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Fair Use guidelines?

Hi! On the President of Guatemala page, there are a few former presidents that are missing a photo. I'm wondering, would a photo taken from, say, a local newspaper be considered fair use in this case? Or would the fair use claim be valid only for the actual article on each president, and not for the list of presidents? FlyingAce (talk) 19:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, FlyingAce, and welcome to the Teahouse. The latter is correct. The photo of a person only comfortably meets WP:NFCC#8 in a biography about that person. Use in a list is almost certainly against WP:NFLISTS. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:48, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@FlyingAce: Additionally, photos of any person still living generally fail WP:NFCC, since a free photo could still be taken (although there may be some exeptions). RudolfRed (talk) 20:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Finnusertop and RudolfRed. That makes sense – most of the ones missing are still alive. I'll see if I can find any photos that meet the free use guidelines then. If I were to use Google Images for the search, I would need to select "Labeled for reuse with modification", correct? FlyingAce (talk) 21:39, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, FlyingAce, but be sure to also check what the exact license on the page containing the image is. And don't be surprised if you don't find any suitable images. My experience with Google's free image search is that the vast majority of results are images that are already on Commons. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:46, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Page not live

Hello I create a page for Derek Velez Partridge an author and film producer/Director and it's not live. Was it created in the wrong place. I can't edit it and had the full name plus the name of the photo. Very confused. How. An I edit and add to the Derek Velez Partridge page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DerekVP (talk • contribs) 21:48, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, DerekVP and welcome to the Teahouse. I don't think the page you are referring to was ever created at all, at least not with your account. Here is a list of all edits you have made: contributions. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:55, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Now I see, you must be referring to this page. Yes, it is a) the wrong place, b) completely unsourced, c) apparently an autobiography, c) probably about a non-notable person. So, it's a no, no, no, no. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 21:58, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

COI notice - how to ethiclally review and remove

An article I posted has been flagged Quad Site (archaeological site) as potential COI. i made a disclosure on the talk page and have requested the user that flagged it to provide more specifics, but they will not reply. I have requested the article be reviewed. I do not want to remove the message without doing all I can to alleviate the concern, so what do I do?ColtsPop (talk) 20:13, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, ColtsPop, and welcome to the Teahouse. It's possible that they just haven't noticed your comments. I'll ping the user to let them know that they are called to discuss the tag: @Jim1138:. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 20:34, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Finnusertop: Thanks Fin, but it's not @Jim1138, I think it is @Melcous.ColtsPop (talk) 22:41, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

You're right, Melcous is the user who initially added the tag. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 22:44, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

How to change the title of a Wikipedia Article?

I am editing an article that should be titled "Central Valley Christian Schools" but the title of the article is "Central Valley Christian High School". Is there a way to change the title to make it more accurate? Williamvb99 (talk) 23:32, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Williamvb99, and welcome to the Teahouse. This is called moving the article. I've done this for you, as very new users don't have the functionality. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 00:18, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you, I really appreciate it! Williamvb99 (talk) 00:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Template maintenence

I want to combine cells in a table on the page New York City English. However, I try to use "rowspan", and I end up with a mess. Does anybody know how I should use "rowspan"? Thank you.LakeKayak (talk) 20:53, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi LakeKayak. I guess it's about the collapsed tables in New York City English#Vowels. Help:Table has some documentation of rowspan but it can be tricky to get right. I often need several previews. I don't know exactly what you want to combine but if you post a diff to an attempt or save it in a sandbox like User:LakeKayak/sandbox then we can probably guess what you want and see what is wrong. You can also describe in words which cells you want to combine. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:23, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

How do I do that?LakeKayak (talk) 00:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@LakeKayak: If you want to post a diff then you first have to save your attempt, and revert it if it damages an article. Then click the "View history" tab, click "prev" at the edit, copy the url from the address bar and save it here. Or instead you can copy the wikisource from the article to User:LakeKayak/sandbox and save your attempt there. That page can always be reached on the "Sandbox" link you probably have at the top of all pages. You could also save your attempt in this section but if it's badly misformatted then it may damage the following sections. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The main body of an article is not cited

Hi, I am editing a page titled "Moros". The main body of the page has no citations, and non of the info can be found online. I have not gone to my local library and researched the deity, so it could be found in a book. So do i delete? Or leave it in case it is from a book? Please help, GrecoRomanNut (talk) 19:47, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, GrecoRomanNut, and welcome to the Teahose. Any information that is uncited, and that you find challengeable in any way, can be removed. Opinions as to whether simply being unsourced is grounds for removing, or do you have to also doubt the neutrality or factuality of the content in order to remove it, vary. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 19:52, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Okay thank you, I will put a template on the page that says that it is uncited until I get to my library, which has a considerable amount of history books. Thank you, Finnusertop for helping and getting back so quickly. GrecoRomanNut (talk) 19:57, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, GrecoRomanNut. The article in question, Moros, has five references, all available online. Therefore, adding a template saying that the article is unreferenced is not appropriate, and so I have removed it. The first step is for you to read the five cited references to see if they support the unreferenced parts of the content. If so, add them to those sections. If not, Template: Citation needed is a better template to use. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:57, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I know. I am aware of the 5 references. But they are all at the very beginning of the article. The "Moros in Mythology" section is unreferenced. I only put that template because that section had no sources. I was just talking about that section, but there was no template for just one section. GrecoRomanNut (talk) 05:05, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

GrecoRomanNut, see Template:Unreferenced section. Also Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup for an overview of Wikipedia's multitude of article improvement templates. StarryGrandma (talk) 06:36, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you GrecoRomanNut (talk) 07:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Temple

i have no documentory evidences please help me my article temple history of sri sengamala nayagi ammman temple, palavangudi. it was very old 400 years back thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yazhini606 (talk • contribs) 11:07, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Yazhini606. I've moved your question to the top (which is where new questions go on this page, but not anywhere else in Wikipedia) and given it a heading.

I'm afraid the answer is that if you haven't any documentary evidence, then we cannot have an article. Where do you know about it? Are there not books or reports or magazines that you have read? They don't have to be online or in English; but they must have been published, by somebody with a reputation for fact-checking. Personal knowledge is not acceptable, because a reader has no way of checking it. Please see WP:42 and WP:IRS. --ColinFine (talk) 23:03, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

yazhini 606 Iam need your help for my article the temple history of sri sengamala nayagi amman temple, palavangudi iam the new creator first time thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yazhini606 (talk • contribs) 11:10, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

iam a new one creator please help me to publish my article THE TEMPLE HISTORY OY SRI SENGAMALA NAYAGI AMMAN TEMPLE, PALAVANGUDI IAM NEW PLEASE HELP — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yazhini606 (talk • contribs) 11:01, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello Yazhini606 and welcome to the Teahouse. I've moved your other questions here to this section. I'm sorry you had so much trouble getting our attention. I hope ColinFine's reply is not too disappointing. jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:03, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia!

If you do not have any answer then its better that you should try to not write it in the article but if you have a spoken or written explanation than feel free to cite it there. Thanks!

Akshitkumarbarnwal31102003 (talk) 09:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

how do i watch videos on wikipedia?

I have a hard time viewing videos and audios, what should I do?Nathan Koata (talk) 12:44, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Could you link to a video you're having a hard time watching? Could you also explain what you mean by a hard time? Does the video work at all? -- Samtar ^{talk · contribs} 12:50, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey there! Watching videos is very ease. Just press the play button. It seems you are having problems with your pc. Try to check it!

Thanks! Akshitkumarbarnwal31102003 (talk) 09:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Not a host?

I had been made host twice but when i relogin the page says to again become a hos. So what`s the problem. Akshitkumarbarnwal31102003 (talk) 09:54, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, and thank you for trying to help. If you were a more experienced editor you would know how to look at the page history of the Wikipedia:Teahouse/Host landing page, and you would see that your name was removed, along with many others, because you do not have the experience to be a host. At present you have 52 edits, 35 of them to articles. The host page now has 30/500 protection to restrict it to editors with more experience. You are, of course, welcome to continue contributing to Wikipedia to build up your experience. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:33, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Reverted Edits? How to cite a source that isn't a website? What to do about outdated sources?

I made a simple update to the article on Clam AntiVirus, and changed the information regarding the amount of virus signatures in the definitions database to the current amount, as well as updated the database "latest version" number on the article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clam_AntiVirus

The information I got is no longer available from the links cited for the original sources, as they are dead links. I got the information from ClamAV on my Linux system, which has the latest database installed. The "freshclam --version" command to prints out the version information, and the number of definitions is stated when you check for updates.

I couldn't find this information on the website anymore, and I don't know how to edit the sources for a non webpage or book souce properly, so I'm not gonna try to. I thought I'd just let it be known that the original reference no longer exists, and I got the updated information from a different source.

TheNH813 (talk) 00:23, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@TheNH813: You could put the information on the page, then put <ref>Retrieved from ClamAV on the [[Linux system]] from [[User:TheNH813]]'s computer.</ref> after the text, saying that you got the information from your computer.

Another way would be to put {{Citation needed|date=February 2017}} after the information put in.

I hope this helps.

Checks Facts _{will happily talk}

00:35, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Checks Facts: Thank you for the information. You have answered my question exactly. TheNH813 (talk) 01:24, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@TheNH813: If the links are dead, you can search for the link on http://archive.org and you may find an archived version of the page being cited. Then you can replace the dead link with the archive link, to fix the problem for future readers. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:28, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

@Anachronist: Good call. I'l look into that.

I have a new question now: Someone reverted my changes saything the the program itself is not a verifiable reference.

01:15, 11 February 2017‎ Ahunt (talk | contribs)‎ . . (18,578 bytes) (+80)‎ . . (Reverted. That is not an acceptable ref, because it cannot be verified. See WP:V and WP:OR. You need a proper ref to change this.) (undo | thank)

Why would the program itself not be considered a verifiable reference? You can get this information out of the source code or the installer packages, or by using a command on the program itself. That is an external reference, and it could be verified by anyone with ClamAV installed, on either Linux, Mac or Windows. Did User:Ahunt not understand my intentions, or did I do something wrong?

TheNH813 (talk) 02:01, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Well, TheNH813, some users don't have the program, for example using a chromebook (as I am) or other device that does not allow that program to be used. You might just have to take a screenshot and upload it to the file wizard.

Checks Facts _{will happily talk}

02:17, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Will do, thanks for the help. I'l make the changes and be careful to cite the references correctly this time. I figured out the links on the other references weren't dead, but lead to a completely different page. Will update them to web.archive.org ones for time period correctness. TheNH813 (talk) 03:46, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, TheNH813. I'm sorry, but I don't think that Checks Facts is giving you good advice. In order to be verifiable, information must be published. The output of a program is not (in general) published, and cannot be used. Uploading a screenshot is probably an infringement of copyright, and in any case may not be used as a reference, because its provenance is untraceable and uncheckable (how can the reader know that it is a genuine screenshot and has not been doctored? That is why we insist on reliable published sources, that is, sources that have a reputation for fact checking). --ColinFine (talk) 00:35, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@ColinFine: I'v been trying to find an external source that isn't a screenshot or inside the definition files (which you'd need to open in a appropriate text or hex editor to view). The ClamAV website dosen't mention it anywhere, unlike it did for the original numbers from quite a few years ago that I updated. Also note, the screenshot would be public domain, no copyright issues. Both the terminal emulator application (XFCE4 Terminal) and ClamAV antivirus are both GPL (GPLv3 to be specific I think) licensed. But yes, I'v been reading the Wikipedia guidelines a bit more after the second time it was changed. This time around User:Ahunt left the updated information I put, as I at least attempted to cite a source, and they marked it as "needs citation". That was a red flag to me I was doing something wrong (two reverted/modified edits), and i'l respect the current state as is, and not perform any further edits as of now. At least until I have figured out a good external reference to replace the "needs citation" with. If I don't find a source, or it's never cited, I shall completely leave it alone if that happens. TheNH813 (talk) 07:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@TheNH813: Sorry for giving you the wrong info. Still learning here.

Checks Facts _{will happily talk}

11:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@ColinFine: Thanks for pointing this out. I'm still learning the mechanics of Wikipedia, so your post has helped me as well. I apologize for giving TheNH813 the wrong information.

Checks Facts _{will happily talk}

11:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

What Hapens after a page is edited

I submitted my draft for 'Lancelot Cooper' on 4th Feb but after it was given several minor edits it has remained untouched with the standard notice about being patient at the top. It is now over a week since submitted and I wonder what happens next. My editor stated that it needs to be 'curated' whatever that means. It is a bit frustrating given the hard work I have put into the article Alantaylor17 (talk) 14:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey Alantaylor17. Articles for creation currently has a backlog of about 600 unreviewed drafts, so it is really just a matter of being patient. AfC is a good way for newer users to get feedback on their article prior to publication, and also to protect articles that still need a little work, from being nominated for deletion. However, if your first few articles sail through AfC without any problems, then you are probably safe to start skipping the process all together and start publishing them directly.

I would only note that, reading through your draft, there are a few places where you...kindof...start to write as a writer rather than writing as an encyclopedia. So for example, "describe in some detail" is a phrase that would be perfectly appropriate if you were writing a chapter in a book, since it expresses more-or-less the author's opinion on the source in question. But, it's not really the way that an encyclopedia should write about something, since an encyclopedia is really supposed to be kindof a "neutral-editorial-robot" (my own words) and report just the bare facts, and as much as possible do so without weighing in on how they feel about what the sources say. TimothyJosephWood 15:04, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

deleted article

Please inform me why my page/article about Branko Sotirovski is constantly deleting. I tried to follow your rules, i've deleted some adverting and promotion material, and leave only raw material, and my article is constantly getting messages that has been deleted. what should i do? Branko1Sotirovski (talk) 15:22, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey Branko1Sotirovski. It looks like it was deleted for being overtly promotional, but also because it did not make a credible claim of significance. In order for a person to have their own article on Wikipedia, they need to meet our standards for notability. If a person does not yet meet those standards, then it is probably too soon for them to have their own article.

Additionally, editors are strongly discouraged from writing autobiographical articles, since it is exceptionally difficult to write an article on yourself in a way that satisfies our policies on neutrality. If a person is indeed notable,then they will likely eventually have an article written about them, since we have thousands of volunteers writing new articles every day. But as an individual, your job is simple to be notable, and the article will eventually follow. TimothyJosephWood 15:38, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Is my old account considered a sockpuppet?

I created an account a long time ago, that I used for like 1 day, but forgot the password. It's completely inactive, but I created another account (my current one). So, is this sockpuppetry? NewByzantine (talk) 16:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey NewByzantine. In short, no. Policy doesn't prohibit the existence of multiple accounts, but rather the misuse of those accounts. Like yourself, I also have an old abandoned account. Many others have alternate accounts for various reasons, such as a pseudonymous account for editing in sensitive areas, for those who use their real name for their main account; accounts for testing purposes; or accounts for sometimes purely comedic reasons. As long as you're not using multiple accounts for some nefarious reason, you're just fine. TimothyJosephWood 16:56, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

That is very cool. I may even decide that I've got strong enough masochistic tendencies to create one and sign up for new page patrol! DennisPietras (talk) 17:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The official policy is at Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:39, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Inclusion of day of the week in dates

What is the WP standard?Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 02:11, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Almost never done. Welcome to the Teahouse, Srednaus Lenoroc. jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 03:20, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Then what is the reasoning for when it does appear in WP?Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 04:07, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi, Srednaus Lenoroc. If you look at WP:DATES (which is part of Wikipedia's Manual of Style), it lists all the acceptable date formats - none of them includes the day of the week. Having said that, if there was a situation where the day was especially significant to the meaning of the article, I would probably add it - but that's just me. Did you have a specific situation in mind where you were considering using the weekday? --Gronk Oz (talk) 05:08, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Srednaus Lenoroc. Please see the disambiguation pages Black Friday and Bloody Sunday for lists of many articles about events where the day of the week was an important element of their notability. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:06, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

There are also likely many articles in which days of the week appear because they were added by editors who didn't realize they weren't needed, or because an editor copied the dates from source articles and didn't remove the included day of the week. I usually remove these when I see them. Even in cases where the day of the week is important, most often the importance is explained in the text of the article, and the referenced sources aren't necessarily created the same day as an event happens anyway.—Anne Delong (talk)

Black Friday and Bloody Sunday brings up a somewhat different issue--they would not be examples of day of the week (DOTW) as they are titles but as they identify the DOTW it would be superfluous having already establishing DOTW when mentioning it to include in a date for the event to include the DOTW. But then when situating a subsequent event should the text be solely by DOTW, the date or both?Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 12:45, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

One place it is not okay to remove days of the week is within quotations. jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 14:53, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Could someone explain to me the following style: "Jammu division with all districts (red font) and sub-districts, as on Nov 2012. Only Indian-administered areas shown."Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 18:50, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Referencing, published books of subject, notability

The person I am creating one for (Dr. Robert L. Zorn) has published many books and I have referenced notable ones to the book sites on Google Books...is this all I need to do or is this not enough for it to be listed? A received a comment from a review saying "Unless there's major book reviews, he's not satisfying our standard" Does this mean that even if it is a published book it may not be able to be listed? ThanksKatebech32 (talk) 17:29, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Katebech32. For Draft:Dr. Robert L. Zorn to be accepted, you need to demonstrate that he (or his work) has been the subject of coverage in independent sources (rather than just the author of sources such as books). See Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything on this. Cordless Larry (talk) 19:08, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Adding a new term to wikipedia with references. Can anyone help me to improve?

Hi there, I just added https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assessment_culture to Wikipedia and I included a bunch of references. Can anyone please help me to improve this post? I realize that I have used a lot of print references and only a few web references. thank you! Radditor (talk) 19:21, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

(a) You've written a dictionary entry not an encyclopedia entry, (b) you need to use secondary sources not primary sources and (c) when citing a book you need to give page numbers. More specifically you need to differentiate it from organisational culture and differentiate 'culture of assessment' from 'assessment culture' 130.195.253.79 (talk) 19:32, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Edit problem

I made an update on the Slate Creek records page and no it shows a cite error. I have spent over an hour trying to figure it out with no luck. Could you help?27raccoons (talk) 20:31, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Sure, 27raccoons, and welcome to the Teahouse. I removed an empty ref tag, that was it. Drop by again, if you need more help. — Sam Sailor 20:41, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Never any original work?

My Law of Omnificence is the unification of nuclear forces the quantum and more than the Grand Unification or Theory of Everything. It literally explains everything. I'm shocked that my draft was declined due to it being original work. Are you sure Wikipedia doesn't want to be the publisher of this? Last chance type thingOmnificence (talk) 17:40, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes. TimothyJosephWood 17:42, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Omnificence. Please read Wikipedia:No original research, which is a core content policy. In order for a theory about physics to be described in Wikipedia, that theory must have been published elsewhere and then discussed extensively in peer-reviewed physics journals. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:01, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Grammar ?

Could someone explain to me the following style for a caption: "Jammu division with all districts (red font) and sub-districts, as on Nov 2012. Only Indian-administered areas shown."Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 20:09, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Srednaus Lenoroc, and welcome! Where do you see this? — Sam Sailor 20:46, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

It is in Jammu Division#Districts.Eddie Blick (talk) 21:25, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I do not remember off hand but I changed it to "in" for the date and the person said that it was good faith something or other when they reverted it. It is a caption for a map.Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 21:40, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

You were reverted because you changed the wording of a filename, Srednaus Lenoroc, and there's no such file as File:Jammu division with districts as of November 2012.pdf. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:45, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Yes, but the caption remains wrong.Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

That's a good reason to fix the grammar of the caption then, without breaking the filename. Cordless Larry (talk) 21:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

I just edited the caption, Srednaus Lenoroc, as you could also have done. There is nothing wrong with editing the caption, but changing the file name in the article without actually moving (renaming) the file itself stops the image from displaying. I am sure that was not what you intended. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 21:52, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

So the reverting editor was too lazy to do the correction?Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 21:55, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@Srednaus Lenoroc: in all likelihood they simply noticed that the file name was incorrect, and so corrected the file name. They did not realize that your intention had been to modify the caption. -Darouet (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

So they made a move without understanding the whole situation?Srednaus Lenoroc (talk) 22:19, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Really, the onus is on you to not make mistakes when editing, rather than on others to try to work out what your intention was. If you do make a mistake, another editor is perfectly entitled to revert you. Cordless Larry (talk) 22:28, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

How can I bookmark pages?

I was wondering if there was a simple way to save pages for personal reference. For example I am learning french I was wondering if I could save the french IPA page in a folder of french "notes". I came across a page suggesting the user page could fulfill this purpose, but am worried someone could vandalize it. Sorry for the dumb question I'm new around here.

Pandagod2025 (talk) 19:02, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Dear Pandagod2025, welcome to the Teahouse. Wikipedia is not meant for keeping your own references. This is better done on your own computer. However, any lists you want to make that can help improve Wikipedia are allowed. You can make such a list on your user page or a subpage of your user page (example sub page User:Pandagod2025/list). Other people generally do not edit your user page. All versions of a page are always stored in the history of the page. Any vandalisme can be undone. I hope this answers your question. Sincerely, Taketa (talk) 19:10, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Pandagod2025. While I agree with Taketa that storing bookmarks on your own computer makes sense, there may be reasons to store them in Wikipedia (eg if you use several different devices), and it seems to me that there are several heads of WP:UPYES which allow you to keep them on your user page (or a user subpage). --ColinFine (talk) 22:40, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

How to transfer an article from German Wikipedia?

Dear Wikipedia experts,

can you tell me: are there any Special issues with transfering an article, which I wrote some time ago on German Wikipedia into English Wikipedia?

Would be glad to get some advice! Thanks!

Paddy Pillow (talk) 15:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey Paddy Pillow. There's nothing wrong with translating pages over from non-English projects. In fact, it's a really great way to contribute content, especially in niche subject areas. However, you should include Template:Translated page on the talk of the new article, so that contributions from others can be properly attributed. This is kindof a technical legalistic thing, since the way that content on Wikipedia is licensed, requires that reuse or modification of content includes attribution to Wikipedia. So in this case, you're attributing yourself, which you don't totally have to do, but you are also allowing for attribution of anyone else who may have contributed to the German article, which is required. TimothyJosephWood 15:31, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

There's one thing I would add to Timothyjosephwood's advice, Paddy Pillow: each Wikipedia is independent, with its own rules and policies. Don't assume that because an article, or some text in an article, is acceptable in dewiki, that its translation is automatically acceptable in enwiki: the criteria for notability, or the judgment of a source as reliable, could be different. In fact, some things come down to consensus, and the consensus of editors might happen to be different. Your translated article will be treated like any other new article. --ColinFine (talk) 22:50, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

FATA REFORMS

FATA should merge in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa or Should create a self Province? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Junaidwazir (talk • contribs) 16:54, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Junaidwazir. I'm afraid you are at the wrong place for that kind of question. This page is for help in editing Wikipedia - nothing else; but nowhere in Wikipedia will you get answers to questions about what should happen. You need to find a relevant forum to ask a question like that. --ColinFine (talk) 22:58, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Organizational market

An organizational market comprises all the individual and companies which purchase goods and service for some use other than,personal consumption.105.112.33.0 (talk) 21:30, 11 February 2017 (UTC)Success .E.

What is your question about editing Wikipedia? --ColinFine (talk) 22:59, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Find Articles to Edit

What is the best way for me to find articles that need editing, sources, etc. that I feel comfortable and would enjoy editing?

Kayenel (talk) 00:31, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome! Articles that need editing for a specific reason can be found at WP:CLEANUP; as for articles that need sources, try Category:Articles needing additional references. You may also want to visit WikiProject Citation cleanup if you want to work with other editors to clean up citations. Hope that helped! MereTechnicality ⚙ 00:49, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Kayenel and welcome to the Teahouse. I posted a Welcome message on your talkpage, a TWA invite, and a {{Resources for collaboration}}. If you need more help just drop by again. — Sam Sailor 00:56, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

You might also look at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory for topic areas in which you are interested. The activity level varies from topic to topic, but within a topic area you can find other Wikipedia editors who share your interest.Eddie Blick (talk) 01:33, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Blocked

Blocked on Wikimedia? How do I resovle that? Bri39 ({{User talk:Bri39|talk]]) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bri39 (talk • contribs) 22:55, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Bri39, and welcome to the Teahouse. I can't see any trace of you being blocked. Where are you seeing that? --Gronk Oz (talk) 23:38, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Special:CentralAuth/Bri39 shows a block at MediaWiki.org. Most users never edit there anyway. Can you just ignore it? PrimeHunter (talk) 23:49, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

@PrimeHunter YES!

Bri39 (talk) 06:25, 13 February 2017 (UTC)Bri39

Notability criteria

Hi! I am interested in upload an article about a US furniture company. I was reviewing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Article_wizard/Company_notability, and it says that the company must be "listed on ranking indices of important companies produced by well-known and independent publications". The company has appeared in The Prime Buyer's Report as "The TOP 10 Furniture Stores in Prince George's County MD"; is it enough to meet that premise? Thank you!Ane wiki (talk) 07:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Ane wiki. In all honesty, I doubt it. I think that national corporate listings by major business publications like Forbes, Fortune and the Wall Street Journal would qualify. A countywide listing of local furniture stores would not, in my opinion. Although it is not impossible for a local business to be notable, most experienced editors expect more than routine local coverage at the county level. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much!--Ane wiki (talk) 08:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Cullen328: why does the Wizard present us with criteria that's not part of the notability guideline Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies)? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 09:16, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

It's totally unacceptable that the article wizard is presenting false notability criteria to newbies. The article wizard's guidelines should a strictly verbatim copy of the proper Notability standards (in this case WP:CORP), not some nonsensical thumbsuck. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:27, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Sites for review/verification?

After receiving valuable feedback here I have been working more on the two pages: Dreaming of Denmark and Michael Graversen. Making them more neutral and finding correct citations/quotes. Are they ok to send for review/verification? KlausJensen (talk) 15:13, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

There is no process which you need to go through to "send" them for review/verification. Those 2 pages, along with nearly 15 thousand others, are listed at Special:NewPagesFeed awaiting the attention of the limited number of editors with the "new page patrol" user right. The backlog is currently about 4 months and increasing, but if you are lucky they may be patrolled earlier. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:58, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. So as I understand you I wait and within 4 months the page will automatically be looked at and if verified it will start to appear in google searches? Is the page ok now that I have been working with it from the feedback I got here? KlausJensen (talk) 10:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Don Gregorio Anón

Hi and thank you for your assistance.

The article I recently finished was deleted. Could you please allow me you input in how to make eligible for inclusion. As I am new to your site, I could really use your guidance to see if I am up to the challenge of contributing further information on those artists who have influenced and supported me.

Thank you!

BLAN-JU (talk) 15:51, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

The process for this is described at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion. 130.195.253.79 (talk) 19:33, 12 February 2017 (UTC)

(The above is probably misleading, since the editor is not asking for undeletion, but for reasons as to why it was deleted in the first place) BLAN-JU, as the speedy deletion notice at the top of Draft:Don Gregorio Antón tells you, the current deletion proposition is based on copyright violations; i.e., you copied and pasted non-free material into the text, rather than formulating the text yourself. Further, and although not specifically noted there, the current draft is both very promotional in nature, and mostly unreferenced. Either of these would probably prevent its acceptance, even if the copyright issues are cleared up. I suggest you take a look at other well-developed articles about contemporary artists on Wikipedia (randomly sampled, Pina Bausch, Carol M. Highsmith, Carolyn Cole), and take note of the tone and level of referencing used there. -- Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:58, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Pageviews?

Is there any way to see the number of pageviews an article has over time, on-site or off-site? The Verified Cactus 100% 02:49, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to the Teahouse, VerifiedCactus. Yes there is. Click on "Page information" in the sidebar when reading an article, and you'll see [Information for "Cactus"]. Scroll all the way down and click on Page view statistics. You can also access the page view tool directly at this location: Page views. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 03:34, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch! The Verified Cactus 100% 04:04, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@VerifiedCactus: The link is also at the top of the page history. You can add it under "Tools" in the left pane with this in your common JavaScript:

importScript('User:PrimeHunter/Pageviews.js'); // Linkback: [[User:PrimeHunter/Pageviews.js]]

PrimeHunter (talk) 12:16, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

How to upload a picture in an article?

Laser Victor 2017 (talk) 09:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Laser Victor 2017. What picture? More important, where does it come from? It is critically important that the copyright status of the picture is acceptable: see WP:Image use policy. if you took it yourself, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons (see Help:Upload) and then use it in the article. If you didn't, it can be a tedious process determining its copyright, and in many cases it may not be used at all. --ColinFine (talk) 12:32, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Citation of biographical information

For biographical articles, often secondary sources don't list basic information such as date of birth, place of birth, parents' names, date of death, etc. However, that type of information is publicly available in various public records and in, for example, ancestry.com. How should such sources of basic biographical information be cited, if they are acceptable as citations? Thank you. Nolabob (talk) 14:57, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey Nolabob. Per this discussion, it looks like there is a fair bit of consensus that Ancestry.com is generally not to be treated as a reliable source, since it hosts user submitted content, and may interpret primary sources with little oversight or expertise. However, as is pointed out in that thread, it can be used to find other sources. So for example, having a pretty good idea that someone's death date is one of two or three days, can go a long way in narrowing a search so that source will be easier to find. Also, if Ancestry.com links to public records, it is likely that those records themselves may be usable, but without linking to or really relying on Ancestry.com in the Wikipedia article itself. TimothyJosephWood 15:15, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Wanna improve my article

Hello.. I want to improve my article by adding References & External links but I don't know how to do it.. is there anyone for help me by add this links please ?

References links : - http://wikimapia.org/1938243/Tirap-Colliery - http://www.neccoal.co.in/tirap.php

External links : - https://www.telegraphindia.com/1160226/jsp/northeast/story_71330.jsp - http://www.sentinelassam.com/state1/story.php?sec=2&subsec=2&id=297440&dtP=2017-02-07&ppr=1 - https://www.telegraphindia.com/1080205/jsp/northeast/story_8861508.jsp Ainul.Axom (talk) 10:18, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Ainul.Axom, and welcome to the Teahouse. References should be your number one priority at this stage. Instructions are here: Help:Referencing for beginners. Wikimapia, however, is not an acceptable reference. It's not a reliable source because it's, as the name suggests, a wiki. Wikis are self-published rather than written by professional staff under professional editorial oversight. – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 10:22, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I don't understand what did you say ! Ainul.Axom (talk) 10:30, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Ainul.Axom, it is the same situation as us not being allowed to use Wikipedia as a source. Anyone can edit and therefore we cannot trust what can be added by any editor. Someone in the mainstrame media must first publish whatever we use. The publishing company and the writers fact-check for accuracy. We only try to catch vandalism, but not check every edit for truth. Fylbecatulous talk 15:17, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

I am a social studies teacher and need a Wikipedia Contribution Mentor

I am a Vermont 7-12 social studies teacher and need a Wikipedia Contribution Mentor to help me get my user page and first few articles published.

PoorRicardo (talk) 14:08, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey PoorRicardo. I'm sure there are plenty of people here willing to lend a hand if you have specific questions. Probably a good place to start would be reading our tutorial on writing your first article or trying out our interactive tutorial at The Wikipedia Adventure. TimothyJosephWood 14:47, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi PoorRicardo. I sometimes help out new editors here, and with over 100 articles I know something about writing them. ☺ I'd be happy to help you if you like. Just leave a message on my talk page. White Arabian Filly ^Neigh 15:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Disruptive Edits

Dear all One editor DMacks continuously deletes list of former Managing directors of utility Stores Corporation without any reason. He also sent me warning message. How can I stop him from making such type of changes? Best wishes Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 04:01, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

User:Aftabbanoori - This is a content dispute and should be discussed on the article talk page. I do not see any discussion on the article talk page. However, you are edit-warring, and other editors think that your edits are non-encyclopedic. My first thought is that they appear to be promotional rather than neutral. Discuss on the article talk page. Robert McClenon (talk) 04:23, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Aftabbanoori. You have been trying to add an unreferenced list of 22 executives. You need to do two things. You need to convince other editors that this list belongs in an an encyclopedia article. And you need to provide a reference. As a matter of fact, Utility Stores Corporation is filled with unreferenced content that is subject to removal for that reason, so I suggest that you start with that. Please also be aware that edit warring is not allowed. Get consensus before adding back that list. please. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:29, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Dear Cullen328

Utility Stores Corporation is state owned organisation, unfortunately I am unable to add references.

When MD is changed newspapers and TVs broadcast the name of new MD, from there i added the name of current MD.

I respect Wikipedeia policy

Aftab Banoori ^(Talk) 16:05, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Uploading images.

Hi all! I would like to know how to find out whether or not a picture is copyrighted, so I can add it to a wikipedia page. Thanks! Bedsidelamp (talk) 16:40, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey Bedsidelamp. The answer to your question depends entirely on what particular picture you are considering. TimothyJosephWood 16:49, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

(e/c)

@Bedsidelamp: hello and welcome to the teahouse. If you took a photograph yourself, you can upload it to Wikimedia Commons. If you did not take the image, it is probably under copyright restrictions, and cannot be uploaded. Sometimes there are photographs that have been released under special licenses that can be used, or there are images for which copyright has expired. For more information, you can consult Wikipedia's image use policy: WP:Image use policy. Did you have a particular image or article in mind? I hope that helps! -Darouet (talk) 16:50, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Darouet

I do have an image in mind, here's the link (of the firearm) : http://www.serbu.com/bfg-50-single-shot-50-bmg.html

Hope this helps! Bedsidelamp (talk) 16:54, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

@Bedsidelamp: I am almost certain you would not be able to use that image. However, if you found a photograph of the firearm taken by an employee of the US military while on duty, it might be possible that such an image could be used. -Darouet (talk) 17:04, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

citations, language and specific section

Does anyone have time to take a look at Dreaming of Denmark - especially the section about "reception and impact" - is this ok? And is the overall language and citations for the article ok? KlausJensen (talk) 10:26, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey KlausJensen. Reading over the article, I would say that the reception section probably relies a bit too heavily on lengthy quotations. If you do have a list of many quotations from and about the film, it may be appropriate to start a Wikiquote page, and link to that from the article here. But overall, Wikipedia entries are more supposed to summarize what people said, and use quotes sparingly and in situations where the speaker and what is spoken is singularly relevant or insightful.

Other than that it looks like you still need a few citations under awards. Since awards are unambiguous statements of fact that are by their nature, likely to be challenged, they should include sources for where the information comes from. Hope this helps some. TimothyJosephWood 15:23, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you very much Timothy. I will erase some of the quotes and see if that helps. Regarding the awards the ones that are not citations are in the text above. I have not put it in in order not to have it twice. Does that make sense?KlausJensen (talk) 15:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey KlausJensen. For guidance on how to reuse sources in articles, see WP:REFNAME. TimothyJosephWood 16:47, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! KlausJensen (talk) 17:33, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Upload image from Thai Wikipedia

How can i upload an image from the Thai wikipedia to the English wikipedia? The image is this one: https://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%9F%E0%B8%A5%E0%B9%8C:%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%A1%E0%B9%80%E0%B8%94%E0%B9%87%E0%B8%88%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B0%E0%B8%AA%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%87%E0%B8%86%E0%B8%A3%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%8A_(%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B1%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%9E%E0%B8%A3_%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%A1%E0%B8%BA%E0%B8%9E%E0%B9%82%E0%B8%A3).jpg

Thanks, --S Khemadhammo (talk) 06:07, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hey S Khemadhammo. Since the image appears to be copyrighted, uploading it to Wikipedia would require that it could be used in accordance with our policies on non-free content. This does not currently seem feasible for two reasons:

We do not currently appear to have an article on the subject, and non-free content on Wikipedia that is not currently used in any article is subject to deletion.
There appears to be alternative images on their Thai article that are licensed for free use, which would mean that the image you would like to upload would fail requirement one, since there would be a free equivalent available.

Sorry to disappoint, but hopefully this helps. TimothyJosephWood 15:07, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. If any image would not violate any copyrights on the Thai Wikipedia, or on any other language Wikipedia, how would you import it or use it on the English Wikipedia? I am aware of copyright policies, but my question does not only concern this particular picture.--S Khemadhammo (talk) 18:00, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello @S Khemadhammo:, it is generally recommended that such free files are uploaded directly to Commons (a separate sister project, that hosts most freely licensed media visible in Wikipedia articles), not to en-Wiki itself. Files on Commons can be accessed by various Wikipedia projects, so it's no longer necessary to upload them multiple times. Some guidance about transferring files to Commons is detailed at Wikipedia:Moving files to Commons. Disclaimer: The linked page is focussing on en-Wiki to Commons transfers, but most of it's advice should be applicable for transfers from other Wikis to Commons as well. The linked page also includes a list of similar guidance pages in other Wikis, listed under "Languages" in the toolbar (including a Thai version apparently). GermanJoe (talk) 18:19, 13 February 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, @GermanJoe:! S Khemadhammo (talk) 18:37, 13 February 2017 (UTC)