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George Liquor edit

This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because it failed the previous GA nomination and I want to see if anything else is wrong.

Thanks, Gak Blimby (talk) 00:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ruhrfsich comments: Since this has had a failed GA review, I would treat that as a very detailed peer review as well. Most of the issues raised in it were still present - here are my suggestions for improvement:

  • A model article is always useful for ideas and style - I see that Aang is a GA about a character from a cartoon and may be useful as a model.
  • Is the character named "George Liquor" (article title) or "George Liquor, American" (bold in first sentence, infobox header)? I realize there is some ambiguity from reading this, but this should be consistent. Since the story bible is just "George Liquor" I would go with that, but perhaps the first sentence could be George Liquor (also known as George Liquor, American) is...

Done

  • Since he is apparently best known from Ren and Stimpy, I would put that in the first sentence.

Done

  • This article still needs a copyedit. Many of the sentences are awkward or unclear and the article repeats itself. For example, just in the lead: Harris Peet voiced George in the character's first starring episode of The Ren and Stimpy Show[3] and has been voiced by Michael Pataki since. The subject of the sentence as written is Harris Peet, so the second half literally means that Harris Peet has been voiced by Michael Pataki since...
  • Another big concern I have about this article is that most of the information seems to be attributed to Kricfalusi, who is not a independent third party reliable source. Due to the limited nature of the character's appearances in mainstream media this is perhaps understandable, please see WP:V
  • Try to avoid repetition, some examples:
    • Kricfalusi said that the episode "Man's Best Friend" was the episode of The Ren and Stimpy Show that got Kricfalusi and the Spumco staff fired from The Ren and Stimpy Show.[2] repeats "The Ren and Stimpy Show" and "Kricfalusi" each twice in one sentence. The next sentence repeats "Nickelodeon" three times.
Done
    • Or this tells us he got the rights to Liquor twice in two sentences: When Nickelodeon fired Kricfalusi, the network gave him the rights to use George Liquor because the network employees did not like the character.[13][16] The arrangement with the network granted Kricfalusi the rights to Liquor and Jimmy.[14]
Done
    • Or do we really need to be told that The Goddamn George Liquor Program used Flash animation twice (start of that section, end of Advertisements)
Done
  • Some information seems to be missing - what are the two episodes of Ren and Stimpy that Liquor makes cameos in? How many issues of Comic Book does he appear in?
  • Provide context for the reader (WP:PCR). We learn Liquor was created in 1979, then there are no dates given until The Goddamn George Liquor Program in 1997, 18 years later.
  • References are incomplete - for example interent references should give url, title, publisher, author if known, and date accessed. Templates such as {{cite web}} may help.
  • Ask yourself what makes this worth its own article (as opposed to being merged with the article on Ren and Stimpy characters and the article on Kricfalusi)? What arguments would you make if this were up for AfD? Then make those points clearer in the article.

Hope this helps, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 17:53, 24 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • I removed the semi-automated peer review because 1) it breaks transclusion (so this does not show up on WP:PR) and 2) it does not follow the directions, above. I also removed the Done graphic per the directions - it speeds loading if there are no graphics. Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:36, 25 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]