Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Lê Văn Duyệt

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Promoted -MBK₀₀₄ 20:58, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lê Văn Duyệt edit

Nominator(s): YellowMonkey, Amore Mio YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll)

Article about a Vietnamese general who helped Gia Long start the Nguyen Dynasty; Gia Long made him the viceroy of southern Vietnam. Later he became involved in a bitter rivalry with the next Emperor Minh Mang; one reason was that Duyet tried to block the emperor's ascension to the throne. This lasted for around 12 years before Duyet died, after which Minh Mang posthumously convicted him of crimes and jailed his supporters, causing a revolt to breka out. YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 06:20, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support ~~Comments~~ My issues have been addressed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 20:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This doesn't make sense: In the early 1820s, Duyet dispatched a delegation to seek out British officials in an attempt to buy storms, but the party got lost in storms
What's an honorable jade belt? Was this some sort of special distinction?
You might consider adding parenthetical names for place Westerners might known by a more modern or translated names.
What are these? In addition, Duyệt was the instructor of three đình formalities which were copies of royal rituals.
Is there a missing 'last' in this fragment? thus making Duyệt the holder of the post--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 08:21, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done so far except what the dinh and the jade belt are. Need to look up YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 06:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Đình/dinh is đình làng, which is the center of the village community. It's as important as a city hall[1]. I also don't know what jade belt is, I got this from Choi's book. I'll try to locate a Vietnamese source for these information, but please wait a few days because all of bookstore and library have been closed during the Tết holidays.--AM ^(talk) 03:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update I did a search today but I couldn't find out anything regard to "đình formalities" because I don't know which book historian Thien Do has used (Google prevents me from reading the citation sector). I'm sorry.--AM ^(talk) 04:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've clarified it from what I could find YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:02, 26 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
- No problems reported with external links. A number of your images are missing alt text, please add this forthwith. A number of dab links in the article need to be located and if at all possible fixed. More to follow later. TomStar81 (Talk) 19:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 06:01, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- The section "Conflict with Minh Mạng" starts with the line "However, there was a lot of tension between the pair." This reads awkwardly to me, I think this could be safely removed from the lead of the section with no real loss in coverage.

Sure thing YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

- There seem to be a large number of red links in the article, has any attempt been made to see about getting these articles created? TomStar81 (Talk) 03:58, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Amore Mio are working on the redlinks, theoretically. We're the only two people active who write anything about the indept Nguyen Dynasty (1802-1883), but short one-liner stubs can be done real quickly YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars photo poll) 04:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

No hurry, YeelowMonkey, I was just curious. TomStar81 (Talk) 04:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Working in some article. Please wait.--AM ^(talk) 12:20, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support TomStar81 (Talk) 04:30, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support, but would it be possible to add more images, or do something to break up the text? Especially in the section about conflicting with the new emperor there are extremely long blocks of text with absolutely nothing to break it up, making the article very unappealing for a reader. – Joe N 02:04, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The only other thing is a map of his citadel. Not great but added nonetheless YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 03:29, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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