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Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ideas/Archive 5

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2019 initiative: Suffrage

We talked about suffrage on our main talkpage and I wonder if there's any enthusiasm for having a "year of suffrage" just like we did a "year of science" a couple of years ago? Different organizations will be doing different events in 2019 and we could be supportive of all of that. Also, maybe we could really make an impact on all things suffrage if we have a year to do it. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:47, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Definitely interested in it! SusunW (talk) 16:52, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Changing name to reflect what was agreed upon on WiR talkpage. Note this event will last all year. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:46, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
  • Women's suffrage in Europe: see [1]--Ipigott (talk) 10:55, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
I'd like to make this a year-long campaign. (Kind of like 1 day 1 woman, but each month focus on the different countries and the women involved). It wasn't limited to Europe, as also changes happened in Asia and Africa. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

January 2019

Geofocus: Caucasus

I am seeing that there is a proposal that the geofocus of the month of November be about Ireland. I think it is not entirely correct because it is not good to focus only on one country and, being an English speaking country, has many biographies in this Wikipedia. What do you think if we focus on the three countries of the Caucasus and the territories with sovereignty discussed? I apologize if it seems I'm insisting, but I like to treat less popular countries. A tender greeting. Alsoriano97 (talk) 17:40, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

  • Support Those countries are still underrepresented on the English Wikipedia. @Alsoriano97: Excellent suggestion. — Mr. Guye (talk) (contribs)  18:46, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
As per the discussion in December, am moving this here. SusunW (talk) 21:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Women of War & Peace

Women of War & Peace using "Category/People associated with war". Also, January is National Holocaust Month, so it ties in with this theme. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:37, 27 September 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Military is still reasonably well stocked from the April 2018 event. If we go with this option I will try to add some more - Dumelow (talk) 19:13, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
Plus we'd need more Wikidata lists such Anti-war activists (Q7044167), to include all the subcategories of Category:Anti-war activists. BTW, Gamaliel knows how to append the SPARQL query to include subcategories.
The WW1 activists for peace were just finding their own end to war 100 years ago next year. Nice theme. Victuallers (talk) 10:13, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Anti-war activists are Q16323111, not Q7044167, which is for Category:Anti-war activists and of no use in drawing-up redlists. Q16323111 is a constituent of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Activists (length 1062 rows). Only 21 of those rows denote women with occupation=peace activist. So thin pickings. If you can come up with some suggestions for occupation values (or other property/value combinations) then we can make progress with constructing a wikidata redlist. --Tagishsimon (talk) 18:33, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Tagishsimon Pacifists/pacifism[2]? SusunW (talk) 22:15, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
That gets us 3 for the movement and 9 for pacifism; presuming no overlap, we're up to 33 people. Time to dig into the women of war, I fear. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Here are the peaceniks - Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Women of war and peace. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:29, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
~311 warriors added. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Tagishsimon The irony that war is celebrated more than diplomacy is never lost on me. Thank you for trying. Any chance diplomat [3] yields a few more? SusunW (talk) 23:07, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Lots of them. I've put them between the pacifists & the guerrillas; might work. --Tagishsimon (talk) 23:19, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Tagishsimon LOL! perfect. SusunW (talk) 23:20, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Tagishsimon Are there any for Q7931980? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:34, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Suprisingly few. But chasing that lead, I've added resistance fighters and French resistance fighters, Righteous Among the Nations awardees, and the very few Holocaust victims and survivors I can find ... this probably gives us another 500 names. fwiw, because I've created 5 discrete tables & transcluded them into a single page, there will be duplicates between the 5 tables; equally, all instances will turn blue at the same time, so no harm done. --Tagishsimon (talk) 03:02, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Fantastic, Tagishsimon. Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:36, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tagishsimon, I was attempting to add the new lists you created to our Redlist Index but encountered some issues and wondered if you could review them. Adding Megalibrarygirl as her opinion would be valuable in this case. --Rosiestep (talk) 12:58, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

  • I added them to the Redlist Index.
  • I think they need to be either re-named to match our naming convention; or maybe merged and renamed. If merged and renamed, see Category:People of the Holocaust for ideas.
@Rosiestep: Sigh. You want me to do the job properly? #smh. Okay. I've consolidated diplomat, war and peace so that we have only a single page for each, transcluded in the Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Women of war and peace list, and listed on the Redlist page; and including any new code & values which was found in the 'Women of war and peace' lists. I've marked the deprecated pages for deletion, having removed them as links from the redlist page.
I've consolidated Holocaust and Righteous into a single list, again transcluded into the 'Women of war and peace' list, and listed on the redlist page. In view of the importance of The Holocaust, it would be good for you to check the wording of a) the listing in Special focus areas and within Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Holocaust and Righteous - including the article title. And, I guess, the same within Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Women of war and peace. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:37, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, Tagishsimon, and I apologize for the hassle factor. #appreciateyou --Rosiestep (talk) 21:42, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Someone has to keep us right, Rosiestep. :) --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:46, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I found this article last night, which includes some women in red who may not be on the red lists yet. Women at the Hague. It's from the 1915 peace congress in Belgium.Moira Paul (talk) 21:09, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Moira Paul Thanks - the redlink listed women are now on the wikidata redlist, and the blue-listed women have had some more attributes added to their record. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:03, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

Play!

I just saw this on FB: "The Wiki Loves Africa 2019 theme is PLAY! This theme encompasses a host of approaches and is intentionally open to interpretation. The theme Play! encourages the submission of visual representations of joyful and serious games, sport, and recreation in the form of board or mental games, physical fun or contests, playful interactions, theatrical and musical performances, etc." I like the idea as it can be a "play on words" (pardon the pun). We could have our more technically-abled members create some additional Wikidata redlists, e.g. we have playwrights, but could add lists such as Game artists (Q7411467), People in the games industry (Q8755689), Game designers (Q12015651), and maybe all the ball sportswomen (baseball, softball, etc.). I'm sure there are additional depictions of Play! that others could suggest. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:43, 31 October 2018 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: I like the theme! Play can also work as playing an instrument ;) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:45, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
Yes please! I'm thinking of the urban reform-minded women who worked to build public playgrounds, municipal orchestras, amateur sports leagues... Penny Richards (talk) 02:45, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
I wonder if WikiLovesWomen would join us - given the Africa/Women theme? I'll tweet them Victuallers (talk) 10:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Hi there ! Saw the tweet :) So yes, given that I am involved in both projects (Wiki Loves Women and Wiki Loves Africa), I think it would be great to do something all together in Feb. This said, I am participate in les sans pagEs Mediterranée and I started a little brainstorming on how I would make the goals of those coincide in Jan-Feb during the photo contest. I was thinking initially of having a photowalk that could be both related to women and to play. But so far, I have not seen an obvious goal... for a photowalk in Marseille on that topic. Need to explore more. If so, I would propose a photo walk in January and an upload meet in February. But I first need to find the right spot to document.
On the other hand, I think Rosie proposition is brilliant. And this for two reasons. First I have this first Wikipedia:WikiProject Wiki Loves Women/Occupations which was on the Cinema topic. It has not proved hugely successful, but it worked with some communities. The set-up is already built up. It can be reused for other professional categories. The main "work" to do for that to happen is to identify a list of professional activities related to play. The way I did it for cinema was to ... well... do a query to download all professional entries and then go through the entire list (it is actually not hugely long...) and keep only those entries that were cinema related. Then collect all Q codes and there you go. I could very well imagine a similar list related to Game. It would be the opportunity to expand the translation of items in WikiData related to that theme. Additional RedList related to those themes would be awesome additions to fuel ideas of what to translate and expand.
The second idea it brings to my mind is that talk with Sandra, from the structured data WMF team. We are thinking of building up a pilot game-like tool to help 1) add structured data description to photos uploaded during WLA past and current editions 2) add structured data "identifiers" (such as "People in the games industry", or "game designers", or "sportswomen" or "video game" etc.) and 3) provides a feedback that helps to quickly identify the best images in say WLA 2019 in Mali. This would also be greatly improved by a better understanding of Wikidata categories related to our themes, which can be used as initial documentation. Well, I am really not sure I am clear here... if someone is interested, do not hesitate to ping me so that we can further discuss on skype maybe.
I'd love to see more redlists related to play... Anthere (talk)

Firming up for January

Given that Suffrage is to be a focus for the whole year (no doubt with a special page), we now have Women of War and Peace, Play! and geofocus on the Caucasus. Can we keep to these or are there any other suggestions?--Ipigott (talk) 17:09, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm good with those Ipigott. SusunW (talk) 17:37, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Sounds like a great January lineup. Penny Richards (talk) 18:01, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Agree! Great lineup for January. I'd be glad to MassMessage if someone wants to start on the event pages? P.S. Seems like @Ipigott and Megalibrarygirl have done the heavy-lifting for the last several months creating our event pages. Would someone else be interested/available to give it a go? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:38, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
I don't mind doing them, Rosiestep! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 14:04, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
Glad to hear it, Megalibrarygirl!! :) --Rosiestep (talk) 17:47, 19 December 2018 (UTC)

February 2019

Black women

Considering the year long focus on Suffrage and this tweet, we could have a list of Black Suffragists? ☕ Antiqueight chatter 23:01, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Social Workers

From this discussion: [4] SusunW (talk) 22:13, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

@Ser Amantio di Nicolao, SusunW, GreenMeansGo, and Megalibrarygirl (you all contributed to the conversation SusunW links to), Will we be focusing on "social workers" in particular vs. "women + social work" in general? The category, Category:Social work includes "social workers" (Category:Social workers), and "social justice" people (Category:Social justice). Social justice could include reformers, activists, etc. Is "social work" too broad? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Seems likely Category:Social justice is simply misplaced within Category:Social work. Social work isn't uniquely central to issues surrounding things hunger or unemployment, any more (perhaps somewhat less) than something like economics is, even though the work of social workers may be related to these issues more-or-less depending on practice area. Besides that, the difference between social work and women+social work is likely to be minor. It is a highly gendered field, and even more so historically. GMGtalk 16:09, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
Social workers are people we haven't specifically covered in the past, whereas clearly activists we have. But, I think it can encompass all of them. Anyone likely to have contributed to social development. SusunW (talk) 16:17, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
I like the idea of doing social workers. There's quite a few we can work on. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:20, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
As this wasn't included in the November invitation, shall we move it to another month? It still seems like a good topic. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 23:41, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Maybe we move it to January? SusunW (talk) 17:04, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

Classicists

Given the discussions on the main WiR page, can we fit this in in February, perhaps as a geofocus on the "Ancient World" targeting female figures from ancient history as well as classicists, sinologists and orientalists.--Ipigott (talk) 16:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Ipigott,  . --Rosiestep (talk) 17:11, 15 December 2018 (UTC)

Firming up for February

@Rosiestep, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, and Victuallers: There's quite a lot to choose from here. Any preferences? And what about the GeoFocus?--Ipigott (talk) 17:28, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

Ipigott My 2 cents for whatever it is worth. We did back to back STEM and academics in September and October, and we already have Classicists on the board as the geofocus and academic focus. To my mind, no need to replicate STEM so soon. Folks can still write STEM topics, obviously, even if it isn't a focus. Black women is an annual event for Black History Month and I think it is important. Social workers have been booted already twice and I personally would not like that to happen again, as we have never had a focus specifically on that field which includes so many women. We have done women in film several times, most recent in July last year. I guess it depends if we want 3 or 4 events this month, but with suffrage and 1day1woman, as on-going events, that means monitoring a lot of events. SusunW (talk) 18:12, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, and Victuallers: - I'm supportive of SusunW's thinking -- Classicists (Geofocus); Black women (annual event); Social workers (new to us); Suffrage (ongoing); 1day1woman (ongoing) -- but if the consensus is to include something else, fine by me. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:20, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
OK. I'll put something together on that basis. It'll be good to have Social workers as something new - so I suggest #109 Social workers, #110 Black women and #111 Geofocus Ancient World.--Ipigott (talk) 20:50, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
Good. Discussion on Twitter about hidden women Black suffrage leaders so this is timely. Victuallers (talk) 11:08, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep, SusunW, and Victuallers: Thank you, Ipigott, I think those are all good for this month. Would you all like to me to put together the pages today? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:32, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep, SusunW, Victuallers, and Ipigott: I made the pages and will tweak a little more later. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 22:46, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
Great job and thanks for that, Megalibrarygirl. I'll get started on the invite. Do we want to include an image on the invite and/or one of more "news" items, e.g. a link to the "socialites" post Jimmy started? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, and Victuallers: Here's a link to the invite. Please doublecheck the links and image. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: I LOVE the invite!!!! :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Megalibrarygirl Rosiestep: I think everything is OK now. Tagishsimon: For our Ancient World priority, I was wondering whether you could create a Wikidata redlist combining Egyptologists (Q1350189), sinologists (Q15255771), indologists (Q18524037) and orientalists (Q1731155). At the moment we only have clacissists.--Ipigott (talk) 09:29, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
ESIO; can be moved to rename as you like. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:41, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon, thank you for creating the redlist. @Megalibrarygirl and Jane023:, to stay in alignment with Wikidata ontologies, one option would be to rename this ESIO list as: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Scholars of area studies (d:Q17135920 scholar of area studies). What do you think? If you agree with this idea, would we want to add others (see Category:Scholars by region of area studies) in addition to the Egyptologists/Sinologists/Indologists/Orientalists who are currently on the list? --Rosiestep (talk) 20:04, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Worth looking at the occupations listed at the top of the Wikipedia:Women's Classical Committee/Wikidata redlist list for some more suggestions. --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:30, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon: Thanks for putting together a great list. Just what we need. As for the name, I'm not too keen on area studies as that also covers more recent interests. How about "Scholars of the ancient world".--Ipigott (talk) 07:43, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
 
occupation tree?

On Wikidata we can create occupations as subclasses of other occupations, but just as with writers, I think the top tracking category should also be used as occupation. I think for any push here you need to specify the occupations to be used on associated items (if they don't exist yet) and somehow fit them into the tree. I think we would see a lot more writers on Wikidata if we created such a tree and cleaned up the various women items on Wikidata now missing the writer occupation. Jane (talk) 08:32, 27 January 2019 (UTC)

@Tagishsimon and Ipigott: What about splitting them into 4 different redlists to keep things organized correctly, e.g. sot that the newly-created articles are tagged with the applicable Wikipiedia category, which will then get them into the applicable Wikidata category? @Megalibrarygirl and Jane023:, as our experts on this matter, your comments, suggestions and feedback welcomed and appreciated. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:57, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

OK there are two parts to a person's occupation: what they do, and what it's called by their employer. So e.g. a person might be called a scholar of area studies, but in real life, they never say that is their occupation unless they are talking to other academics. In real life they say what they do. On the list of egyptoloigists, it says "An Egyptologist is any archaeologist, historian, linguist, or art historian who specializes in Egyptology, the scientific study of Ancient Egypt and its antiquities. Demotists are Egyptologists who specialize in the study of the Demotic language and field of Demotic Studies. Although a practitioner of the disciplined study of Ancient Egypt and Egyptian antiquities is an "Egyptologist", the field of Egyptology is not exclusive to such practitioners." In the context of this discussion on Wikidata I would give them all P106=writer. Next, choose one of the 4 main occupations of archaeologist, historian, linguist, or art historian, and put the area of expertise into "field of work": P101. I am guessing that "egyptologist" is itself actually too specific for P106. Jane (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, Jane023, but waiting on recommendation from you and Megalibrarygirl regarding the naming issue of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/ESIO? If rename, what's the best new name; vs. split it up into 4 lists?. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:33, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Ah sorry. From experience (which is limited to the Netherlands) I know that being as specific as possible helps people stay motivated and willing to "finish" something. So yes, 4 lists for each specific target. No abbreviations, but let people navigate the lists through google or wikipedia search (so e.g. the word Egyptologist can be on all four lists, and each list links the other 3 lists, etc). Increasing findability while staying specific is key (and not easy). Jane (talk) 21:05, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
I'll produce a set of lists. As for the discussion on occupation, I kinda agree with Jane, but P106=writer doesn't work for me. I'd be more inclined towards P106=Historian; and then yes, field of work=Egyptology. But there are other choices; P106=Academic, for instance. I'm not sure we'll ever come up with a completely satisfactory occuption ontology; it's like a balloon - squeeze it in one place and it bulges in another. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:22, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: I must say I think we might well be complicating things by working on "naming conventions" and developing four separate lists. As I said above, I thought the ESIO listing was exactly what we needed for our focus on the Ancient World. To assist those interested in the four occupations covered, I listed each one separately in the Red List Index, linking to ESIO. I thought that more or less took care of the problem. I hope ESIO can be maintained as such as many of those (like me) interested in redlinked sinologists, for example, would no doubt also be interested in orientalists, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 09:03, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
I apologize, Ipigott; I didn't mean to be persnickety. I have no issue with the list on the event page; I think it is suitable. My attention regarding the name was actually focused on placement within the Redlist Index. If we could agree that all 4 of these "occupations" are X (Historians? Area study scholars? Ancient World scholars? Something else?), then the 4 separate lists could be sub-bulleted underneath the broader title (vs. alpha within the section on occupations). I'll let it go. :) --Rosiestep (talk) 17:29, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Hi Rosiestep. Yesterday was crazy. Sorry I didn't get back to you. I'm in agreement with Jane023. I'm always in the findability camp. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:50, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

March 2019

Art+Feminism

  • Our annual Art+Feminism event, to include:

Dug up a couple of sources, although one doesn't quite exist just yet: "A New Illustrated Database for Women Artists Spans the 15th to 19th Centuries" talks about A Space of Their Own, from Indiana University Bloomington. Don't have a link to it yet, but it's a good space to keep an eye on; hopefully there will be something available come March.

The same article mentions a couple of other databases, which in the interests of completeness I'll add here:

Definitely some useful material to pursue. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 17:35, 6 November 2018 (UTC)

There is also the Wikisource, Women in the Fine Arts: From the Seventh Century B.C. to the Twentieth Century A.D. - Heavy on the 19th century. WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 03:55, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
I've created Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/112. I used the redlists from 2018, but probably additional ones have been created since then, so please do add. I know that Comics was mentioned above, LadiesMakingComics; perhaps you can add that list? --Rosiestep (talk) 20:50, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
For women illustrators generally, there's Women Who Draw, and for other marginalized groups that you can filter for women, there's the Cartoonists of Color Database and the Queer Cartoonists database. Aside from those, I've been going into Mix'n'Match and creating new Wikidata items from the Lambiek catalog that will then show up on User:Spinster/Comics creators from Lambiek Comiclopedia. I also spent most of last month running Queries for mangaka and making sure they all at least had English labels (though Japanese has way more unisex names than English, so I don't know how much heuristic value that will add).
There's still like 1550 ungendered mangaka in Wikidata, so anybody who could help with that would be great, since mangaka do show up on the WiR Cartoonists list. Google Translate isn't a big help because Japanese doesn't do gendered pronouns, but if you see "女性。" in the first line or so of an article, it's a woman (and if you see "男性。" it's definitely a man, but the articles don't always say). You can also cross-ref with Baka-Updates Manga, which is in English, but they also don't always have the info. LadiesMakingComics (talk) 22:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus: Francophone

I don't think we have ever done a Francophone focus, but March is when French cultures celebrate their language/culture. Lots of countries globally to choose from, which hopefully will have broad appeal, i.e. Algeria, Belgium, Benin, Burkina Faso, Burundi, Cameroon, Central African Republic, Chad, Comoros, Côte, d'Ivoire, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Djibouti, Equatorial Guinea, France, French Guiana, French Polynesia, Gabon, Guadeloupe, Guinea, Haiti, Luxembourg, Madagascar, Mali, Martinique, Mauritius, Monaco, Morocco, New Caledonia, Niger, Quebec (Canada), Republic of the Congo, Réunion, Rwanda, Senegal, Seychelles, Switzerland, Togo, Tunisia, and Vanuatu. SusunW (talk) 15:22, 22 November 2018 (UTC)

@LesSansPages are one of our besties. I'll ask them to comment. Finding sources in English are tricky in Francophone countries (Obvs) so translation would be a resource. Victuallers (talk) 10:20, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
For I... I have agreed to host an LSP edit-a-thon in my city university library on March 8th. But we have not chosen the angle of action yet. Open to propositions. We will have the books of the library obviously. But our community is tiny in Marseille so a good part of the potential participants will be newbies. It may be that the best approach is translations of already existing articles and perhaps working on citations.
You should probably also raise the issue with WikiFranca. This is a telegram channel. I'll drop a note there. Anthere (talk)
I really like the idea of a Francophone focus! Sounds like a good choice for March. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:54, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

International Women’s Day names

I've been clearing out old bookmarks and I found two links that have a list of people related to International Women’s Day with a focus on technology (not all of these women are in STEM, but technology plays a part). I was wondering if we should make a list of names that were featured in International Women's Day news stories but don't have an article yet. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:56, 24 September 2018 (UTC)

Pinging Megalibrarygirl as she's the guru about redlists. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:53, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Because the theme is #BalanceforBetter, how about countries, occupations,… that have the worst imbalance in WP or the world. There are some stats available on WP. I know that this is the overall focus of WiR, but this would spotlight the biggest problems. StrayBolt (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep and MrLinkinPark333: I like the idea of creating the list as "BalanceforBetter" and using StrayBolt's idea for organization within the list. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 03:08, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@Megalibrarygirl: That sounds interesting. Would STEM/technology be part of a imbalnace on Wikipedia? If so, the above links could be used as a launch pad of sort on the WIR page for this monthly contest. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:22, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333: I would say so. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:22, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333:, I've reviewed the two links from your above post of 24 September 2018. I suggest the following: Create a redlist for Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/IWD 2019. Put the women's names on that list, in subsections named after the website honoring the particular group, e.g. BBC.com and Medium.com. I assume there are other websites out there with other lists of women they are honoring for IWD 2019, e.g. maybe UNESCO, etc. Because the redlist you are creating will be a "crowd-sourced" list, others could add to it. We should start the Women in Red public-facing Twitter campaign as soon as you've completed your work on the redlist, asking our Twitter followers to provide links to other lists of women being honored during IWD 2019 (or IWHM 2019); and we could include the hashtag you mention, #BalanceforBetter, which is being used by yet another website, internationalwomensday.com. As the 2 lists you've provided are about women in tech, I'd also add the women's names to the crowd-sourced Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Technology redlist, with a link to the BBC or Medium website as a reference. Lastly, remember to add the redlist to our Redlist Index page; and to add the redlist to the redlists section of our #112 meetup page. While these are my suggestions, do you think this is the right approach, Megalibrarygirl, or would you suggest something else? --Rosiestep (talk) 19:00, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Adding Ipigott as you are part of the convo in the below section. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Adding John Cummings as you are the UNESCO Wikimedian in Residence. Is the UN/UNESCO doing something for IWD 2019 and/or have they created a list of women being honored for IWD 2019? Note, I spoke with some editors from India who are doing a UN-type event in March, but I'm not sure if it's India-specific, or global. Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:15, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: Well, my mindset is a whole lot different now than last year. I can't guarantee the people in my links above are notable. It was just an idea I had, plus I wasn't the one who suggested the #balanceforbetter hashtag. I could incorporate those links into the main page if someone were to make it as an inspiration link, but not have to be done. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:10, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

Hi all (@Rosiestep:, Ipigott sorry for the late reply. Yes UNESCO is running a small number of events and we are also sourcing lists of women from government delegations which I'm adding to Wikidata so it doesn't get lost. I know that Wikimedia Sweden is running a much larger number of events with Swedish Embassies which we are inviting UN staff to participate in. For reference Sarah who ran WikiGap at WMSE has left and Mia is now running it (mia.jacobsson@wikimedia.se). John Cummings (talk) 14:32, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, John Cummings. I'll reach out to Mia. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
No problem (@Rosiestep:, do you know anyone in Nairobi who could run a workshop? John Cummings (talk) 19:25, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
John Cummings, Maybe check with Felix? --Rosiestep (talk) 03:06, 20 February 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for March

@Ipigott, Victuallers, SusunW, and Megalibrarygirl: I'd like to get the invite out as soon as we finalize March events so people know sooner rather than later what we're doing for Women's History Month. Besides the A+F one, how would like to proceed? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:55, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Seems to me the 3 proposals are sufficiently diverse, especially as we still have suffrage as an on-going focus. Of course, that will depend on if a list can be made of missing honorees of IWD. As always, I will be focusing on activists as I can, with maybe an artist or architect thrown in for good measure. SusunW (talk) 00:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
I see from the draft Women's History Month page, "we are holding just this one virtual editathon" in March. I was a bit disappointed to see we are no longer doing a geofocus on French speakers as Susun had suggested. Maybe we could still do both? Quite by accident, for the last few days I seem to have been bogged down on French-speaking women and women's organizations from Belgium. I was amazed to see how little attention had been given to them on the English wiki.--Ipigott (talk) 10:59, 15 February 2019 (UTC) Perhaps I need to ping Rosie on this.--Ipigott (talk) 16:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
Ipigott - Oops. I used the March 2018 meetup page as the basis for creating the March 2019 page. I overlooked that sentence and maybe I missed something else, too? Thanks in advance for fixing/improving whatever you notice. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: The francophone countries are in the March geofocus slot still (on the ideas list and wasn't moved over), so I thought that was going to be part as well? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 03:23, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333, Ipigott, SusunW, Victuallers, and Megalibrarygirl: - I'd be glad to create a Francophone Geofocus meetup page. Any others? #BalanceforBetter? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:36, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: I think we could add #BalanceforBetter to the March initiative if we put together a redlist. What do you think, MrLinkinPark333? The page looks good, Ipigott :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 19:25, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good, @Megalibrarygirl and MrLinkinPark333:. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

I've created meetup pages #112 and #113. Please review them... fix things... add things.. make improvements: --Rosiestep (talk) 21:25, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

@Ipigott, Victuallers, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, and MrLinkinPark333: I've created a draft Invite for March. Please review, fix, add, improve it. Thanks! --Rosiestep (talk) 22:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Rosiestep: I've checked through everything and it all seems fine to me. If we use the French "Francophone" rather than "French-speaking" for our #113, then I think we need to include the main Francophonie member countries. I've added pertinent WD redlinks to the list. Maybe it would be useful to include a word on Francophonie and its members in the introduction. I see you have included some (but not all) of the French overseas territories in the WD lists, most still redlinked. I have a feeling we've tried some of them in the past and obtained zero results. Maybe Tagishsimon would like to check them out again. The problem is that most of the inhabitants list their nationality as French.
Listeria is dead until circa 26 February 2019, because the wikimedia labs toolsdb has collapsed and is being rebuilt, slowly, in a different form. So, no WD redlists can be updated right now (although I will check the code in the lists). It's a bit of a service management fail on the part of the foundation. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:16, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Ipigott, I agree with both of your suggestions. (a) Someone needs to assure that the main Francophonie member countries are included; if you look at my edit summary, you'll see I only included the countries/territories which SusunW mentions in this (March 2019) section. Plus: someone needs to expand the introductory section. As for the Wikidata lists which are currently redlinks, not sure what's the best thing to do; looking to this group for consensus on that. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:50, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
  Done--Ipigott (talk) 16:10, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Wow, that'sa bummer about Lysteria being out of commission. Hope they get it up quickly and maybe there will be time to add them after February 26. For the French Caribbean, there are these, maybe we just do one list?
If we are making a redlist, others of potential interest in the FR wiki from Matinique include: Sabine Andrivon-Milton, Suzanne Dracius, Nicole Gnesotto, Perle Lama, Gaël Octavia, Manon Tardon, Joëlle Verdol.--Ipigott (talk) 08:02, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
And from Guadeloupe: Josette Fallope, Jane Fostin, Michèle Lacrosil, Michèle Montantin.--Ipigott (talk) 08:10, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
  • also there are Biographies (in French) of each of the women inducted as Members of Honor into the Women's Union of Martinique in this booklet [16] SusunW (talk) 17:02, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: I'm a bit confused about what you want to do with #BalanceforBetter. It looks to me as if it is already very much in line with our A+F plans. Can't we just add names to our existing lists? On the other hand, it might be useful to tweet something about our March plans on #BalanceforBetter. Maybe Victuallers could put something together.--Ipigott (talk) 10:38, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: it's just another useful redlist. We can use it anywhere. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:43, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: I'm afraid I haven't been able to find the redlink. Can you provide a link?--Ipigott (talk) 07:45, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Sure will Ian. Maybe we need to get some of our people in Balance for Better poses. I read through the stuff and got stuck where it says "Balance is not a women's issue, it's a business issue" - Sure its not a woman's issue, but it belittles those involved to think that this is merely a business issue. I think they meant "Balance is not a women's issue, it's a business issue AS WELL as and much more importantly a moral issue" Victuallers (talk) 17:01, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I'll be out of town Friday-Monday and would like to MassMessage the Invite before then. Awaiting the ok to do so. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:59, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I think you can go ahead Rosiestep we can add redlink lists to the existing pages anytime. I already sent out the Art+Feminism link in response to this tweet. SusunW (talk) 21:32, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

I don't really have much to add. FYI French and Kreyol are spoken in Haiti. I have a page of red links for notable Haitian women. Best Regards, Barbara ✐✉ 22:30, 18 February 2019 (UTC)

April 2019

Annual event: Gender Studies

I know that in the past we have done edit-a-thons on academics in STEM, and academics in general, but I'd like to propose that we do one that focuses on the pioneers of Women's and Gender Studies. These were the women that brought our history forward to balance the historic record and I think they tend to be overlooked. Women like Michèle Aina Barale,[17][18][19][20] Cho Hyoung,[21] Aurora Javate de Dios,[22][23] Gunhild Kyle,[24] Elizabeth Minnich,[25] Patricia Mohammed,[26], [27] Shulamit Reinharz is a redirect to her husband :(,[28][29] Päivi Setälä,[30], Aline Wong,[31] Well you get the idea, there are lots of them that have no articles. SusunW (talk) 19:23, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

More: Akosua Adomako Ampofo/Josephine Akosua Adomako Ampofo,[32][33][34] Winifred Hoernle/Agnes Winifred Hoernlé,[35] AnnMarie Wolpe,[36][37]
Just found Australian Women's Gender Studies Association where I should be able to find some Australian names to add. Also, there's a links page with further leads in Australia and internationally. Let me know if/when you want me to add individual names as redlinks. Oronsay (talk) 20:13, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Yay, Oronsay! Please feel free to add anyone. I'm hoping someone who knows how to create a list (hint, hint @Megalibrarygirl and Tagishsimon:) will come along and wave a magic wand. If we can get the list started, then we can all add to it. ;) SusunW (talk) 20:31, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@SusunW: Wikidata does not have an occupation of "Gender Studyist" (major omission, IMO) and so the people you seek will be lumped amongst the anthropologists, sociologists, &c. We do have a "field of work" property, but I think relatively few academics have a value for that. I've populated said property for 54 candidates found via searches, now in Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Gender Studies. hth --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:59, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Oronsay Might as well combine the by-hand list and the wikidata list on a single page. I've added all of the above-listed suggestions to Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Gender Studies. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:04, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you so much Tagishsimon and yes, most of the creators of these fields of study came out of sociology and anthropology, though there were a few historians that I am aware of. It gives us a start. Now if we can combine a crowd sourced list, we can begin to add the above to it. Truly appreciate your help, as we are all aware of my technical limitations ;) SusunW (talk) 21:11, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Thank you for creating the list, Tagishsimon! Sorry I got to the discussion late, SusunW. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
No problems, Sue. I think I can add a few of these per day to flesh out the list. Would that I had the energy to e-mail all those universities on the list and ask them to provide names, but I think that is more time than my schedule will allow at present :) SusunW (talk) 21:22, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
The wikidata list is up to 234 people, having scraped the gender studies categories for various non-EN language wikipedias. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:38, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Dance and Movement

April 29 is the International Day of Dance - it would be interesting to mark the event by focusing on women dancers, choreographers, dance scholars. anacaona 01:31, 5 March 2019 (EST)

United Nations

Hello. I was wondering if we could have a theme on the United Nations. I've made a list of women who are/were worked for the United Nations. There are over 20 names the my list who've held the role of Special Rapporteur/Independent Expert with a variety of countries. I think it'd be interesting as it's not focusing on one country. Let me know what you think :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:36, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

MrLinkinPark333 I like it! SusunW (talk) 15:27, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
The UN are our most impressive follower on Twitter IMO. @MrJohnCummings: may help here. Victuallers (talk) 11:13, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
cc: John Cummings. --Rosiestep (talk) 07:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus: Portuguese-speaking countries

I like the idea and would support it. Does that extend to Papiamento speakers as well? SusunW (talk) 18:11, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
I wouldn't oppose. Other Portuguese-based creole speakers like Cape Verdean Creole (Kabuverdianu), Macanese Patois, or Malacca Kristang could be added. Relic Keeper (talk) 00:39, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Sounds good. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 19:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
What about broadening the focus to Iberian language countries? Larger language families = more countries on more continents, which might generate more participation (writing articles; uploading photos). --Rosiestep (talk) 21:23, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
Just my 2 cents which counts for not much, but like the Caribbean gets lost in editathons which focus on Latin America/Caribbean, Portugal gets lost in the Spanish focus if we do Iberia. Portuguese-based culture/language covers a huge swath of the globe on 4 continents. That being said, I'll go with group consensus. SusunW (talk) 18:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Agree with SusunW. I'm afraid you want to make it too broad, because South America is almost entirely involved in your proposal, Rosie.
If we keep just Portuguese Timor comes to mind as well. Also people like jews with Portuguese roots. Klaas `Z4␟` V 19:10, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
Ditto. We already had a Hispanic-themed meetup not long ago. I think a Portuguese-focused one could be more stimulating, but I, too, go with the consensus. Relic Keeper (talk) 14:43, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Moved this topic from May to April per "firming up for April". --Rosiestep (talk) 23:23, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for April

We have two topics which have received support, Gender studies and United Nations. I would also support having Dance included. We made a good start on Dance in July 2017 but there is much more to do. I was also wondering whether we should move Geofocus: Portuguese-speaking countries from May to April. The French-speaking countries in March are doing quite well. In May, we could perhaps do the Spanish-speaking countries. But we could of course also have Spanish-speaking countries in April. Up to you...--Ipigott (talk) 08:24, 17 March 2019 (UTC)

@Megalibrarygirl, Rosiestep, SusunW, and Victuallers: Any comments?--Ipigott (talk) 16:31, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Rosiestep, and SusunW: I like (a) Gender studies and (b) United Nations for April, but because there aren't (relatively) many redlinks in these two lists, I think it's a good idea to also include (c) Dance and (d) Geofocus: Portuguese-speaking countries. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:35, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Rosiestep, Victuallers, and Relic Keeper: works for me, but am pinging Relic Keeper since they proposed it for May. Seems to me if we did it in April, maybe we would be able to line up DYKs for the main page on May 5th? (Hopefully by April, I will also be back in the swing of things :) )SusunW (talk) 20:51, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Rosiestep, Victuallers, and SusunW: April is fine. Relic Keeper (talk) 21:40, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
OK. If there are no further comments today, I'll put together the meetup pages, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 07:26, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Rosiestep, Victuallers, and SusunW:sorry I was offline and missed this. Let me know when they're done and I can do the mass message. I'm off work tomorrow and while I have to do a few errands, I should be able to check in and do the mass message no problem. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 02:22, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Victuallers, and SusunW: - Thank you for agreeing to create the meetup pages, Ian. When you're done, just let me know, and I'll create the April invite. Thank you, Megalibrarygirl, for agreeing to MassMessage it. #teameffort --Rosiestep (talk) 21:16, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: I've created these four but please feel free to edit further as you wish. I've left the invitation to you. I remember a while back Gerda suggested we should try to reduce the amount of space our invitations take up. They seem to have been getting bigger and bigger over the months. Perhaps we could think about bringing them down to size again - but I'll leave it up to you.--Ipigott (talk) 12:20, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Relic Keeper, Rosiestep, SusunW, and Victuallers: I think everything is in order, but if some of you have time, would you please doublecheck things? Thanks. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:40, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Hi all. Not sure if this is best/right place to post... but I and some others I know did not receive the April WIR invitation. I appreciate that it wouldn't be good to resend if only a minority missed out, but could someone look into what happened so that this hopefully doesn't recur next month? Oronsay (talk) 22:48, 24 March 2019 (UTC)

I didn't get the invite either. Think that's a first where I haven't (but I didn't notice until @Oronsay: mentioned it). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:37, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
I didn't either, but I've been so out of things this month, it didn't register. SusunW (talk) 23:45, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl, I also didn't receive it. Perhaps resend if you think that getting it twice is better than not getting it at all? Also, because there are >600 names on it, do you think we should split it, e.g. A-L and M-Z? --Rosiestep (talk) 02:46, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
I've converted the list into an index, and split the names into 3 lists: A-F, G-N, and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/O-Z. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:14, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Maybe that's what I did wrong, Rosiestep. Maybe I didn't add one of the lists? I can resend. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:53, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Thank you, Megalibrarygirl. I've received it now, as have my fellow-Wiki editors in Sydney, Australia. Oronsay (talk) 18:57, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

I got it as well @Megalibrarygirl:. Thanks! To be honest, I just want the newsletters for historical purposes to show how long I've been with WIR, considering I visit this Idea page often ;) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
No no, I don't think you did anything wrong, @Megalibrarygirl:. When you sent it the first time, there was just one list, but it had 630 names on it, which I think caused it to malfunction. Now that the names are on 3 different lists, each approx. 200 names, I don't think MassMessage will have a problem with its delivery. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:02, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

May 2019

Annual event: Geofocus: CEE

Annual CEE Women event. --Rosiestep (talk) 03:53, 1 April 2019 (UTC)

May Mays?

Had a different theme idea: May Mays, or women named May, Mae, Mei, Mai, Maj, Maya, etc. We don't have anything penciled in for May 2019 yet, and I assume it would be easy to assemble a redlist of Mays from Wikidata. It's a name that cuts across a lot of times and places in its variations. Can even include Mabels and Maymes and Maisies. Penny Richards (talk) 01:51, 16 October 2018 (UTC)

It's unique, and I like it, Penny Richards. I bet Wikidata could also give us May (+ variants: Maye, Mayes, Mays, Meir, Meier, Meyer) surnames. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:57, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
Oooh- an interesting way of looking at the world!! ☕ Antiqueight chatter 19:03, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
Certainly something to play with. Then there's April; June; July, with Julie and Julia; August, with Augusta; and, cheekily, January, with Jan, Janette, Janice and so forth! Oronsay (talk) 00:26, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Indeed! May seems to have the most potential, but a July full of Julies, Julias, Julianas, and Juliets would be a good followup, if May Mays goes well. Penny Richards (talk) 00:31, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Hmm..?suggestion to go with it? Margaret has 8 letters, and all the variations added on, so skipping August (for Augusta), that would go in October. Katherine has 9 letters- so, that and all the variations on that name (of which there are millions) could go in either September (9th month) or November (month name the 9th).....though both those names tend towards the western names variations do appear in almost all western languages. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 09:10, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
Or even people born in May? That'd help open up the amount of people as it might be difficult to find redlinks with a specific name (then again dates may not help - no pun intended). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:52, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Women called May. Ping me if you want any more May name variants adding to the report. --Tagishsimon (talk) 21:37, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Wow that's a lot of Mays! @Tagishsimon: Annie May Moore (Q24044939) redirects to May and Mina Moore. I tried to adjust her wikidata page but I can't update it as both May and Mina have separate wikidata pages plus one on both of them. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:53, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
Yup, not useful redirect; now deleted. Forgetting that, the issue here is that Listeria cannot provide a link to Annie May Moore because that is already taken as a redirect to May and Mina Moore; so it makes up a link based on name plus QId, hence Annie May Moore (Q24044939). There's nothing wrong with any of the wikidata records; it's just a trap for the unwary arising out of Listeria doing the best it can under the circumstances. The business with three wikidata items is also normal - a solution to the so-called Bonnie & Clyde problem, where a language wikipedia has an article for a duo ... wikidata has a corresponding item for the duo, and ideally discrete items for the two individuals. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
@Tagishsimon and MrLinkinPark333:, I like the idea of an additional list with women who were born or died in May as it would offer names not associated with any particular occupation/nationality/era. If you have time and inclination, would you please create it? Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:42, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Hmm. I wouldn't know how to do that for a specific month XD --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:55, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Women born in May - I've limited this to ~1500 rows from the 19k rows available by selecting those with 3 or more sitelinks. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

I love the idea to step out from -ologist type of grouping ;) Small favor may I ask and could we have Mei, Meiko, Mai, and Maiko on the WiR May list, which are popular names for a girl born in May in Japanese spelling, copying either English/German pronunciation. My great aunt is a Meiko, my friend was named Maiko and both were told by Godgrandta it's because she was born in May. Similar to Maja in Spanish/Portuguese I guess. Or if we need to stick to M-A-Y-* spelling, Maya, Mayako, Mayo, Mayu and Mayuko, but not necessarily with hint to "the 5th month". Love to hear inputfrom editors fluent in Korean and Chinese. Could ask around my Christian friends and how Christened girls were named with name of month in mind. FYI, if going very local, Satsuki is the old name for May (gogatsu in modern Japanese) but still used as a female given name in Japan. --Omotecho (talk) 04:58, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

@Omotecho: Good suggestions, all adopted. Here's the updated list of names being queried:
  • given names - mai, may, mae, mei, maj, meiko, maiko, maya, mayako, mayu, mayuko, satsuki
  • family names - mai, may, mae, mei, maj, maye, mayo, satsuki
Missing names (e.g. Mayo as a given name) is because there isn't a wikidata item. Some names - Mai, for instance - have multiple wikidata items; all are included in the query. --05:32, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Environmentalists

How about environmentalists? Women are becoming increasingly active in this area. I think it would be useful to cover them in more detail.--Ipigott (talk) 17:49, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea, Ipigott, particularly in May, as the topic supports the event that Victuallers and I will be facilitating at UCI on May 17th. Note, I wasn't able to find a redlist here, but maybe I just overlooked it. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:36, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: No, we don't seem to have a Wikidata list on environmentalists. Perhaps Tagishsimon could create one for us. (I was thinking the list could also cover conservationists but strangely Wikidata does not seem to cover them.) While he's there, if he has time and thinks it's worthwhile, he could also create lists for Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, and São Tomé and Príncipe to help us along with our Portuguese speakers in April. With Megalibrarygirl's assistance, we could perhaps also start a crowd-sourced list on environmentalists and conservationists.--Ipigott (talk) 07:50, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon Thought these Wikidata codes might help: wd:Q16060693 # conservationist and wd:Q3578589 # environmentalist Oronsay (talk) 10:59, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: There are lists for Ecologists which overlaps a little: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ecologists and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Ecologists. We might want to look through environmental activists which may be mixed into the "activist" list, too. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:32, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Environmentalists (thx Oronsay). I've not yet integrated activists, just the two above occupations. Open to suggestions for any additions to the new list. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:38, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I've added Cape Verde, Guinea-Bissau, and São Tomé and Príncipe diff. --Tagishsimon (talk) 22:58, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon: Thanks very much for these. The last three do not provide many names but the few that are there could well lead to new articles.--Ipigott (talk) 07:25, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon Can you please create a list for climatologist (Q1113838) and another one for Chicana (Q1307911) (both of these titles will be represented at the UCI event)? Thank you. --Rosiestep (talk) 09:56, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Only 2 hits for Q1307911, both with articles = zero rows in the redlist. --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:06, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Climatologists (WD) --Tagishsimon (talk) 10:09, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Tagishsimon: Interesting new list. Needs to be included.--Ipigott (talk) 17:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Women Mayors for May?

How about MAYors for the month of May? The inclusion of mayors on Wikipedia can be a surprisingly controversial topic, but the importance of these individuals, and their influence on regional and national politics, can't be overstated. Detailed, quality bios of mayors, especially for women who have served in these offices, tends to be lacking. This might be an interesting project idea for May or a future month. Thanks everyone.Scanlan (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

  • List of first women mayors - Here's an important list and resource. There are quite a few red links that could be turned into excellent, detailed biographies (judging by the Google searches). Scanlan (talk) 01:51, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Ooooh! That's an interesting pun. I like it. @Scanlan: --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 02:15, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Yes, this is good; maybe with the invitation extended to include other local leaders, for times and places that don't have "Mayors" but definitely have women in positions of local/community leadership. Penny Richards (talk) 13:56, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
The only problem with this is that there is a strong North American focus. How about the rest of the world?--Ipigott (talk) 17:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
Maybe if it's Mayors (and Other Women in Local Leadership), it would work for more times and places.Penny Richards (talk) 23:27, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: There are missing women mayors across the world in non-North American countries i.e Graciela Contreras of Santiago, Chile and Joyce Newton Thompson in Cape Town South Africa. Both can be found in Category:Lists of the first female holders of political offices. There are also women Mayors/Lord Mayors of Australian cities missing as well --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:02, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Hi Ipigott. Good point. The "Mayors" topic wouldn't be limited to just the names listed in List of first women mayors. I just included that article as an example. It could potentially be any woman mayor (or equivalent) from any country or territory. Scanlan (talk) 01:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
OK, but then we should try to expand the redlist.--Ipigott (talk) 06:12, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for May

@Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, Victuallers, and Tagishsimon: From the above I conclude we intend to address women associated with May (I think we could start with names rather than births in May here), environmentalists, and possibly also mayors (although I think it is probably enough to have two main priorities). Geofocus: Central and Eastern Europe.--Ipigott (talk) 08:15, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

We have a redlist for women born in May, above. Here's Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Mayors (2083 items). And (I guess) we have discrete country-lists for Central and Eastern Europe. Let me know if we need additional redlists constructing & tell me what should be in them. thx. --Tagishsimon (talk) 11:17, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, Victuallers, and Tagishsimon:, personally, I favor all of them as we've seen that editors like choices: --Rosiestep (talk) 12:12, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • women associated with May
  • mayors
  • environmentalists
  • Geofocus: CEE
I feel a bit guilty about voicing an opinion, as I have had so little time to participate over the last 6 months; however, May looks to be a "doctor-free" month for me, finally. Tagishsimon you have been so awesome at making lists for us and engaging on the talk page. I do not always respond, but I notice all the little things you do to make our path easier and I appreciate you. @Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Rosiestep, and Victuallers: thank you for all of your well-wishes over these many months. I think I am finally back to normal and am looking forward to collaborating once again. Whatever y'all decide I am good with. SusunW (talk) 16:10, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
I noticed your absence, SusunW, but you were in my thoughts. (Some guilty, because I let you shoulder 99% of the effort on the article we "collaborated" on.) Welcome back; you're loved in these parts. --Tagishsimon (talk) 16:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
We shall disagree Tagishsimon what you provided for the article was historical context, without which nothing makes sense, and reference leads, without which we can write nothing according to the "rules" :) .SusunW (talk) 17:01, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
You're very kind, but I was there ;). I hardly dare mention that Dr. Cobble's work pointing to concepts like Labour Women’s Internationalism or Women's Internationale remain red. --Tagishsimon (talk) 17:09, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
  • OK, we'll take all four and both aspects of May. I'll try to prepare the pages over the next day or two. I certain share Susun's appreciation of what Tagishsimon has been doing to support our project. Apart from all the Wikidata lists, for some time now, he has been the most active contributor to our talk page and has helped to sort out many of the problems posted there.--Ipigott (talk) 07:17, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I can send out the mass-message to everyone. Let me know when you're ready. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:24, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
Pleased to see environmentalists in the list Victuallers (talk) 09:11, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

@Rosiestep and Megalibrarygirl: I've created the basic meetup pages and templates for May. Perhaps you could both look them through to make sure everything's OK. Rosie might also like to add her usual "personal touch" and create the invitation including links to the WiR talk page.--Ipigott (talk) 12:59, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Ipigott, thanks. Megalibrarygirl, I've created the Invite here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#May 2019. A friendly reminder that there are now 3 lists to MassMessage: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#How to MassMessage. Everything seems good to go but it would probably be a good idea to do one more double-check. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:17, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Thanks for the invitation but there no longer seems to be an opt-out link. Is this intentional?--Ipigott (talk) 18:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
I've added it back, Ipigott. Thanks for catching that. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:28, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

June 2019

Annual event: Pride

Geofocus: Mediterranean Sea

Women of the Mediterranean Sea countries. Per the wiki article, this would include, in clockwise order: --Rosiestep (talk) 21:56, 2 February 2019 (UTC)

Queens and Royals

There must be good amount of information and resources available on queens and royals. Almost all nations will have plenty of royal ladies (past and present) not having their articles.-Nizil (talk) 11:45, 19 February 2019 (UTC)

We can collaborate with Wikipedia:WikiProject Royalty and Nobility as well.-Nizil (talk) 11:50, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
+1 Klaas `Z4␟` V 16:46, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
@Nizil Shah: Good idea! There's a few missing redlinks at List of Dames Commander of the Order of the British Empire and List of Dames Grand Cross of the Order of the British Empire that are royalty related. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 23:47, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
I like this one, @Nizil Shah, KlaasZ4usV, and MrLinkinPark333:. Can someone create a Wikidata list of women who would fit into this topic bearing in mind that different countries use different titles? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:48, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
Thank you for interest. I don't have technical knowledge. Wikidata query request on their project chat page may help.-Nizil (talk) 05:40, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

It's hard to query for these in order to make red link lists. Queens & Royals do not currently have a standard occupation on wikidata. I suppose you could query female items that are members of certain royal families, and some women do have occupation=ruler. But for minor royalty, see the discussion above on socialites/philanthropists/salon holders. Jane (talk) 15:06, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Nobility --Tagishsimon (talk) 16:23, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

Women in Space

From this idea [38] to celebrate the 50th Anniversary of Apollo 11 (July 21) SusunW (talk) 17:22, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

 --- Coffeeandcrumbs 17:50, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
This does not have to be only women who went to space. It can be any women related to space exploration, astronomy, and space sciences. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 01:08, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Yes! Women engineers involved in spaceflight like Laurel van der Wal and Marjorie Townsend, and biomed folks who work on the challenges of human spaceflight too, like nutritionist Pauline Gracia Beery Mack. Maybe also include science fiction writers and screenwriters who dealt with outer space settings; we can re-visit the crowdsourced redlist from the Women in Science Fiction editathon from last year. Penny Richards (talk) 02:44, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps we should call it Women in space sciences and science fiction or something like that. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 09:59, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for June

*Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/122: LGBTQ Women & Wiki Loves Pride
*Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/123: Royals
*Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/124: Space
*Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/125: Geofocus on Mediterranean countries
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#June 2019

From the above, it looks as if we agree on Pride, Royals, Space and Mediterranean countries. Another Believer: Are there any Pride events we should be collaborating with? Is there any concrete tie-up with Wikipedia for Peace New York City World Pride?--Ipigott (talk) 06:58, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

Ipigott, There's the annual campaign, which will see several events in June: Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride/2019. I believe there will also be a campaign at Wikimedia Commons, and other events such as meta:Wikipedia for Peace/Europride Vienna 2019 . Past WiR pages include Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/16, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/46, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/79, if those help. ---Another Believer (Talk) 13:59, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Another Believer: Thanks. Wikipedia:Wiki Loves Pride/2019 seems to be the best link. Unless Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW or Victuallers have other (or additional) suggestions, I'll include it on the WiR meetup page.--Ipigott (talk) 14:49, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
I'm good with these Ipigott SusunW (talk) 15:07, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Me, too, Ipigott. Let me know when it's time to do the mass message. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:42, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Me, too, Ipigott; I'm good with them. Please let me know when it's time to create the Invite and I will do so (except I am unavailable on Thursday and Friday of this week). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:06, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, all! I will be sure to update Wiki Loves Pride pages appropriate, once a WiR meetup page has been created. I/we appreciate your support. ---Another Believer (Talk) 18:40, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
  • Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl: I've put together the basic pages for June. Please check them out and add to them as you wish. I noticed that it is not long since we covered the Mediterranean countries. It might have been more challenging to cover the landlocked countries of Europe (and/or Africa). But we can save these for the futire. Another Believer: Feel free to develop Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/122, perhaps by including other important events and any additional redlists. There's also a slot for press releases if you have any.--Ipigott (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
    Ipigott, Will do, thanks. I've already added the WLP navbox and links to the WiR meetup at several WLP pages. So happy to have this group's support. ---Another Believer (Talk) 15:15, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
    Thanks for creating the meetup pages, Ipigott. Megalibrarygirl, the June invite is ready for MassMessaging. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:56, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
    @Rosiestep and Ipigott:   Done Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:43, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

July 2019

Annual event: Sports

Rosiestep: I wondered what had happened to our footballers and found they were now in July. But I think it would be more effective if we referred specifically to footballers and cyclists. Alternatively we could move cyclists to August when the results of the July contests would be available.--Ipigott (talk) 16:05, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
I made this change as I thought that making Sports an annual event, and making it more inclusive (more occupations) would be a good way to go. (a) Include not just cyclists and footballers, but all other athletes as well, such as those who participate in winter sports. This would, hopefully, lead to greater participation (b) We could run this event for 2 months, instead of just 1 month? (c) Victuallers has sold me on placing greater emphasis on photos. A Women in Red "Sports" event could encourage that. (e) There is already formed a multi-project/multi-lingual task force: m:Wiki Loves Sport. Now, in 2019, and as a prelude to the 2020 Summer Olympics, we could encourage lots of ways to be active: uploads into Wikidata; taking photos or using Flickr photos, and uploading to WikiCommons; Wikipedia article writing in multiple languages. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:31, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus: Microstates

What about the 25 Microstates? Like Andorra, Micronesia, San Marino, etc. Alsoriano97 talk 23:13 15 April 2019 (UTC)

I love this idea so much! Sbbarker19 (talk) 20:01, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
Me, too! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
What's the limit? Do we go by population or area? There are dozens of islands which could be included.--Ipigott (talk) 16:07, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
I would use the lists at Microstate article. --Alsoriano97 (talk) 58:29, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
the picture in the article shows 40+ states but the list has 25. maybe we could do the ones in the pic and also the microislands like the caribbean (minus haiti, the DR, jamaica, and cuba) and oceania. what do you all think? Sbbarker19 (talk) 03:31, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

Education

I like the idea. It could include women educators, plus schools founded by women, plus women's schools, and maybe women who are alumni of schools? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:32, 22 May 2019 (UTC)
Sure. Teaching is what many women did and still do remarkably well. Inventive and innovative as well. Think of Maria Montessori et al. Klaas `Z4␟` V 17:56, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for July

* Sports: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/126
* Education: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/127
* Geofocus on Microstates: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/128
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#July 2019
Yes, that's a good idea. Maybe we can do Sports in July and leave August for another topic.--Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:21, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I probably won't write on any sportswomen, but I agree there is a lot of support and it should be done. SusunW (talk) 15:34, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I certainly agree we should devote two months to sports but I had actually been suggesting that we could cover sports in general in July and then, depending on how that one goes, we could have a more focused event on two or three of the more popular sports in September or October. By then, we should also have had time to develop/expand crowd-sourced lists of red links or simply compile links to other appropriate lists. There are lists of women in sports with lots of red links all over the place! Maybe we could set up a group of sports enthusiasts to bring them all together. Nevertheless, if the others agree we should do sports in general for the next two months, so be it. It makes it easier to compile the meetup page, etc.--Ipigott (talk) 16:00, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I like writing on sportswomen, so count me in. Penny Richards (talk) 16:06, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
That is a good idea, and it will probably be interesting to more editors since it won't be specific. There is so much soccer news right now too, especially in the Americas. I think this will be great! Sbbarker19 (talk) 17:53, 20 June 2019 (UTC)
I'll be writing about sportswomen whether or not it's a monthly/yearly focus or not. :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 22:12, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
  • I will probably have time to prepare the meetup pages on Monday. As we still don't have much for August, perhaps we could wait until then for Film+Stage. Unless there are further suggestions, for July I can then cover Sports, Education and Microstates. We can always decide later whether to extend sports into August or include it once again as a priority in September or October.--Ipigott (talk) 10:39, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Supporting Ipigott's suggestion, I've moved Film+Stage to August. Regarding Sports, I favor July+August as many different editors have brought up many different occupations on the WiR talkpage, e.g. referees and managers, per SounderBruce, so keeping sports enthusiasts focused for 2 months on everything possible under that umbrella makes sense I think. I'll create the Invite after the meetup pages are ready; just ping me please. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:09, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Can whoever makes the sheets make sure that in the add photograph section it has this line? *Please add this category to the image if you're uploading it to Commons: '''[https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Media_supported_by_WikiProject_Women_in_Red_-_2019 Media supported by WikiProject Women in Red - 2019]''' I can never remember what the cat name is and have to go back to other photos I have added to find the category. That seems like double-work to me. Thanks!
Also, Rosiestep did you not create the same category on en.WP? I get that one might not want to use it for Fair Use images, but in the case that an image is in the PD in the US, but not the country of origin, or for images on en.wp but not on commons, we might use it. See Cécile Brunschvicg. SusunW (talk) 20:22, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
SusunW, that's a good idea. If you have time, would you please add that line to all the current meetup pages? I think that Ipigott will use a current meetup page to create the ones for July, so it'll be automatic going forward. Regarding the category on en.WP, I've never uploaded a photo to en.WP so I'm clueless how any of that works. If you or someone else knows the right process, it would be awesome to have it there, too. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:27, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
Really? I upload at en.WP all the time for people who are dead but for whom I cannot find/prove a PD image. As they say, I picture is worth a thousand words. It's just a wizard you complete from the "upload" function on your left hand taskbar. The situation with Brunschvicg was much more complicated, but you use the same wizard. I have no idea how to make categories for photos either on commons or en.WP. I'll be happy to add that language to the current meetup pages. SusunW (talk) 20:51, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
  Done and pinging Rosiestep because I forgot to before. SusunW (talk) 20:56, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
SusunW, I guess I'm weird, but I've never uploaded an image to Wikipedia. I've made thousands of uploads to WikiCommons, I've probably created hundreds of categories on WikiCommons, I'm proficient with cat-a-lot and the crop tool... so there's that. BTW, thanks for adding the language to the current meetup pages; that's a good idea. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:15, 21 June 2019 (UTC)
  • @Rosiestep and Megalibrarygirl: I've created the meetup pages. I was a bit surprised to see we did not have many redlists on the microstates. Don't know whether it would be worthwhile creating more Wikidata lists. Maybe they would not be very revealing. Perhaps we could put together a specific list on microstates, if Tagishsimon thinks it would be worthwhile.--Ipigott (talk) 12:57, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: If you do, perhaps you could point to the discussion on sports on the WiR talk page.--Ipigott (talk) 15:20, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Megalibrarygirl and Ipigott:, I'll get started on the Invite now, and I'll include a link to our talkpage's discussion on sports. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Alsoriano97, Ipigott, KlaasZ4usV, Megalibrarygirl, Moira Paul, Nonmodernist, Penny Richards, Sbbarker19, StrayBolt, SusunW, and Victuallers:, I've created the July invitation here. Please check it over carefully, particularly all the links. Note that I've added some things, (a) "Initiatives we support", and (b) links to all of our social media (we only had Twitter before). Is this ok? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:52, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep I made one spelling correction and fixed the template numbers in the instructions to match the numbers at the top. All the links seem fine to me. SusunW (talk) 17:07, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
SusunW, thank you! --Rosiestep (talk) 17:21, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep I changed the pinterest link to land on the "boards" page (which is more representative of what we're doing there than the "pins" page). Penny Richards (talk) 18:36, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
  Penny Richards --Rosiestep (talk) 19:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: I don't want to sound critical but I'm a little bit concerned that you have included 1000 Women in Religion at this time. As you probably know, I have been trying to help with this initiative ever since it started but am concerned that they have not yet contributed very much to our biographies. Maybe we should leave it for later when there is a specific event we wish to support or when we can combine it with our own focus on religion. Otherwise the invitation is fine.--Ipigott (talk) 18:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Sorry to not have included you in emails in the last few weeks, Ipigott, but the 1000 Women in Religion group has been very active! They've been working with PKM and me in developing the first round of their Wikidata redlist, with me regarding their May event, with Clifford Anderson regarding their June event. They've also connected with Victuallers regarding images and with Megalibrarygirl, too. Roger and I attended a dinner with Janice Poss (one of their Core Team members) in May; and I originally met Janice in February at Wikipedia Day LA where she assisted me on a Women in Red presentation. I've been on several google hangouts with their core team. Regarding Atari Women (an initiative of the University of Copenhagen with the University of Washington), I've been mentoring their Core Team for several weeks now, and again PKM is assisting with their Wikidata redlist. Of course, Roger and Ewan have kept us aware of the Uni of Edinburgh events for some time. For these reasons, I thought to include these 3 on our invite -give them a bit of promotion- but also hoping that when other editors see this, it would encourage them to step forward and let us know about other efforts that support our scope but are unknown to us (e.g. Through Twitter, I know there are events happening in Australia and New Zealand but I don't know specifics). That said, if you and/or others believe that our invite should not include items such as these, let's remove them. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:15, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Thanks for your detailed reply. I have of course been following your involvement with 1000 Women in Religion and I know that they have recently been progressing with building up their image, arranging meetups at Holy Wisdom Monastery and Vancouver, etc. Unfortunately, despite all the efforts we have made to assist them over the past couple of years, there is very little to show in terms of article creation or improvement. I keep asking them to list the articles they have created but as far as I remember, up to now there have only been a couple and perhaps one or two drafts which are not ready for mainspace. It's a pity no one in their group seems committed enough to Wikipedia to take more interest in editing and assisting others in their group with the Wikipedia challenge. In other words, they certainly don't seem to be in the same league as the University of Edinburgh. But if you are keen to include them, please go ahead. I just think that given all the time and effort we have spent on helping them with their lists, events and websites, it's a great pity that there is so little to show at this stage. I hope very much that once 1000 Women in Religion actually start producing results, we can encourage others to follow their example and draw on their experience. As for Atari, it looks like a worthy cause in that they intend to enhance the coverage of women in the early history of Atari games. Looks good. I sympathize with the approach as it coincides with my own early involved in the world of computers at a time when women simply didn't count.--Ipigott (talk) 19:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Thank you all for the cooperation, the links etc. I'm pretty busy the upcoming weeks, but what I can I'll do. Keep up the great works on WiR y'all Klaas `Z4␟` V 21:08, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
I think that in the section of Microstates, there are missing States like San Marino, Monaco, Vatican City, Cyprus. Alsoriano97 21:47, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: Let me know when the invite is done. I'll mass message. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 21:55, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, Megalibrarygirl. I think it's ready to go. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:53, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: at the moment, the Special Mass message page is not loading for me. I'll try again in a little bit. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:12, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
  Done Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:43, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
  • Rosiestep: I've been reflecting overnight on 1000 Women in Religion and now think you are probably right to include a link in the invitation. Making all our participants aware of what they are striving to do will no doubt encourage others to help them along. I also appreciate the recent efforts you have been making yourself to support them. Let's hope they soon start covering just a few more of all the women they have been investigating. Please let me know if you think there is anything specific I can do to help them along myself.--Ipigott (talk) 05:30, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

August 2019

Annual event: Indigenous women

Geofocus: Millennial countries

What about focusing on the countries made in the '90s and 2000s? If not "millennial", then youngest. We can get info from here It could include:1

Sbbarker19 (talk) 14:49, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Sbbarker19: That'd be a different idea :) It'd make WIR sound hip with the cool kids :P --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:23, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333: hahahahahah i honestly couldn't guess the ages of people on this project but i always assume college. Sbbarker19 (talk) 21:14, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Sbbarker19 In that I think you would be very mistaken ;) as our age range is very broad and many, like myself are Boomers. But, your suggestion led me to the idea that as en.wp is often imbalanced toward recentism, that we could follow such and event with a geofocus on defunct countries. SusunW (talk) 16:18, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
These are additional ones I could think of, but is there a list somewhere on Wikipedia? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Just found this, (List of sovereign states by date of formation), which Sbbarker19 linked to earlier, but which "date" would we go by as there are multiple columns? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:46, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
@SusunW: clearly i dont interact enough with other editors!! I love that idea so much. im glad my ignorance was put to good use hahaha :) also @Rosiestep: i would propose the date of the birth of the new government, but if there is not entry, then the date of sovereignty, but that makes SO MANY countries:

but, if we go down to sortable list and "date of last subordination", we get:

which is a lot, but much much less! i added the WD lists, in case anybody else wants to work on adding more people to wikidata for the countries with no lists! Sbbarker19 (talk) 20:56, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Sbbarker19 LOL. Maybe you can use List of former sovereign states to create lists for next month? SusunW (talk) 21:02, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Film+Stage

Because in July The New Adventures of Pippi Longstocking was released in USA what about a project FF[F] (i.e. Fictional Females [in Films]) including of course girls.  Klaas `Z4␟` V 15:48, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Female Pioneers of Early Cinema: 1 Feb 2019 is the centenary of Mary Pickford co-founding United Artists so perhaps we could look for for women working in cinema pre-1919? Moira Paul (talk) 23:49, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
If needed, you could expand it with "Women behind the camera" or at least have a link to the July 2018 Women in Film and Stage. Another alternative is "Silent women" for women working in the Silent film era, extending it to pre-1929. StrayBolt (talk) 18:38, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

@KlaasZ4usV, Moira Paul, and StrayBolt: looking over the redlists currently available for this event, I found these here. Did I miss any that we already have? Do we want to create any new ones?

You might want to include (for whatever month):

StrayBolt (talk) 08:31, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

Is it possible to create a "fictional females" Wikidata list? If so, and if it's very large (>1,000 items), maybe multiple lists would be in order, e.g. for film+theater, for literature, and so forth. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:53, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
I mean, this appeals to me. It gives me something to work with that isn't so recent as to be a copyright nightmare unless I luck into a release. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 00:16, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
If writers are scheduled for September, the Playwrights and Screenwriters could be moved there. StrayBolt (talk) 07:06, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

Sports

  • I think we agreed that Sports would run from July 1 - August 31. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Linkage+Findability

Following up on Twitter conversations, I'd like to suggest something unique: making one of our events focus on Linkage+Findability. This event would encourage Women in Red enthusiasts to add (a) categories, (b) wikilinks, (c) external links to existing articles within the scope of our project, and/or (d) wikilink a woman's biography to another page(s). I think it would be interesting to view the Outcomes section of such an event page. --Rosiestep (talk) 18:25, 16 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rosiestep: I love this idea a lot!! I think it works in the scope of the whole WikiProject Women. If we did this, we could really try to incorporate the other daughter projects. Or, just spinning off ideas, we could make this a biannual thing to specifically focus on the WiR articles made so far through the year. Sbbarker19 (talk) 14:28, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Cool, Sbbarker19! Maybe for the Outcomes section of the meetup page, we could list the articles whose linkage we improved, with a key indicating what we improved: +cats (added categories), +wls (added wikilinks within the article), +wls/other (added wikilinks in other articles pointing to this one). Or something like this. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:51, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: i'm totally on board! we could tell the folks at biography maintenance, WP categories, WP stub sorting, WP wikify, and integrate! i bet some of them would like a specific project. Sbbarker19 (talk) 15:55, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
@Sbbarker19: yes! Getting more people involved would be so helpful! --Rosiestep (talk) 16:13, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Agree with what SusunW said. Note, if consensus feels that including a Linkage+Findability event is one too many for August, we could consider moving it to December and making it an "Annual" event. On the other hand, we could consider making it a monthly event, as it would be a good way for newbies to be involved and "get their feet wet". --Rosiestep (talk) 15:28, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
I like Linkage+Findability as an on-going event like 1day1woman or suffrage. It clearly addresses a gap in incorporating women's articles in the encyclopedia. Maybe we announce it as a new continuous initiative aimed with that goal in mind? SusunW (talk) 15:32, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
I think making linkage an ongoing initative would be useful regardless of the theme of the month, like when we focused on adding photos for visibility in the infoboxes. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:31, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Could we include two more aspects of "findability"?
(a) Making redirects from plausible other names - eg with/without middle name, use of married/birth surname, any form seen in any of the sources used. And then doing "what links here" in case there's then any cleanup needed, eg if your 19th century poet shares a name with a redlinked 21st century tennis player once you remove her middle name!
(b) Adding her to the surname article/list, or dab page, or making a redirect or hatnote ... One way or another making her findable by surname. Some editors would say we need to do the same for forenames but I can't feel much enthusiasm for that: is a reader really likely to look for a woman by her given name alone, unless she's a saint, goddess, or mononymic musician? Whereas writers, academics, etc are often referred to by surname ("the early work of Bloggs and Whatsit in the field ... Thingummys theory of ..., etc).
I don't know how we could easily quantify this work, nor avoid duplication of effort by sharing it around. PamD 20:47, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333, PamD, Sbbarker19, and SusunW: I think there's a lot of enthusiasm for this initiative, but it's more aligned with "WikiProject Women" than with "WikiProject Women in Red". How about copying/moving the discussion to that talkpage? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:18, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: I don't mind moving the discussion there, as long as it's incorporated here ;) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 17:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
@MrLinkinPark333: we're all volunteers around here, so if you want to take the lead on sorting this out -here, or on the Women in Red talkpage, or on the Wikiproject Women talkpage- that's great. Go for it. Sorry that I have to duck out now; I'm leaving on international travel. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:51, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: I meant i don't mind if the discussion is moved there, i mispoke lol. pinging @PamD, Sbbarker19, and SusunW: for comments. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Copied to: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women# Linkage+Findability.--Rosiestep (talk) 10:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for August 2019

* Sports: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/126
* Indigenous women: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/129
* Film+Stage: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/130
* Geofocus on Millennial countries: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/131
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#August 2019

I'll be on international travel Wed, July 24 - Mon, July 29. If possible, let's sort out our August events over the weekend and I'll create the Invite no later than Tue, July 23. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:06, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I've never seen so many suggestions as we have for August. Perhaps someone would like to make a tentative list of priorities. The only thing we have already decided is that Sports should continue for one more month.--Ipigott (talk) 11:55, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Indigenous women, Film+Stage, Sports, Geofocus: Millennial countries, and a gnoming "special event" (because it's not new articles) Linkage+Findability, is what I see above. SusunW (talk) 13:39, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Alrighty, looks like the August line-up will be: Indigenous women, Film+Stage, Sports; Geofocus: Millennial countries; Gnome event: Linkage+Findability. @Adam Cuerden, Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, Moira Paul, MrLinkinPark333, PamD, Sbbarker19, StrayBolt, SusunW, and Victuallers: could one or more people please create the meetup pages? Then I'd be glad to create the Invite. Afterwards, who wants to send the MassMessage? --Rosiestep (talk) 21:20, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
Isn't this far too much for one month? It seems to me we attract more focused participation if we have just one or two priorities and a new geofocus, especially as we also have two other continuing topics.--Ipigott (talk) 06:14, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes, it is more than we commonly schedule. Suggestions on what to change? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
As we had film + stage last July and indigenous women last August, we could reschedule either one of them for later this year. I'm not too sure whether the gnome event should be a priority in its own right or simply mentioned for encouragement. It could perhaps be included specifically in connection with #1day1woman, not just for August but for the rest of the year. It would probably be best if you Rosie adapted the meetup page. I would therefore suggest we focus on film + stage, sports and millennial countries. Perhaps reschedule indigenous women for October.--Ipigott (talk) 17:03, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
I am not in favor of moving indigenous women. It is an annual event and coincides with the month when Indigenous People's Day occurs. If ever there was a topic where the content gap is atrocious, it is clearly indigenous people, and particularly women. SusunW (talk) 17:19, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I'm in favour with @SusunW:. If Indigenous women is an annual event, it should be locked in like Pride and Black History. I think Gnome event could be expanded to a yearly imitative. I don't see why having sports for two months is needed so I suggest removing this one. We'd be coming back to sports next year with the Olympics, so there's no loss in removing an extra month of the same topic. To be honest, I would like an extra month, but based on July's results for sports, I'm highly convinced otherwise. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
While I haven't contributed 1 article to the Sports event, it's definitely a hit with some editors, and it has a positive affect on our Metrics: in the first 22 days, there are 337 new articles. The editors who signed up to participate in the Sport event are under the impression that it will last for 62 days (July+August) so they may have their work lists planned out for another 40 days. I feel uncomfortable saying, "nah, we changed our minds". I'd rather we postpone something like Linkage+Findability (or move it to WikiProject Women?) vs. going back on what we said we would do. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: :In that case, perhaps adapt the gnome finding into each monthly editahons like when we improve articles with pictures. Film + Stage was already moved once. As for sports, a closer look would be required at the articles. Sure a lot of articles are made, but unfortuantely I've seen a lot of stubs :( --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:06, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, MrLinkinPark333. In the Outcomes section of every event, we ask editors to add the articles they created or improved. So far, improvement efforts seem to have focused on "expand", "re-write", "added photo", and such. But we could start encouraging 2 other forms of improvement: "linkage" (add wls and/or categories) and "findability" (link another article to this woman's biog). Also, maybe it's time we split the Outcomes section with subheaders for: Outcomes/New Articles and Outcomes/Improved Articles. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:27, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Sounds good! Let's see about everyone's elses ideas. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:43, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
I really like the idea of more headings. New articles sometimes get buried among the upgrades and deserve to by given pride of place. Oronsay (talk) 02:15, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm going to be pretty busy for the next couple of days but should have time on Thursday to do the meetup pages, etc. Just let me know by then what they should be.--Ipigott (talk) 07:35, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
I'm kind of in the same boat. Will be out of pocket Wednesday-Friday with very limited on-line time. From the WiR talk page, it is clear people are already preparing for indigenous women. If we move the linkages idea until another month when we all have time to better plan for it or incorporate it in another editathon, we are left with Indigenous women, Film+Stage, Sports, Geofocus: Millennial countries. We've done 4 before, so I do not see that it is an issue to do it again. SusunW (talk) 20:30, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
OK. Let's do all four. I'll prepare the pages tomorrow or Friday.--Ipigott (talk) 07:12, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
I've made a start on these. I'll expand them tomorrow.--Ipigott (talk) 16:41, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Megalibrarygirl Rosiestep: Apologies for taking so long to create the meetup pages this time. I've been rather busy this week with lots of family guests here in Denmark. I think the pages are more or less OK now but I would appreciate double checking before you send them out with the invitation. I still intend to add more redlist links but I can do that over the next day or two.--Ipigott (talk) 14:53, 27 July 2019 (UTC)

September 2019

Annual event: Writers

  • Women in Science Fiction and Fantasy: (-Or Women in Genre fiction, Women in Comics, or other such group identifiers. Aka Women writers, women illustrators, women in STEM etc) - To tie in with the Worldcon event in August? ☕ Antiqueight chatter 12:35, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
Antiqueight : I just updated the SFF Women redlist with 2019 British Fantasy Award nominees, in anticipation.Penny Richards (talk) 15:54, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus: Defunct Countries

In response to the idea for August including millennial countries it might be interesting to balance that focus out with a focus on women from countries that no longer exist. SusunW (talk) 16:20, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

I like this idea a lot. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:41, 19 July 2019 (UTC)
Good idea! -Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:07, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
I like the idea too but it may help to focus on countries which have become defunct over the past hundred years or maybe since World War II. The List_of_former_sovereign_states gives a fairly comprehensive list of all defunct countries but it seems to me it would be difficult to include them all in one geofocus. It might also be useful to eliminate countries which have simply changed their names since independence, for example most of the former Africa colonies. Perhaps we should start by listing the defunct countries we feel are most important for our September focus. We can then start compiling lists of women's names, no doubt with assistance from Wikidata.--Ipigott (talk) 13:38, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
I have no idea how we sort through them. I am guessing, since our coverage of Africa in general is so poor, there will be few women, in any of them under any name. When I proposed the idea, what immediately came to mind was the Ottoman Empire, East Germany, Rhodesia, Wallachia, Moldavia, Gran Colombia, The Holy Roman Empire, Yugoslavia, etc. SusunW (talk) 14:46, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
Perhaps also Czechoslovakia, Newfoundland and Hawaii.--Ipigott (talk) 13:56, 24 August 2019 (UTC)

Women in Law

23 December 1919 is the centenary of the Sex Disqualification (Removal) Act 1919 in the United Kingdom, and women were first admitted to the Inns of Court in January 1920. I went to look for the first four women admitted and three of them do not have wikipedia entries. I've added them to the Women in Law redlist and noticed there are quite a few other redlinks there across other countries. Perhaps we could focus on this ahead of the centenary of the Act, so anyone researching women in law as a result of the centenary finds more entries than they would now? Hence me suggesting this for a month a few months before the actual date. Moira Paul (talk) 14:23, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

I love this idea Moira Paul. Had a very productive time last time we did lawyers. One of my favorite bios required women working together in 4 countries to pull the sources to write it :) SusunW (talk) 16:21, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
 . Me, too; love this focus, @Moira Paul and SusunW. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:36, 29 December 2018 (UTC)

Military History

WP:MILHIST are running a backlog drive in September. One of the targets will be to create new articles (including those from our lists (CS, WD). The last collaboration was reasonably successful with 73 new articles and 20 DYKs, so it may be worth looking at a repeat event? - Dumelow (talk) 10:49, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Dumelow, I like this suggestion. --Rosiestep (talk) 08:17, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Women during World War II

World War II started Sept. 1, 1939 with the German invasion of Poland. This means that it will be exactly 80 years ago. As such, it seems like a good idea to me to write about women during World War II, all theaters included (European, Asian and African). --MrClog (talk) 23:13, 22 July 2019 (UTC)

  nonmodernist (talk) 23:58, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
Moving this to October after discussion on WiR talk page. Could be "Nazi victims of World War II" covering all the European countries occupied by the Nazis. We need to build up redlists. Thanks to Tagishsimon, we now have Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by occupation/Resistance fighters which looks useful.--Ipigott (talk) 15:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
Additional ideas for WW2-based Wikidata lists: women in the military (e.g. nurses); Righteous Among the Nations; Holocaust victims; women born between 1939-45. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:24, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
I've moved this one into September to coincide with the anniversary month. Also, I've coupled this one with the suggestion for "Military History" as I think it's nice to collaborate with other WikiProjects to the extent when that also works for us. --Rosiestep (talk) 10:34, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
Yes, now that we also have Military history, I agree we should move it back to September. We should also specifically mention resistance fighters and partisans.--Ipigott (talk) 09:42, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for September 2019

* Law: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/132
* Military history: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/133
* Writers: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/134
* Geofocus defunct countries: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/135
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#September 2019

Are we ok with these: Geofocus Defunct Countries, Law, Military History, Writers? --Rosiestep (talk) 14:16, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

OK for me. Looks as if quite a bit of detail will be needed for the meetup pages. Unless you have a lot of time on your hands yourself, Rosie, I'll try to develop them over the next couple of days.--Ipigott (talk) 14:02, 24 August 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: I've prepared initial versions of the four meetup pages. We still don't appear to have a list of women from defunct countries. I don't know whether Megalibrarygirl or SusunW are interested in starting a crowd-sourced list. In the meantime, I've tried to provide a few Wikidata links which might help. We still do not have WD lists for Righteous Among Nations or Holocaust, as you suggested above. Perhaps Tagishsimon can create them. In connection with Women Writers, I see there is a Hobart Festival of Women Writers in September. Don't know whether we should mention it or liaise with them.--Ipigott (talk) 11:55, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Ipigott I'm good with those 4 focuses, but I cannot be counted on until next week, which will be too late to prepare the lists. Sinus infection is sapping my energy. SusunW (talk) 13:56, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
SusunW: Sorry to hear that. Don't worry. I've added lots of WD links.--Ipigott (talk) 14:29, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I'll create the invite today or tomorrow. It would be nice to be in touch with Wikipedians in Hobart regarding their event, so I reached out to WM Australia via their FB page. Maybe Victuallers knows someone in Hobart and/or WM Australia? SusunW, ugh; I hope you feel better soon. Megalibrarygirl, will you be able to MassMessage after we finalize the Invite? --Rosiestep (talk) 15:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, and Victuallers: please double-check the Invite (Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#September 2019). If it is ok, it's ready for MassMessage. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:02, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Looks fine to me but from what I've seen, there is seldom any response to "Subscription options: Opt-in/Opt-out" and it doesn't cover membership of the project. How about trying: Become a member of Women in Red by clicking on "Join WikiProject". From time to time people tell me they think they have joined after they have added their name to the mailing lists.--Ipigott (talk) 15:30, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Looks okay to me. Will be a busy month, I like all of these topics :) SusunW (talk) 15:35, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
Added "join" option. MassMessaged the invite. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:26, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

October 2019

Annual event: Scientists/STEM/Ada Lovelace Day

  • Supporting: October 8th, Ada Lovelace Day (ALD). I like the idea of making "scientists" an annual event every October. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:57, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
  • I noticed the "May" theme. I challenged myself last year to do all the "Ada"s ... are there any left I wonder? I have been working away to myself in the last few years to do all the notable women in the ODNB whose first names begin with "A" (you have to start somewhere). Would this be ["A" good theme (pun intended)] to do irrespective of country? Wikidata could find them easily I guess. (Non Latin names would qualify if first letter in their alphabet)? (pun intended) Victuallers (talk) 11:01, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
Just 146 of them, Victuallers
  • Women in science: International Day of Women and Girls in Science is 11 February 2019, with a focus on "Investment in Women in Science for Inclusive Green Growth". There is always a long list of crowdsourced and wikidata scientists. Emphasis could be on Green-related fields, like Environmentalists, which was already suggested for May 2019. Emphasis could also include women involved in Green Technology. We can use links from October 2018 Women in STEM as a starting point. StrayBolt (talk) 19:01, 14 January 2019 (UTC) P.S. Our ODNB list is inaccurate ging false negatives - can anyone improve?)
  • 40 years Ada: May 1979 programming language Ada named after Ada Lovelace was chosen out of like four designs. Perhaps a nice occasion to pay more attention to female geeks, mathematicians etcetera. Working title: C0d1ng Ladies  Klaas `Z4␟` V 18:05, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
  • KlaasZ4usV, I think this one would be well-suited for October (our annual STEM event). Would that be ok? --`Rosiestep (talk)
  • We are possibly planning an event with The Philly Pod of 500 Women Scientists for either September or November 12 October 2019; I would love to have a Women Ecologists theme for that month. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:31, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi Mary Mark Ockerbloom - We'll be doing our annual Women in STEM in October again (coinciding with Ada Lovelace day). Women Ecologists would be well-suited for that. Would this be ok? --Rosiestep (talk) 13:35, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Update: I am hearing that there are a lot of ALD events being planned around the world in October. Glad to hear that you are planning something, Mary Mark Ockerbloom, with The Philly Pod of 500 Women Scientists. Note, I am planning an ALD event in Washington DC with the DC Pod of 500 Women Scientists. w00t! --Rosiestep (talk) 18:39, 16 July 2019 (UTC)
Update: Hi Rosiestep, We managed to get our event scheduled for Saturday 12 October 2019, so it will be an Ada Lovelace event, focusing on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Ecologists and in line with your October women in STEM theme. We are doing some advance work with 500 women, so that they will be well prepared. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 07:01, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
@Mary Mark Ockerbloom: ♥ --Rosiestep (talk) 14:27, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
  • Given the evolving interest in women neuroscientists, perhaps we could include them specifically, including Tagishsimon's new redlist.--Ipigott (talk) 06:45, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Fashion

In coordination with WikiDonne's m:Wiki Loves Fashion campaign in September/October. (cc: Camelia.boban) --Rosiestep (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

  --Camelia (talk) 15:53, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus: Landlocked European countries (or all landlocked countries?)

Especially Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourg, San Marino, Liechtenstein, Andorra and the Vatican (but also perhaps Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, Serbia, Macedonia, which also featured in CEE countries)--Ipigott (talk) 12:32, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

While I personally enjoy writing articles about these countries, we focused on "Central Eastern European women" in May and "Mediterranean women" in June, so perhaps we'd want to consider moving "Landlocked European countries" from July to later in the year? --Rosiestep (talk) 18:19, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
Alternative: Landlocked country# List of landlocked countries and territories. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:05, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
I like the idea of Landlocked countries in general. That includes countries in Europe, Asia, Africa and South America, so plenty of scope for different editors' interests. RebeccaGreen (talk) 15:57, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Stubathon

Following up on the conversation on the WiR talkpage regarding A 20/20 vision: 20% for 2020?, I'm proposing a 3 month (Oct-Nov-Dec) stubathon of maxi-stubs (>1000 bytes of prose). This event, like all the others we do, will also welcome article improvement, in thise case, expanding the prose of a mini-stub (<1000 bytes of prose). --Rosiestep (talk) 16:07, 30 August 2019 (UTC)

I fully support this initiative and suggest it should be presented as a kind of contest with virtual prizes for winners of Month 1 (October), Month 2 (November) and Month 3 (December) as well as for the overall winners for the three months. If there is sufficient support, I'll try to put together the meetup page with sections on new maxi stubs and articles de-stubbed. I suggest de-stubbing should be based on former stubs reaching an ORES rating of at least start class. The de-stubbing could also cover the newly created stubs provided they are de-stubbed by editors other than the original creator. Maybe we it would help if we suggest optional topics for each month: writers, artists, scientists? Any other suggestions? --Ipigott (talk) 10:04, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for October

* STEM: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/137
* Fashion: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/138
* Geofocus landlocked countries: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/139
* Stub Contest: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/140
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#October 2019

With only 10 days to go until October, it looks as if we have Science, Fashion and Landlocked countries. If we are going to start a three-month stubathon, we should also start preparing this over the next week. In addition to science and fashion, we could target other popular professions such as actresses, painters, politicians and writers, drawing editors attention to all the redlists we have on there. Any other ideas?--Ipigott (talk) 09:56, 20 September 2019 (UTC)

We could add SFF writers and artists in to the STEM side? ☕ Antiqueight chatter 10:36, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, and Victuallers: Any further comments or should I just start preparing the meetup pages, including one on a stub contest (which you could subsequently all review)?--Ipigott (talk) 10:56, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Ipigott I'm good with those. Antiqueight Science fiction and fantasy? I seem to recall that, but not sure. I don't have a problem with adding it if y'all want. SusunW (talk) 13:24, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
SusunW Ooops, yes. Sorry. I find dead Irish women writers easiest to write about but I believe in getting women in Science and Science fiction included because we're so often left out of the discussion (like with gamers). So I throw them into any and every opportunity. And I got behind on my writers in September ;-) I forget that not everyone sticks SFF in when they mean science fiction and fantasy. Also I'll be at a related convention in mid October and I got badges and such from Smirkybec which I'll bring with me - so I can set up a Wikipedia writing stand somewhere...But yeah - I was thinking of it as a subsection of STEM. ☕ Antiqueight chatter 13:37, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
There's also a lot of good opportunities to take women sci-fi writers to Good Article status. James Tiptree Jr is one that needs some attention. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:45, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Yes for Science/STEM, Fashion, Landlocked countries, and Stubathon. Regarding the STEM event page, yes add redlist(s) for sci-fi writers, science journalists, etc. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:15, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
  • @Rosiestep, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, and Victuallers: I've almost completed the meetup pages but I would like to have feedback on the Stub contest page. I think it's probably clear enough and I should be able to manage any problems with the articles added. Nevertheless, please let me know what you think.--Ipigott (talk) 10:40, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I think the instructions are very clear Ipigott. SusunW (talk) 13:37, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
I do, too, Ipigott. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:17, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, and Victuallers: I have create the Invite; please doublecheck it. --Rosiestep (talk) 16:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Are you available to MassMessage the invite, Megalibrarygirl? --Rosiestep (talk) 16:16, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Rosiestep: I'll do the MassMessage right now. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 17:29, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
  • I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on how we can give wider publicity to our Stub contest. Perhaps on social media?--Ipigott (talk) 18:00, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

AfroCine 2019

Hello. AfroCine 2019 will be holding in the months of October and November. It'd be great if the focus during these months be somehow related to African/black Cinema in some way. I know that its already too late late for October, but November probably still has a chance. HandsomeBoy (talk) 17:10, 29 September 2019 (UTC)

November 2019

Annual event: Geofocus: Wiki Asia Month

  • May: November: Asian Heritage Month. Mkdw talk 19:03, 23 August 2018 (UTC)
  • moved to November as in the wiki movement, WikiAsiaMonth is historically celebrated in November. --Rosiestep (talk) 19:39, 20 September 2018 (UTC)

Librarians, archivists, libraries, archives

I know we've done women's organizations in the past, but I keep running across archives of women's materials like the Gerritsen Collection, the National Archives for Black Women's History, etc. Not sure if it is possible to generate a Wikidata list, but this could be helpful. I notice some of these have articles about the "host" of the collections, but do not mention their archival records. So there are opportunities to upgrade other existing articles. In the event that the list of actual archives is short, it seemed logical to pair with librarians. Perhaps Megalibrarygirl has other sources that could expand the list of archival facilities? SusunW (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

I can look into archives. I have an archivist friend who might be able to help me out, SusunW. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:16, 5 July 2019 (UTC)

Leadership

@Rosiestep, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, Victuallers, Tagishsimon, and Penny Richards: From our Redlist on Leadership, it looks as if we have lots of opportunities for new articles. Maybe we could also address leaders in business, finance and politics. How about picking out names from Category:Awards honoring women? Any ideas of how we could develop appropriate Wikidata lists in this connection? I see Wikidata has "leader" (Q1251441).--Ipigott (talk) 11:46, 13 October 2019 (UTC)

We could definitely use a "Wikidata leaders redlist", to include "leader" (Q1251441), as well as: director (Q1162163), military officer (Q189290), chief executive officer (Q484876), etc. We should include a clickable button (wikilink) on the "Wikidata leaders redlist" to the "CS leaders redlist" and the "Wikidata politicians redlist". --Rosiestep (talk) 12:18, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
I love this topic, Ipigott. And while we're speaking of lists is there a way to sort Wikidata for feminist archives and libraries? SusunW (talk) 14:56, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Maybe Tagishsimon can help us make up a list for the archives and libraries. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:33, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for November

* Librarians: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/141
** Template:WIR-141: {{WIR-141}}
* Leaders: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/142
** Template:WIR-142: {{WIR-142}}
* Geofocus Asian women: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/143
** Template:WIR-143: {{WIR-143}}
* Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#November 2019

Time keeps marching on and we now need to prepare urgently for November. I'm not at all sure how to handle Wiki Asia Month. Perhaps a simple link would be the easiest solution. In past years, Rosiestep has been closely involved in this but it may be easier just to encourage people to sign up directly. Otherwise, in addition to librarians/archivists and leaders, I suppose we just continue with the stub contest, #1day1woman and suffrage. I must say I'm a bit fed up at the moment as I have been wasting lots of time on re-creating deleted articles. So any help would be appreciated, e.g. from Megalibrarygirl on stub contest awards (but if you're too busy I think I can probably adapt past awards without too much trouble myself) and Wikidata lists on leaders and librarians/archivists if Tagishsimon thinks it's worthwhile. If not, we'll try to make do with what we have.--Ipigott (talk) 16:04, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

So sorry Ipigott I am not much help with technical things and have just arrived back "in country" having had to travel on urgent personal business. If there is something I can help you do about recreating articles, I will try, but I do not know how to do any of the other prep work. SusunW (talk) 17:10, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, SusunW, I really don't need any help with re-creating articles although I do find it a complete waste of time. The editors who have had their articles deleted obviously wanted to contribute to women's coverage until they ran into difficulties. I think I can take care of things over the next few days but I am increasingly concerned with the lack of interest from our leading admins.--Ipigott (talk) 17:49, 27 October 2019 (UTC)
Sorry for being quiet lately; I'm at Berlin airport now, headed back home. There was lots of #wikilove for Women in Red at Wikidatacon. Very happy to see how the global movement views our work with such high regard. Regarding Wiki Asia Month, I would recommend that we have an event page to include redlists for Asian countries. Also, I think we need to encourage more editors on the main WiR talkpage to be involved with administrative tasks. I'd be glad to create the November Invite and do the MassMessaging if someone will ping me. --Rosiestep (talk) 04:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep: Glad to hear things went well in Berlin. Perhaps you could create the Wiki Asia Month page based on Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/100. I seem to remember we handled it differently before 2018 but I can't see anything in the WiR template. I have a feeling someone needs to coordinate work on the EN wiki. If we call Asia Month #143, I'll make a start today or tomorrow on Librarians #141 and Leaders #142. Thanks for inviting others to help out. Let's see if there are any volunteers. As for the stub contest, I'm rather pleased to see how it has been progressing. Despite one or two objections to the format over the first couple of days, everyone now seems to have adapted to the system. The layout makes it very easy for me to tot up the contributions from each user; the way it's set up, there is no doubt about who has participated. I therefore suggest we continue along the same lines in November.--Ipigott (talk) 11:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I'll try to get something done today for the award. My personal life has been pretty crazy and cutting into Wiki time (mostly I'm dealing with two teenaged kids who need a lot of help in school -- so nothing bad!) I didn't know about anyone having their stubs deleted. What happened? Sorry for being out of the loop. :( Megalibrarygirl (talk) 15:17, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: Understand your problem. We have an 18-year-old grandson living with us but he's generally no trouble. For the deletions, see the WiR talk page: "Disappearing articles". Looks like over 1,000 women's biographies have gone because of a sock problem. Huge job to rewrite them. From the ones I've been working on, it looks as if many of them were about really important women and their works. Extremely frustrating. On the contest awards, I thought perhaps we could build on Template:10 new biographies:Women in Red August 2018 achievements, Template:Participant:Women in Red August 2018 achievements, etc. I think it's important that winners should be able to include boxes on their user pages.--Ipigott (talk) 15:50, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I've started on the Wiki Asia Month page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/143) but now have to board my next flight. Will finish the page tomorrow. NOTE: power outage in my city due to California fires. So delay is possibke/likely. --Rosiestep (talk) 21:59, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
I think #143 is pretty much ready now, but of course, additional eyes are welcome. Next, I'll get started on the Invite. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:06, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott, Megalibrarygirl, SusunW, Victuallers, and Tagishsimon: I am back home and no fire danger here. I think #143 is pretty much ready now, but of course, additional eyes are welcome. Invite is done, too, but please review to make sure there are no mistakes (and fix mistakes if you spot them!). I can MassMessage today once everything is ready; please ping me. --Rosiestep (talk) 13:19, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep at the bottom of 141 and 142 the "Editathon banner for talk pages: Template:WIR-141:
 Women in Red: Libraries and Archives (2019)
 This article was created or improved during the Libraries and Archives edit-a-thon hosted by the Women in Red project in November 2019. The editor(s) involved may be new; please assume good faith regarding their contributions before making changes.Women in RedWikipedia:WikiProject Women in RedTemplate:WikiProject Women in RedWomen in Red articles
" is red. Does that mean neither template was created or something? SusunW (talk) 14:10, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks Ipigott. I am not good at fixing stuff, but am pretty good at evaluating what may need to be fixed :) . SusunW (talk) 15:21, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks SusunW. I actually did not see your message until after I had created the templates. I usually leave them to the end as they will probably not be used until the first articles are added at the beginning of the month. But it's good to see there's someone keeping an eye on what we do. I'm pleased to see we have a redlink lists for librarians. Maybe you can add to it. Or suggest other sources.--Ipigott (talk) 17:48, 29 October 2019 (UTC)


December 2019

Religion

I think it's been 3 years since we pursued this scope so I'm suggesting it for this Dec. Plus, I think we are set with redlists for this topic. :Rosiestep (talk) 22:51, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Rosiestep: We last did religion a year ago: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/98. But I see 1000 Women in Religion had a meetup yesterday in San Diego - Wikipedia:Meetup/San Diego/1000 Women in Religion 2019. Unfortunately there's not much evidence of progress on that page but perhaps Dzingle1 can give us an update. In any case, it might be better to coordinate religion with one of their upcoming events and give them plenty of time to prepare for it. I see we also have Wikipedia:Meetup/San Diego/SBL S25-402 on Monday.
If you're looking for another topic, we could do classical music (musicians, choirs, conductors) in December rather than January. Christmas is after all closely associated with music.--Ipigott (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Ipigott, Actually, I wasn't trying to tie in with the 1000 Women in Religion project (I am aware of their activities this weekend in San Diego); I just overlooked last year's event, so thank you for double-checking. In the meantime, as per your suggestion, I've moved "Classical music" up from Jan to Dec. Seems like a good fit. --Rosiestep (talk) 17:40, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep, The edit-a-thon went well. People continue to contribute through the weekend. We are making many international connections. The Australian academics are actually getting very organized around the 1000 Women in Religion Project. I made some connections with a contingent from New Zealand and South America. December would definitely be early for us. Later in 2020 might be very fruitful. Please remember me when you think about scheduling this. We might be able to facilitate an international effort. Dzingle1 (talk) 05:48, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
I am so happy to hear that this weekend's event went well, and that you are making connections all over the world. It really is an important project. Do let us know here at Women in Red when you think there would be good timing for a collaboration so that both our teams have a chance to prepare. --Rosiestep (talk) 14:59, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Classical music

Isn't it about time we focused on classical music with a special emphasis on musicians? There must be hundreds of notable individual performers and members of orchestras or smaller groups who deserve to be covered. We could also try to extend coverage of women playing different instruments: piano, violin, cello, viola, harp, flute, recorder, oboe, clarinet, organ, trumpet, saxophone, trombone, trumpet, guitar... We could also include vocalists, choirs, etc. Lots of room for new Wikidata lists as well as crowd-sourced. Gerda Arendt may have some ideas about this.--Ipigott (talk) 15:02, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

We don't have Women's choir and Girls' choir, to begin with. There are wonderful women conductors around. On the day of St. Cecilia, patron saint of music. DYK? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)

Annual event: Women who died in 2019

December would be a good month to create articles for women who passed away that year. It would help the media create year-end lists of notable women as well as using media's lists to create articles. A Wikidata search could be created for either the year or the past 12 months. Some tools have been made for indexing obits.[39] This topic reduces WP:BLP issues. It could be an annual editathon. It could also be extended into January or just the usual extension of most events. StrayBolt (talk) 17:20, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I like this idea for December. Penny Richards (talk) 15:13, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
That;d be an interesting way to cap off the year. I like this idea! --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 00:05, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Geofocus options

Antarctica

Antarctica maybe? or both the poles? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:44, 25 June 2019 (UTC)

I like that. End of the earth kind of goes along with end of the year. SusunW (talk) 17:51, 25 June 2019 (UTC)
Are there enough women connected to Antarctica alone to be worth it? I'd imagine it'd be mostly research scientists and maybe a couple explorers, which I'd be surprised if it was more than a few dozen, and not every one may have enough material for a decent article. Adam Cuerden (talk)Has about 6.8% of all FPs 00:08, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
For our December event, I like (a) both of the poles (Arctic/Antartica) and (b) SusunW's train of thought, "End of the earth kind of goes along with end of the year". --Rosiestep (talk) 22:43, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
I like this idea! --Yupik (talk) -23:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Arabian countries

Arabian Countries? What do you think if we make this time it is dedicated to the women of the Arab and Islamic countries? We all know that the feminist movement is very necessary in thos countries.--Alsoriano97 (talk) 15:35, 20 June 2019 (UTC)

Underrepresented countries proportional to population

We could pick countries with lowest number of women biographies proportional to population. This Wikidata query lists countries by number of biographies of women born in the last 100 years proportional to population. Top 20 are Democratic Republic of the Congo, South Sudan, Sudan, Yemen, Chad, Mozambique, Laos, Madagascar, Myanmar, Guinea, Niger, Malawi, Bangladesh, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Saudi Arabia, China, Tanzania, Benin and Oman. --MarioGom (talk) 14:51, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Updated top 20: Democratic Republic of the Congo, South Sudan, Sudan, Yemen, Chad, Mozambique, Madagascar, Guinea, Myanmar, Malawi, Niger, Bangladesh, Laos, Burkina Faso, Saudi Arabia, Ethiopia, China, Tanzania, Benin and Indonesia. --MarioGom (talk) 22:48, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
Great idea, though may be a bit of a challenge! PamD 15:27, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
@MarioGom and PamD:, I was thinking this might be a good one for February 2020, as Feb has the fewest days in the year (e.g. proportional to the other months). --Rosiestep (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Bashkortostan

We do not have a lot of coverage for topics about the women in Bashkortostan AND the they've launched a Wiki-Babushka project recently. There's a lot of material on the Bashkir and Russian Wikipedias to get started with, but I'm not sure how much of this is about women (I'm creating a table as we speak). If this topic is too narrow, we could expand it to cover Republics of Russia or the Unrepresented Nations and Peoples Organization. -Yupik (talk) 21:21, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Yupik, we've never done a geo-event as narrow as one state within a country, or even just one country. Perhaps Russia + countries of the former Soviet Union would make sense (e.g. repeat the June 2018 event Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/82, in June 2020)? Also, it's hard to believe that there are <1,000 names on this list, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Missing articles by nationality/Russia. Can you sort out if any are from Bashkortostan? --Rosiestep (talk) 23:04, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Rosiestep. Sounds like a good idea to expand it. I was going quickly through some of the categories on the Bashkir and Russian Wikipedias, but got sidetracked, sorry. Here are the two tables I did for Bashkir writers, poets, and translators: meta:User:Yupik/Bashkirs2 and meta:User:Yupik/Bashkirs2. There are around 120 women on these lists, although not all of them are accurately marked in Wikidata, so there are actually more. One issue that I ran across is that WP:RUS is not very useful for languages other than Russian, so we'd have to figure out a way of romanizing the names. -Yupik (talk) 23:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Yupik, I like your lists. Yes, Romanizing the names will be a challenge. I can do so relatively-easily from Russian, but not from Bashkir. --Rosiestep (talk) 00:02, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Parliamentarians

Tying to the year-long 'Focus on Suffrage', 1 December marks the centenary of Nancy Astor taking her seat in the UK House of Commons so perhaps we could look at female parliamentarians worldwide? Moira Paul (talk) 23:54, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

I've started looking into this to see if there are redlinks to find. I suspect this ties to the wider comment elsewhere about structure of pages around suffrage as there isn't an obvious single source. However, List of the first women holders of political offices in Asia illustrates that there are names to start pulling together from these partial lists alone. ETA: First female parliamentarians does not exist as a topic or a list. Moira Paul (talk) 17:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Moira Paul, Category:Lists of the first female holders of political offices, though not a collection of redlists, shows the scope of what's been covered and might be helpful to you, if you haven't already explored it. Oronsay (talk) 19:37, 28 December 2018 (UTC) In local government, there are lots of redlisted women mayors on List of first women mayors. Oronsay (talk) 19:40, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
+1 There are a lot of articles to be created here. We could rely on lists such as Spain 1977-present (eswiki) or National Assembly (Nepal). I think some form of list exists for most countries, either in English Wikipedia or other languages. --MarioGom (talk) 13:32, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
We'll need help with creating a Wikidata list of members of parliaments. Tagishsimon, can you help with this, or I can ask someone on the Wikidata Telegram list if you're busy with other things. For clarification, @Moira Paul and Oronsay: are you suggesting that we change the event scope from Parliamentarians to Politicians, which would include Parliamentarians plus e.g. mayors, Minister of..., etc.? --Rosiestep (talk) 22:36, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

Firming up for December

*Continuing
** Suffrage: en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/107
** #1day1woman: en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/108
** Stub contest: en:Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/140
*New
** Parliamentarians: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/144 / Template:WIR-144: {{WIR-144}}
** Classical musicians: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/145 / Template:WIR-145: {{WIR-145}}
** 2019 deaths: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/146 / Template:WIR-146: {{WIR-146}}
** Geofocus: Arab world: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Meetup/147 / Template:WIR-147: {{WIR-147}}
*Invite: Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Outreach/2019#December 2019

@Rosiestep, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, Victuallers, Tagishsimon, MrLinkinPark333, Penny Richards, Adam Cuerden, and StrayBolt: Time keeps marching on and we only have a few days left before the end of the month. On geofocus, Antarctica looks interesting but I don't think there'll be very many women we can cover. Perhaps we should leave this until we have time to put together a red list. Maybe we could extend the scope to "Explorers". As for "Women who died in 2019", wouldn't it be more logical to leave it until January? As we covered sub-Saharan Africa in 2018, I think it would be useful to cover the countries of the Arab World as suggested above. We could perhaps try to liaise with appropriate wikiprojects as well as with Arabic-speakers on the Arabic and Egyptian Arabic versions of Wikipedia (if we have any contacts there). I would prefer to keep to "Parliamentarians" rather than politicians in general as we covered "Deceased politicians" a year ago and our current "Leadership" focus also provides scope for politicians. So for me that leaves: Classical musicians, Parliamentarians and Arab World and the three continuing items. Any other suggestions?--Ipigott (talk) 11:00, 24 November 2019 (UTC)

Antartica would be a good idea but the very successful award winning editathon we had was led by #AntarticWomen. Could we get them to take the lead again. The map that they created showing how nearly all of Antartica was named after women was inspiring - & amazing considering that only men were allowed on the continent at one time. Victuallers (talk) 11:39, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Victuallers: Sounds interesting but can't find anything on #AntarticWomen. Can you provide a link? In any case, maybe we could leave this until January as there's not much time left for preparation for December.--Ipigott (talk) 12:11, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Wiki is stopping me from including the links I want. You can type #Antarcticwomen into Twitter and it will show a lot of stuff. This link shows the context. Awards were made to Jan and others. Roger Victuallers (talk) 12:51, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
What I gather from the discussion above is that we are looking at Parliamentarians, Classical Musicians, and women who died. Think those are all fine and really see no reason to move the deaths to January as the obits will run in December and articles can be written. As for the geofocus, I'm okay with whatever y'all decide. SusunW (talk) 13:44, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Also okay with "women who died in 2019" -- December is the usual month of looking back on the ending year. We could even organize the event's "new/improved articles" listings by month (Died in January 2019, Died in February 2019, etc.) so the year's necrology unfolds in order. Always glad to work on classical musicians, too. Penny Richards (talk) 14:55, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
Parliamentarians, Classical Musicians, and women who died sound fine with me, plus I'm ok with any geofocus or no geofocus. --Rosiestep (talk) 15:06, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
We need to decide what happens to women who die late December - does the editathon continue on into January to allow for them to be included? It probably should explicitly do so ... and even be open-ended: in some cases - obits in professional journals etc - there can be quite a delay in the WP:RS becoming available. PamD 16:48, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
  • @Rosiestep, SusunW, Megalibrarygirl, Victuallers, and PamD: I see there is still a bit of confusion on this. What I therefore suggest is: Parliamentarians, Classical musicians, 2019 deaths (extending into January) and geofocus Arab World. I also suggest in January we focus on Explorers (including Antarctica and the Arctic) as a main topic rather than geofocus. If you all agree, I'll start creating the meetup pages for December.--Ipigott (talk) 09:37, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Looks good. PamD 13:52, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Looks good to me Ipigott. Thank you for keeping us sorted. SusunW (talk) 15:26, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
  • As I'm likely to be tied up with other things for the rest of the week, I've created the meetup pages and the templates. It would be useful if they could be double-checked as I've been working against the clock. I see Tagishsimon has been kind enough to add a few more musicians. Perhaps we could also have a Wikidata list on 2019 deaths.--Ipigott (talk) 16:24, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: I'll take a look at the pages you made. :) Rosiestep do we have the invitations done yet? Megalibrarygirl (talk) 16:41, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: Thanks for your assistance. Why don't you create an invitation page yourself? It's not very difficult. Then you could send it out by mass messaging.--Ipigott (talk) 17:01, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott and Rosiestep: I'm on it! Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:32, 25 November 2019 (UTC)   Done
Thanks, Megalibrarygirl. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Also, Ipigott, the pages look good to me. :) Megalibrarygirl (talk) 18:47, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Megalibrarygirl: The invitation looks good too. Thanks for your help.--Ipigott (talk) 20:31, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
@Ipigott: Thanks for creating the pages. I fixed the missing "col end" on most of them. Minor issue, but there is still an extra end div tag after the "Thank you" which probably could be deleted. Was exploring some ideas for different Wikidata queries. StrayBolt (talk) 20:56, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
StrayBolt: Thanks for that. I'd noticed the div col end problem last night and fixed one of them but decided to leave the rest for today as I had run out of time. Thanks to you I don't need to bother. It's always good to have people double-checking these things.--Ipigott (talk) 07:15, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
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