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March 15

Question about Romani people

Moved from User talk:Isabelle Belato

Hello. Can I please obtain information about the following aspects: - reason why the initial term Roma, used to describe this ethnic group was replaced in this article with the term Romani - what was the methodology and criteria used to undergo such important change and when this process happened: - who from the Roma community were actually consulted on this matter and how public and transparent the process was in this regard. Thank you! --dandoghi (talk) 18:25, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello, this doesn’t really seem a question for a reference, but is about how Wikipedia works, so the Wikipedia:Help_desk might be where you really need to ask. But I know it’s frustrating to be sent one place after another, so here are some links; perhaps you can look them over and then approach the Help Desk. I think the policy you are asking about may be at Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Identity. It means that Wikipedia uses the term used in mainstream newspapers and books. The reasons for why are in Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_extended_FAQ. The discussion that led to those decisions is harder to find, but you could start by putting your search terms in the “search archives” box at Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style. Wikipedia policies are a labyrinth! 70.67.193.176 (talk) 21:35, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Which article is referred to in the question by "this article"?  --Lambiam 23:56, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Seemingly Romani people, an article that was moved from Roma people on 25 Apr 2007 and User:Dandoghi would like to shift it back ([1]). --Pp.paul.4 (talk) 09:01, 16 March 2022 (UTC)

A specific issue with the term Roma is that it has two different senses. In a broad sense, it is synonymous with Romani. In another, narrow but fairly common sense, it is restricted to Romani groups in Eastern Europe. In the common collocation "Sinti and Roma",^[2] it has the narrow sense. The Sinti are a Romani people, but they do not refer to themselves as a group, or to the wider group, as R(r)om(a). A discussion can be found in the book We are the Romani People.^[3]  --Lambiam 10:19, 16 March 2022 (UTC)