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"Lips Are Movin" is a song by American singer-songwriter Meghan Trainor (pictured) from her debut major-label studio album Title (2015). Trainor wrote the song with its producer Kevin Kadish. Epic Records released it as the album's second single on October 21, 2014. A doo-wop and pop song, "Lips Are Movin" was inspired by Trainor's conflict with her label but critics interpreted it as a song about leaving a cheating significant other. They compared it to "All About That Bass" (2014); some found it catchy while others criticized its lyrics. "Lips Are Movin" peaked at number four on the Billboard Hot 100 and was certified 4× Platinum in the US. The song reached the top 10 in countries including Australia and Canada, where it received multi-platinum certifications. Philip Andelman directed its music video, the first-ever created entirely by social media influencers, portraying behind-the-scenes events of a video shoot. Trainor performed the song on television shows and her concert tours. (Full article...)

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Comments from SNUGGUMS Moved from Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Lips Are Movin/archive3 (t · c) buidhe 14:40, 14 March 2021 (UTC) Only listing 5 nations this track charted at number 10 or higher within the lead seems incomplete, even when factoring in certifications. Have to disagree with you on this... The lead is meant to capture what is notable of a song, and in this case, even if it is a successful single in terms of commercial performance, it shouldn't be prioritized over other aspects i.e. music, lyrics, and critical reviews (which are arguably much more important imo). Listing a few countries where the song was particularly successful should suffice, and especially since we already have a table listing each-and-every chart position. HĐ (talk) 03:43, 9 March 2021 (UTC) I did do some research on what's the usual 411 on this. And it seems it is preferred not to mention a lot of markets in the lead on song FAs (e.g. "Style", "Diamonds", "Single Ladies", etc.) Even if this was changed to include just countries where it went top 5, that would still make 11 of them. 11 doesn't sound so bad. You could perhaps make room for those by dropping certifications from the lead. If viewers don't read any subsequent text, then just mentioning a total of 5 countries might leave them with an impression they were the only places where it made that range. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC) The sentence: "It reached the top five on charts in Australia, Czech Republic, Ireland, New Zealand, Poland, Scotland, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, the United Kingdom, and Venezuela" bombards the reader with too much information too quickly, and does not reflect the markets it achieved the most success in as accurately as certifications do in my opinion. It also looks a bit WP:OL so I have come up with a wording tweak to fix this problem instead: among others.--NØ 15:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC) "major-label debut studio album"..... beating around the bush, are we? Title is overall Meghan's fourth album regardless of how Epic Records gave a giant middle finger to the three albums she made prior to signing with them by pulling them from circulation and wrongfully pretending those never existed/don't count for anything. Sources overwhelmingly refer to Title as Trainor's debut and none refer to it as her fourth album. Likewise, sources refer to Thank You as her sophomore (not her fifth) and Treat Myself as her third (not sixth). Should I add a footnote addressing this like the one at Meghan Trainor? Sure, we can mention within a footnote how there were other albums made beforehand. WP:CALC allows for routine calculations like how 1+3=4. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC) Added the footnote.--NØ 15:47, 9 March 2021 (UTC) Out of curiosity, is it known when specifically between June and October 2014 that this track was written and recorded? Sometime between September 9 (The EP's release date) and mid-October. It might be worth adding how Kadish is open to the interpretation of this being about a partner even directed towards her label Added. "Chart performance" looks incomplete without the nations it peaked below 10 (and also neglects to mention South Africa even when it made that range). At the very least, I'd add each place it made the top 30. Previous list was only territories where it made top 5. I have now expanded it to the top 30, though. No comments from critics on her live performances? There were none. Under "Weekly charts", "(2014–15)" should be "(2014–2015)" when four digits are preferred for years as more complete and professional-looking Amended. Not sure whether "SongwriterUniverse" should be italicized, but it seems trustworthy either way, and I don't have doubts on the credibility for any other citation used. Removed the italics. Get through these, and it should be FA-material. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 00:39, 9 March 2021 (UTC) Many thanks for your comments, SNUGGUMS. I have made the changes and replied above.--NØ 08:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC) My pleasure, and I've given a couple responses. SNUGGUMS (talk / edits) 14:10, 9 March 2021 (UTC)