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Template:Italics after edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused after refactoring Template:Italic title prefixed. Arbitrarily replaces the middle character with a space which is not very helpful. User:GKFXtalk 23:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Template:Everwood edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:09, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed a red link and three redirects from this template. Currently, there are only three links and I do not believe that is enough to justify having a separate template (and I do not think the template is particularly useful at the moment). Aoba47 (talk) 22:23, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Asian Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 16:07, 20 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:37, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose In the case of the Jordanian templates, they are only unused because they were broken by this automated edit. I suspect that is the case for many of the others too, especially those in the "County body election, DATE" format. The correct action would be to revert the automated edits that broke them. CMD (talk) 15:50, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
CMD, that's not the case for the Jordanian or any one of these templates. All the information is already transcluded on the election articles. These templates won't be used and have become redundant. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:59, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Could you explain your meaning? I provided a specific diff which explicitly shows this is the case. Since that edit, zero new text has been added into Elections in Jordan to replace the templates. CMD (talk) 16:03, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
What I mean is that for instance the information on the template, Jordanian parliamentary election, 2013, is redundant because the information that's on this template is already on the article, 2013 Jordanian general election, thus the template is unnecessary to keep. That edit you state on the Elections in Jordan article, those sections no longer use the template coding and instead link to the respective page for the year the election was held. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:17, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Chipmunkdavis Even if that edit broke the template, that really isn't the reason they are unused. They were removed from the article Elections in Jordan with this edit [1], which was correct (and would have been even if the links worked). The main article isn't a repository for all election results. Those should be on the individual election pages. And as you can see on a page like 2003 Jordanian general election, the election results are there using a different table, which again is correct. Templates like these have very few watchers and are easy target for vandalism. Having data in an article (as it should) makes editing and watching for vandalism easier. Gonnym (talk) 16:19, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The edit I mention is specifically the reason the Jordanian templates are unused. The edit you mention did not remove the templates in question, it removed broken code. If the issue is presenting the information through templates, then their code should be copied to the pages where they were broken, before deletion occurs. CMD (talk) 16:30, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The information is already presented on the specific elections articles. No need to keep these templates. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Information can exist in multiple places, this is part of WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. CMD (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete all Regardless of the fact that the Jordanian templates were accidentally removed from a single article, they still aren't needed. I have added tables where there is anything useful back into Elections in Jordan (the 2010 one is pointless), so hopefully this addresses CMD's point. Number 57 17:02, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    The East Timorese templates were similarly broken leaving a mess of redlinks, the issue is not isolated to Jordan. The replacement Jordanian templates are helpful but less detailed than the pre-existing templates. I have no attachment in principle to the template format as I mentioned above, but deleting them does not retain the information as has been asserted. For example, the replacement 2013 Jordanian template does not provide any differentiation between the two difference electoral systems used in that election, which seems a pretty key detail. CMD (talk) 17:18, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Re the Jordanian templates: 2003 (x2) – contain no information not in the existing table; 2007 – I have added the total number of voters to the table, but the percentages are wrong (they are % of seats not votes as claimed); 2010 – the additional information (electorate/turnout) is not in the source given and cannot be transferred elsewhere (and another source has difference figures); 2013 – I have updated the table to take into account the different voting systems and added the electorate/turnout.
    Re the other countries listed above, in all cases they are not the most recent election and therefore not generally included in the Elections in... articles, as they usually only contain details of the most recent elections. In terms of the additional information:
    • Bahrain – 2010: Only additional detail is ideology of parties; 2014: the ideology and number of candidates are additional, but the first is not really suitable for the table, while the number of candidates in the second round is mentioned in the article text. The number of first round candidates by party is not in the source given in the template.
    • Bhutan – there is some additional detail in the template, but it is in the article and not typically included in the results table.
    • Burma – template is identical to table in article
    • Egypt – the only additional detail is the abstentions, but this is not always included and is a simple calculation of electorate minus voters
    • Inagi – no additional details
    • Iraq – January 2005: Only additional detail is party leaders, which is not usually included in results tables; December 2005 three other parties are listed as winning 0 seats, but is unsourced and they may only be listed to show that they lost seats (again, not standard practice)
    • Israel – additional detail is % of seats, which is not usually included in tables and is not really being lost as can be calculated again
    • Maldives – no additional details
    • Nepal – the only additional data is change in %, which is incorrect as the previous election was for a different entity and a comparison shouldn't be made
    • Oman – no additional details (article mentions there are 84 seats and all candidates are independents)
    Cheers, Number 57 20:11, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    I have no opposition to editors looking at these case by case and making content determinations, my point is that the rationale for deletion, that they were "all unused", is in part due to faulty automated editing rather than any editorial decisions. There is also no guarantee that "information is already displayed on the respective election articles", which it was not for the 2013 Jordanian elections, and for which the new template lacks the same concision and context. I'm going to look into the Jordan templates, and at least put the relevant information into textual form, but this obviously couldn't be done if the templates had been deleted, and is a process that should occur prior to TfD rather than within it. CMD (talk) 01:14, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Cambodian Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 15:38, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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East Timor Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:15, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Indonesia Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Kazakhstan Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Kuwait Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Kyrgyzstan Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Laos Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Nagorno-Karabakh Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Singapore Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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South Ossetia Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Sri Lanka Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:06, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Tajikisatan Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:06, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Turkmenistan Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:06, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Uzbekistan Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:06, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Vietnam Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:01, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Yemen Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:01, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already displayed on the respective election articles. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 16:38, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Editnotices/Page/Manda edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Agreed. Removed by original author. -- Alexf(talk) 20:14, 13 June 2021 (UTC) Alexf(talk) 20:14, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This template is doubly wrong. (1) Unlinked and redlinked entries are permitted on DAB pages per WP:DABMENTION and WP:DABRED. (2) References are forbidden on DAB pages per WP:DABREF. For analogous cases, see Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 January 16#Template:Editnotices/Page/Aslan (disambiguation), Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 January 28#Template:Editnotices/Page/Grace and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2021 May 25#Template:Editnotices/Page/IA, all of which resulted in deletion.

Request to next passing admin - please add {{subst:Tfd}} to this template, which I am unable to do. Narky Blert (talk) 14:03, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TfD notice   Done. User:GKFXtalk 14:05, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete More of these redundant edit notices need to be deleted. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 15:12, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
    Four down? how many more to go? I found those randomly, within the last six months. If someone could list the intersection between template names with the format "Template:Editnotices/Page/*" and Category:Disambiguation pages and its subcategories (which I cannot; I cannot even search for such templates, and had to be shown the title style), any that remain could be easily nuked. Narky Blert (talk) 18:10, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Narky Blert, from my count that I found, there are 570 that use the term "it will be removed without warning". When I checked some pages, emphasis on some, they were used on multiple spaces. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 18:21, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Infobox netball biography/club career edit

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The result of the discussion was Delete; deleted as G7 by Plastikspork (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT⚡ 15:09, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Unused sub-template, not edited since April 2020 so presumably not wanted any more. User:GKFXtalk 13:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I created it to test something to add to the template, which has since been done. I forget why I created a subpage but the required changes were made to the template. —  Jts1882 | talk  14:15, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Template:Timm Starkk edit

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The result of the discussion was Template does not exist. If the title linked contains a typo, feel free to correct the typo and un-close this discussion. AnomieBOT⚡ 15:12, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTWEBHOST. ~~~~
User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:57, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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European Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:00, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All unused and the information is already on the respective pages. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 00:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Central/South American Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 01:00, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All the information is already transcluded on the respective mainspaces. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:28, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Paraguayan Elections edit

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The result of the discussion was delete. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 00:59, 19 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

All the election information is already transcluded on the mainspaces. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 23:17, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete all Now unnecessary. Number 57 17:04, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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