lab created a superior version? The requester? The artist? Noone? This lack of a proper workflow really frustrates me and already does lessen my willingness to work on the Graphics Lab. Is there a solution? I am most certainly not the first in this situation. Do people just not care? --Lommes (talk) 14:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Colleague, hello! Unfortunately I couldn't provide the template {{resolved}} as the bot archived the request very quickly. The images have only replaced those that were added to the Wikidata service under a special article identifier. Where PNG was left locally, it is really, very long and tedious to replace it. I didn’t find a quick solution to this nuance either, and I don’t think it’s worth fooling around and manually changing pictures everywhere. Here I also want to thank you for your responsiveness and acceptable vector images, since the archive is not recommended to be edited. These files are not vectorized and were considered at a different historical stage. They should not be associated with and accordingly with . – ArtSmir (talk) 18:56, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Hey, ArtSmir, you write "I don’t think it’s worth fooling around and manually changing pictures everywhere". That is a legitimate opinion, but if this is the consensus, I don't think its worth (for me) creating SVG replacements in the first place. I hate doing a bad or incomplete job, then i much prefer not doing it. --Lommes (talk) 14:42, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

 Done. completed manually ArtSmir (talk) 01:45, 17 November 2022 (UTC)

References

• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&offset=Flag_of_Vladimir.png%7Cnowiki%7C1907067&limit=500&target=Flag+of+Vladimir.png
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&limit=50&from=Coat%20of%20Arms%20of%20Vladimir%20(Vladimir%20oblast).png%7Cplwiki%7C2695191&target=Coat%20of%20Arms%20of%20Vladimir%20(Vladimir%20oblast).png
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:GlobalUsage&limit=50&from=Vladimir_COA_%281781%29.png%7Cruwiki%7C7047736&target=Vladimir+COA+%281781%29.png
• https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:GlobalUsage/Vladimir_COA_(1781)_(larger).png

Lommes (talk) 14:31, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Gallup data

Hello! I'm here as part of my work for Beutler Ink, on behalf of our client, Gallup, Inc. Gallup is interested in making its polling data more accessible to Wikipedia for editors to use. There are quite a few graphics in Category:Gallup polls at Wikimedia Commons already, a few of which are images the company recently donated. My question for editors here is: are these the sorts of graphics that editors are looking for, and is there a better way for Gallup to make its data available? I'm asking here because I thought graphists might find the question interesting, and have insights into what would be most helpful.

Gallup isn't looking to place graphics in any specific articles, but they have a lot of polling data and are hoping to collaborate with the Wikipedia community. Cheers! BINK Robin (talk) 16:37, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Hi @BINK Robin, it might also be worth putting this on Wp:WPE&R, but my thoughts:

It's great that Gallup are seeking to contribute data. I'm not sure how you're proposing such data is shared. If you want it to solely be accessible to Wikimedia editors, then allowing it to be accessed from The Wikipedia Library is the best option. However, this requires a portal or system for extracting such data to already exist.

Election data is already used a lot: a nice example are the charts on Opinion polling for the next United Kingdom general election with Ralbegen's lovely charts (though it seems Gallup doesn't do a lot of UK polling). The problem is that, if some of this data is not already publicly available, it may fail WP:V. It would be great if you had some further details on what Gallup is considering. – Isochrone (T) 21:14, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

@Isochrone These are great questions. Gallup's data is all publicly available on their website, so I don't think the Library would be needed. It's more a question of how to make that data easiest for interested editors to find and use. I've been helping them with the process of donating some graphics, but I wonder if it would be more helpful to batch upload some bulk data sets somewhere? BINK Robin (talk) 16:25, 6 November 2023 (UTC)