Wikipedia:Peer review/List of cetaceans/archive1

List of cetaceans edit

I just made this list of all of the known cetacean species. Would anyone be able to give any feedback on anything I could do to it. In particular any extra fields in the table that could be added. Thanks, Chris_huhtalk 11:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I would like to see all the falmily divisions talk about why they are different from the other family in the subgenera. This is currently hit-or-miss.
  • Link the lower level list in a hat note like you link main articles not in "See also". Then kill the "See also" Completely as the other article is linked in the introduction.
  • Be clear about where the cut-off for inclusion on this list is. I imagine you are excluding extinct species but there are species listed with no data on their status. So I am not sure.
  • Fix the heading levels so that there is room for the Superfamily
  • I am unsure why you are abbrevating some of the Status labels. It makes sense in an infobox that is part of an article but on a list I would spell it out.

Overall I think the list has a good amount of information and besides fixing the above points it only needs have the referencing completeled. You might consider listing mass along with the picture at size as there appears to be room. Another suggestion is to arrange the species within a family by population numbers so that the reader finds the most common first.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 18:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Good points. I will work on those, just one thing, what exactly do you mean by:
Link the lower level list in a hat note like you link main articles not in "See also". Then kill the "See also" Completely as the :other article is linked in the introduction.
I guess you mean put the List of whale species, etc. as Main article: links under the respective headings. The only problem with that is that Whales are not monophyletic so will not fit under one easy heading. I can try to work around that, if that is what you meant. Or do you mean using the <ref> tag to put the List of... links in the Notes and references section? Chris_huhtalk 13:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That is what I meant. I don't know exactly how hard it would be but if it is more than one hatnote I still think it would a better placement than See also.--Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 00:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, i have gone through and i think i have covered all of that. Sorry, i didn't realise that those things were called hatnotes - now i do. How is that now? Chris_huhtalk 12:32, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heading levels still need fixing. Look at the TOC and you will see the problem where Superfamily is on the same level as earlier famlies which are on a higher level then families under the Superfamily.
  • Some links need fixing either they should be linked to a more detailed article or unlinked or made to be a red-link to what the needed article name should be. In the lead: fluke. In Family - Balaenidae (Right Whales): Rostrum. You need to check all the links for these issues. Also if you read through the prose intros you will see the linking is quite inconsistant about what is linked and what is not.
  • I also noticed the prose often say things like "slower" "shorter" etc. without clarifing what it is slower or shorter than.
  • The inclusion criteria is better but still not completely clear. In addition, numerous species of extinct cetaceans exist in Archaeoceti (the ancient whales), but they are not listed here. That makes it sound like only Archaeoceti are not included instead of all extinct Cetaceans.
  • River Dolphin famillies still are missing prose.

This is coming along nicely! If you don't understand the heading level thing let me know and I can fix it for you. --Birgitte§β ʈ Talk 18:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about the lack of work, i have been busy and havent had time to contribute a great deal. I am not sure how to fix the headings, so if you could ahve a look that would be great. I understand the problem but don't know the solution. I think i have removed or fixed links so that they take you to the correct pages. I could probably add some information about the different river dolphin families but since they each contain one species the main differences between the families are location, which didn't seem very useful to add since the location is given away by the name already. Could you give me an example of where the prose uses 'slower' and such, i must have missed them. I will check on these things soon, but as i say i am a bit busy. Chris_huhtalk 02:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]