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Don Dunstan edit

Donald Allan Dunstan AC QC (September 21, 1926 - 6 February, 1999) was an Australian politician and Labor Premier of South Australia between June 1, 1967 and April 17, 1968 and then subsequently between June 2, 1970 and February 15, 1979. A reformist, Dunstan brought profound change to South Australian society: his progressive reign saw Aboriginal land rights recognised, homosexuality decriminalised, the first female judge appointed and anti-discrimination legislation introduced. He is recognised for his role in reinvigorating the social, artistic and cultural life of South Australia during his nine years in office, remembered as the Dunstan Decade.

I would appreciate any feedback regarding this article. It has been written at length, thuroughly referenced and has appropriate pictures with fair-use rationales. Thank you for taking the time to read, and if you do so, thank you for commenting. Any concerns will be dealt with promptly. michael talk 12:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • For the most part, I'm quite impressed by the work of all of the contributors. :) However, the second paragraph seems out of place. I think it should be merged into the "Early life" section. Also, some sections are quite lengthy. Perhaps they could be further broken up? "Early life", for instance, could have subsections about Mr. Dunstan's family, childhood, education, and so on. Let me know if I can be of any help and keep up the good work. :) Srose (talk) 17:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • PS: I've just made some nitpicking grammar corrections to the "Early life" section. There are more minor grammar tweaks to be made sporadically throughout the article, but I doubt I'll get to them today, unfortunately. Srose (talk) 17:22, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for that. I'm pretty sure some minor copyediting will still have to be done. michael talk 02:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Impressive. I'm quite happy with the 2nd paragraph as a summary in the lead section, and don't htink the sections need breaking up, apart from The Dunstan Decade. A few minor points:
    • Is it really accurate to say he "moved back to SA" in the 2nd para?
    • "Eventually rising..." in the 2nd para isn't a full sentence.
    • Why was Dunstan joining the ALP "never expected" not just "not expected"?
    • Elections section: calling the restrictions on abortion "appropriate" seems POV.
    • The statement "another term of Labor govt sworn in on a knife edge" in 1975 doesn't make much sense to me.
  • Congratulations for another good article, Michael. JPD (talk) 18:04, 26 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've made the changes you've suggested. I was originally going to break down the 'Dunstan Decade' section but couldn't organise it properly and figure suitable headers. I was hoping it would appear good enough as one full section. Thanks for the kind comments. :) michael talk 02:39, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I really can't see anything at all wrong with this article as is. I've been keeping an eye on its progress for a while, and every issue I had with it has been long fixed - kudos. I wonder if there would be any chance we could make a fair use justification for a pink hotpants photograph though, as it was perhaps his most defining moment. Rebecca 06:41, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are no pink hotpants photographs online; however, I'm considering a stroll into the State Library in the next week - I'll see what I can do then. A fair use summary for such a photograph would be easy - its a very distinctive moment. michael talk 06:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The article looks good, there is no fair use justification for the festival centre picture since it could easily be made by a wikipedian in Adelaide, so it should be removed. It'd be a good idea to use a consistent format for the fair use rationales on all the others. Some of the captions are not very informative. There are some places in the article where the sentences are too long/complex and there are also some words that are going to be hard for non AusE speakers like stint in the lead - another copyedit from a non Aussie might be a good idea. --Peta 04:03, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that - I'll take a shot of the theatre next time I'm in the city, and will review the fair use rationales. A copyedit from a non-Australian would be ideal; however, I don't know any of them! Any suggestions? michael talk 08:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
User:Wayward used to do a good copyedit - I'm not sure how active s/he is at the moment.--Peta 08:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am very impressed by the article and my only concern is that someone may not accept the "Fair Use" argument for some of the images. Well done. --Roisterer 15:48, 31 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've copy-edited the first few paragraphs, and may return to do more. Foreigners will need to have "Liberal" explained as an Australian misnomer for conservative, on first occurrence. Tony 16:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I wasn't expecting a copyedit but thank you regardless! I had hoped I made it obvious regarding the liberal conservative party, but I'll add in something more blunt. michael talk 01:05, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Very good article. I've gone through and tidied up the writing where I thought it necessary. I'd second Srose's comment above that the second paragraph of the intro needs work.--cj | talk 06:31, 3 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]