Wikipedia:Peer review/Koninginnedag/archive1

Koninginnedag edit

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because… I plan to nom it for FA in due course, I want to ensure it meets the criteria, and two words: ORANGE BEER!!! I need say no more.

Thanks, Wehwalt (talk) 13:26, 6 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Tim riley

What a delightful article! I had no idea. A few very minor points:

  • General
    • Capitalisation of royal ranks – you sometimes write (e.g.) "On the princess's 1890 accession", and "the new queen decided", and sometimes "the Queen's son", and "an opportunity for the Queen". Consistency wanted.
For a monarch or head of state or government, I will capitalize when it refers to the incumbent at the time, and it is unmodified. That's my rule of thumb. --Wehwalt (talk) 10:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Lead
    • "the final day of school summer vacation … popular among children" – how odd! I seem to recall dreading the last day of the summer vac when I was a lad.
I was puzzled by this too. Labor Day was always either the last day or next to last day of summer vacation, and I do not regard it fondly.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • "the normally staid Dutch" – if you don't put a cite there you'll get a complaint from the Netherlands Staid Association or some such.
Yeah, you caught me. I was hoping to get away with a little characterization there. I will either cite that or put it in the body. Is there objection to the entire sentence, or just to the staid bit?--Wehwalt (talk) 10:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I think just saying that the Dutch let their hair down (orange dye and all) would be unobjectionable, surely? Tim riley (talk) 17:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wilhelmina
    • "mussed" – I see the article is otherwise written in British English, in which the word "mussed" is unknown ("dishevelled" or some such would fit).
    • "her silver jubilee in 1923, which saw massive celebrations" – some pedantic souls (not me) get exercised about this construction, observing that years (or jubilees) cannot see. There's another such "saw" in the Juliana section, too. Be prepared for sniping at FAC.
  • Beatrix
    • "dampened by an alcohol ban" – a surprising verb for a dry event.
It's a joke. The article is written in a lighthearted way, and there are a couple of mildly humourous notes in it.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:53, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it might be. But beware of "normally staid" FAC reviewers! Tim riley (talk) 17:19, 16 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • "canceled" – "cancelled" if this is in UK English.
  • Festivities
    • "A major concert" – never in B minor or F sharp major? A different adjective might avoid the musical ambiguity.

That's my lot. I should think this article will please a good many people when it makes it to the front page. – Tim riley (talk) 08:34, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think so too. Thanks for the comments. I'll work through them. It's going to FAC as soon as Jefferson nickel clears the page. Glad you enjoyed it.--Wehwalt (talk) 10:44, 10 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Question: What will the day be called when the Prince of Orange succeeds to the throne (which may be quite soon as Beatrix is over 70 and Dutch monarchs have a habit of abdicating around that age)? Just wondering. Brianboulton (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

They haven't said, but that's why I included his birthday. King's Day would be Koningsdag. But Willem-Alexander could keep it as Queen's Day in honor of his mother, who knows?--Wehwalt (talk) 00:47, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]