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April 13

Canada's two original six franchises, their cities, provinces, and their success before/between/after the expansion

How come Canadiens/Montreal/Quebec are more successful then their Maple Leafs/Toronto/Ontario counterparts are though out their histories?

I for one I'm really interested in knowing more about it for quite some time now. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mybodymyself (talk • contribs) 00:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Because Montreal had better players and coaches. Per List of Montreal Canadiens award winners and List of Toronto Maple Leafs award winners, as just one example, the Habs have had 16 Hart Trophies awarded to their players (regular season MVP). The Leafs have had 2. Other than the Calder Trophy (awarded to Rookies), the Canadiens dominate all of the other player awards. Better players and better coaches leads to more success. --Jayron32 01:26, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

That's the rational answer. However, hockey history is rife with superstition and symbols. A durable rocket or a crashed donut?

A more commonly accepted Leafs curse was popularized in "Fifty Mission Cap". InedibleHulk (talk) 05:01, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

If Montreal is terrible, people will stop coming and the team will lose money and may be forced to move...well, that was the case in the 30s and 40s anyway. If the Leafs are terrible, people will still fill the seats and the owners will make billions of dollars no matter what. Toronto sucks because it has no reason not to. Adam Bishop (talk) 08:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Montreal would need to be really, really awful for people to stop coming to the games. The fan base there is just as irrational as the Leafs', they just have had better teams to cheer for (and for the past 20 years, since Montreal won its last Stanley Cup in 1993, the two franchises are largely indistinguishable in terms of success on the ice). One factor that was important until the start of the 1970s however, was that Montreal got first dibs on all the best French-Canadian players coming into the pros, and used that advantage to build very powerful teams. --Xuxl (talk) 08:23, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

To be fair, Montreal still typically makes the playoffs. That distinguishes the two, Cups aside. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:34, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Links to U2 fanfiction

My understanding of fanfiction is that it's supposed to be available for general consumption. Can anyone find links that I can access for the U2 fanfiction "Mysterious Ways" and "Lost Highway" so I can email it to a friend with limited web access? Thanks. (PS, I have found stuff, and it raises all sorts of warnings on my browser.) μηδείς (talk) 02:41, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

There seems to be a lot of stuff at www.fanfiction.net titled "Mysterious Ways" and it does not appear to have any warnings in the browser (but I'm not on Windows). However, I'm not sure if there is a connection to U2 as there seems to be mentions of "sparkles" and "vampires". CBWeather, Talk, Seal meat for supper? 14:05, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Lol, I also found Twilight fan fic with those titles. And extra googling just found this question. Are you sure it's fanfic about U2, and not fanfic that just uses u2 lyrics/titles? Of course author info would help too. But if perchance your are interested in fanfic about Roy Orbison and terrapins, that is rather easy to find [1]. SemanticMantis (talk) 14:47, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

I personally am not really sure of anything here. The question is being passed on for another person without access to the internet. My understanding from communication is they have definitely found some U2 fanfiction under these names, and believe there is more. μηδείς (talk) 03:18, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

Meatloaf songs unavailable

Why are Meatloaf's songs Bad Attitude and Nowhere Fast unavailable in iTunes and Spotify?68.117.161.44 (talk) 03:42, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

How many pages are in category Category:Films_by_decade_of_setting ?

How many pages are in the category https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Films_by_decade_of_setting ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matt me (talk • contribs) 18:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia:CatScan is a utility you should be able to use to find this out... --Jayron32 00:06, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

None. It's full of other categories. But Jayron's suggestion of using CatScan will tell you that drilling down a maximum of 5 categories (I just picked that number semi-randomly) there are 6899 articles under that parent category in various child categories. Dismas|^(talk) 13:15, 14 April 2014 (UTC)