Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Assessment/1957 Pacific typhoon season
Archived discussion. Current status: {{Start-Class}}
Is this a B-class yet? I'm not quite finished with the descriptions, but it's come very far. Also, Jdorje, when I'm done writing storm descriptions, can you plz upload tracking maps for each storm? Icelandic Hurricane #12 22:58, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- It's not bad. It's start class and passable, but not B class. Is there any info on damages? Hurricanehink 23:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- I only have what was there before for damages. I need to write the storm descriptions first, though. Icelandic Hurricane #12 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, ok. Well, try and write as much as possible. Hurricanehink 00:16, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- I only have what was there before for damages. I need to write the storm descriptions first, though. Icelandic Hurricane #12 00:04, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- How about now? Icelandic Hurricane #12 11:58, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- As a rule of thumbs, B class cannot be attained for a season article unless all storms have a summary. The wording also needs to be improved in places. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- OK, that can be done! Icelandic Hurricane #12 17:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- Does someone know where i could find images of tropical cyclones from this season. I've looked, but no luck. Icelandic Hurricane #12 20:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- Its before satellites - so pictures are going to be hard to come by; there might be the odd radar image at best.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- That's enough for me. Also, I've written descriptions for all the storms; is it a B-class now? Icelandic Hurricane #12 02:13, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hello? Is it a bclass mow? Icelandic Hurricane #12 20:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not quite. Wording needs to be improved in places. Some storm summaries are fairly short, like Mamie. All that is said is its formation date and ending date. Where did the storm go? Trix, Judy, and Lola also have this problem. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- All done with the summaries now. Icelandic Hurricane #12 18:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- What about Trix? Also, you need to get a thesarus! :) Every storm summary starts out with "Typhoon X formed in the Open Pacific". Other ways to avoid using formed include saying developed, a tropical storm was first observed, began its life, or an area of disturbed weather organized into a tropical storm. You also need synonyms for moved, strengthened, and weakened. Check you typos, there's a lot of them. Never change the date formatting. If you want to link to a date, use May 16, not tomorrow or two days later. If you want to change it up and not use the same date a lot, simply don't link to it. Just say two days later. Some phrasing simply doesn't make sense. On the penultimate day? Met its demise? Formed near the same position as Judy? Elaine was formed? At that exact moment? Those don't make much sense for tropical cyclones. The first two are a bit too dramatic, IMO. Rather than saying formed near the same position as Typhoon X (which should be used as little as possible), you could say, "On November 17, Tropical Storm Mamie developed over the open Pacific Ocean, similar to the start of Typhoon Lola." Or something like that. Storms can't be formed, they just form. For the last one, it goes with the rest of the article as well. When regarding tropical cyclones, they are so large that pinpointing exact figures are near impossible. You should always say, Tropical Storm X made landfall near Biloxi, Mississippi, not that the storm struck Biloxi, unless it did. For Della, when it crossed the date line, you should say something like, "As the storm was crossing the date line, it turned sharply to the northeast". Also, finally shouldn't be used too much in writing TC articles. First, it can exaggerate things a bit, and it is also improper and opinionated. What would be better is replacing finally with what was taking so long. If you said "Finally the storm dissipated", you could say, "After 15 days as a tropical cyclone, the storm dissipated". The reader can and should decide it was a long time, but there's no need to say something like finally. For a lot of storms, you skip ahead a lot. Let's take Mamie as an example. You go from it forming and moving northwestward to the storm peaking at 125 mph. You should elaborate a bit and say it rapidly strengthened, or if it was gradually, say it gradually strengthened. But isn't a good way to start a sentence, as seen in Mamie, Kit, Elaine, 9W, Agnes, Virginia, Shirley, Rose, and 1W. As seen in Agnes, don't let the reader you don't know why it happened. Just say it did. You can say that Agnes turned to the northeast, sparing a direct hit on the Chinese coast. 9W has an unusual opening, which isn't very suitable for an encyclopedia. In addition, three days long isn't terribly short. 6 storms in last year's hurricane season had a duration of less than three days. Basically, give the article a good read through, fix the rampant spelling errors, and try and make the writing like other seasonal articles. Wow! That's a lot of todo. Good luck with that! Hurricanehink (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Also, be sure to get rid of the she's. Tropical cyclones are genderless. Hurricanehink (talk) 19:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- What about Trix? Also, you need to get a thesarus! :) Every storm summary starts out with "Typhoon X formed in the Open Pacific". Other ways to avoid using formed include saying developed, a tropical storm was first observed, began its life, or an area of disturbed weather organized into a tropical storm. You also need synonyms for moved, strengthened, and weakened. Check you typos, there's a lot of them. Never change the date formatting. If you want to link to a date, use May 16, not tomorrow or two days later. If you want to change it up and not use the same date a lot, simply don't link to it. Just say two days later. Some phrasing simply doesn't make sense. On the penultimate day? Met its demise? Formed near the same position as Judy? Elaine was formed? At that exact moment? Those don't make much sense for tropical cyclones. The first two are a bit too dramatic, IMO. Rather than saying formed near the same position as Typhoon X (which should be used as little as possible), you could say, "On November 17, Tropical Storm Mamie developed over the open Pacific Ocean, similar to the start of Typhoon Lola." Or something like that. Storms can't be formed, they just form. For the last one, it goes with the rest of the article as well. When regarding tropical cyclones, they are so large that pinpointing exact figures are near impossible. You should always say, Tropical Storm X made landfall near Biloxi, Mississippi, not that the storm struck Biloxi, unless it did. For Della, when it crossed the date line, you should say something like, "As the storm was crossing the date line, it turned sharply to the northeast". Also, finally shouldn't be used too much in writing TC articles. First, it can exaggerate things a bit, and it is also improper and opinionated. What would be better is replacing finally with what was taking so long. If you said "Finally the storm dissipated", you could say, "After 15 days as a tropical cyclone, the storm dissipated". The reader can and should decide it was a long time, but there's no need to say something like finally. For a lot of storms, you skip ahead a lot. Let's take Mamie as an example. You go from it forming and moving northwestward to the storm peaking at 125 mph. You should elaborate a bit and say it rapidly strengthened, or if it was gradually, say it gradually strengthened. But isn't a good way to start a sentence, as seen in Mamie, Kit, Elaine, 9W, Agnes, Virginia, Shirley, Rose, and 1W. As seen in Agnes, don't let the reader you don't know why it happened. Just say it did. You can say that Agnes turned to the northeast, sparing a direct hit on the Chinese coast. 9W has an unusual opening, which isn't very suitable for an encyclopedia. In addition, three days long isn't terribly short. 6 storms in last year's hurricane season had a duration of less than three days. Basically, give the article a good read through, fix the rampant spelling errors, and try and make the writing like other seasonal articles. Wow! That's a lot of todo. Good luck with that! Hurricanehink (talk) 19:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- All done with the summaries now. Icelandic Hurricane #12 18:58, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not quite. Wording needs to be improved in places. Some storm summaries are fairly short, like Mamie. All that is said is its formation date and ending date. Where did the storm go? Trix, Judy, and Lola also have this problem. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:43, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- Hello? Is it a bclass mow? Icelandic Hurricane #12 20:25, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- That's enough for me. Also, I've written descriptions for all the storms; is it a B-class now? Icelandic Hurricane #12 02:13, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- Its before satellites - so pictures are going to be hard to come by; there might be the odd radar image at best.--Nilfanion (talk) 20:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- Does someone know where i could find images of tropical cyclones from this season. I've looked, but no luck. Icelandic Hurricane #12 20:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
- OK, that can be done! Icelandic Hurricane #12 17:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- As a rule of thumbs, B class cannot be attained for a season article unless all storms have a summary. The wording also needs to be improved in places. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:16, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
I'm so crazy, I put it up for GA! íslenska hurikein #12(samtal) 21:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- You know, that's not necessary... Titoxd(?!?) 03:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Or quite young. TimL 05:07, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- Fine, I removed it, and I apologize. --Hurricanehink (talk) 13:18, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
It still needs all of the comments I listed above. Hurricanehink (talk) 04:58, 6 December 2006 (UTC)