Wikipedia:Peer review/Climate of India/archive1

Climate of India edit

I need comments about the article's structure, and how to keep the text comprehensive without making the article bloated. I've been looking at Climate of Minnesota, and am wondering whether readers need temperature tables and separate sections like "Precipitation" and "Temperature"; if so, I can add them. Also would appreciate comments regarding prose, organization, flow, length, comprehensiveness, etc. Please feel free to also comment regarding whether a "History" section is needed; it would describe how India's climate has evolved since it was a part of Gondwanaland. Thanks. Saravask 19:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Looks nice; did not read the whole article though. IMO temperature tables are not needed. If necessary, a daughter article named Seasons in India can be created which will host the temperature tables. A "History" section in line of your proposal would be damn interesting! Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 05:28, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. I'll get to work on a "History" section. Thanks for the advice. Saravask 05:35, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Seasons are once mentioned under "Climatology", and again elaborated under "Seasons". In fact, it seems the section "Climatology" can be removed, it's mostly redundant. Can be incorporated in other sections. The first paragraph of "Climatology" may be incorporated into the intro para of Climatic regions. Regarding the maps in "Climatology", rainfall map may find a place in "Monsoon" (may be one image has to be sacrificed), while "wind zone" map, may be, under "Cyclones". As a start, all images may be right aligned. Those may be rearranged later if need be. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 08:22, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for pointing out the redundancy. I got rid of "Climatology", shuffled some pics, and made other changes ([1]). Still working on finding sources for the "History" section. Please let me know if you have other ideas. Saravask 13:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • A monsoon wind map would be useful
  • States which receive snow would be useful (6 total)
  • PNG map needs to be converted to SVG
  • low value common nouns should be unlinked, duplicate cases of linking should also be avoided
  • Amritsar -0.6 needs a cite (That figure was reached in Dec 98)
  • Use − for negative figures
  • Lowest temp needed. (use the ref I posted on your talk)
  • Monsoons need to be differenciated into southwest and northeast. I believe these are two separate incidents, and NE <> to retreating
  • "Many textbooks however, refer to this as a separate season." -- cite needed to debunk this
  • The Nilgiri Range is exceptional -- actually this applies to the Westen Ghats, hills in Kerala too fall below freezing, and it is plausible that northern western ghats too might fall below freezing at elevations over 1500 m
  • The Himalayan and Nilgiri hill other hill stations can also be included such as the Gharo-Khasi, Western Ghats (instead of Nilgiri)
  • Snow disrupts life in Kashmir + blizzards in J&K
  • Mention the Loo
  • Many textbooks mention that the Thar Desert is responsible for the monsoons, can this be clarified?
  • Max rainfall in a single day: [2]. Source here would be the ToI-Mumbai 27 Jul.
  • Western Disturbances from the Medit. Sea? Brings rain and snow to N. India (IIRC -- my class 10 geography)
  • A table showing select temperatures across India would be helpful: Fields: Summer max, winter max, summer average, winter average, monsoon max, monsoon average. Cities: Srinagar, Delhi, Mumbai, Chennai, Guwahati, Kolkata, Bhopal, Port Blair.
  • A standard X-Y graph, rainfall vs months for selected cities would be useful.
  • NE India is much cooler in summer, any reasons?
  • submersion of parts of Mumbai and Chennai.. I think the islands of LK and AN would be also severely affected
  • What about climate of AN, LK? tropical?
  • The climate of India is difficult to generalize due -- starts negatively. Should be rewritten in a positive tone
  • NE India is kept cooler in winter through cold air coming in from the B'putra valley. Could this be researched?
  • Tropical dry, wet, etc could do with some apt photographic images of the vegetation
  • Some left-aligned images push the section headings, need to be realigned

=Nichalp «Talk»= 15:19, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Thanks for the critique. It's going to take me several days to address these points; I'll post here after I think I've finished. But there are two issues:
  • &minus; does not work with {{convert}}; the template probably makes this switch automatically (I haven't checked)
  • I agree that redundant wikilinking within the body or lead should be removed, but think that some of the climate- and weather-related common terms ("glaciers", "summer", "cloud", etc.) should be kept linked.
I'm willing to discuss these further after I've done the map, tables, research, and your other requested changes. If you see other problems, please share. Thanks. Saravask 22:45, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I dont think cloud and summer should be linked. They are common nouns known to 10 year olds, and just a "type and Go" away. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I see. Saravask 21:05, 24 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment More inline citations are needed in certain section eg "History", and the whole of "Climatic regions". --Dwaipayan (talk) 14:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
  1. That table mentioning the seasons is slightly incorrect. NE monsoons occur only in some parts of India. There for to label it for Delhi, Mumbai, Bhopal would be misleading.
  2. That swollen B'putra image does not add any value to the page. It's hard to pick out the river, and furthermore hard to figure out the extent of swelling
  3. Late Permian --> year needed

=Nichalp «Talk»= 09:52, 31 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think I've hit all the points ([3]). Thanks for the review. Are there any other issues? Thanks. Saravask 06:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]