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October 23

Comparison of clipboard manager software

Not sure if this is the right place to ask. I'm considering creating an article with a list of clipboard managers, similar to existing software comparison pages (e.g. Comparison of FTP client software). I'd like to know if this article is worth creating (whether it meets notability/etc. guidelines), and that it won't be deleted shortly after creation. --Vladimir (talk) 00:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

The lack of notable clipboard viewers -- I count 3, one is sort of notable and the other two aren't -- should be a big hint. There are 49 FTP programs listed, 47 of which have articles. Xenon54 (talk) 01:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

How can I become an administrator?

I have always wanted to be an administrator. I finally figured out how to create an account, and now would like to be more. I would like to improve Wikipedia in any way I can, so I would like to fill out the form for it. How can I do this? Answer here or my talk page 01:35, 23 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by StartrekismylifeJadzia (talk • contribs)

See Wikipedia:Guide to requests for adminship. According to File:RfA_edit_count_chart.png, you should have at least several thousand edits before considering applying. --Vladimir (talk) 01:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Simple. If you have to ask, you shouldn't bother. You need a lot more experience. Xenon54 (talk) 01:47, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Please note that Xenon has a userbox that says he isn't an administrator and doesn't want to become one. :-) Not that I disagree with his comment.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

The bit of information you may be missing is that you don't have to be an administrator in order to help improve Wikipedia in many ways. Undoing vandalism, researching and supplying references, rewriting unclear sentences are examples of important things that any editor can do. --ColinFine (talk) 22:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect information in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal Sufism

Dear Sirs,

The article I cited above incorrectly menitions, in the section regarding Temples, the existence of "The Sufi Ruhaniat International Universel in Bothwell, Washington, USA."

There are two problems with that statement.

Most trivial is the spelling of Bothell. There is no "w".

More significant, Universal is not associated with Sufi Ruhaniat International, and never has been. Universel is a Sufi Temple with no particular affiliation. Anyone is welcome.

When you correct that posting you may, if you wish, include a link to www.universel.org.

Sincerely, C. Brent Thomas Universel Board of Directors —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.32.44 (talk) 03:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

By your message I assume that you've come across one of our 3.5 million articles and come to the conclusion that we are directly related to the subject. This is not the case. You are at Wikipedia —Preceding unsigned comment added by 1234r00t (talk • contribs)

The post is about the contents of Universal Sufism#Temples. I have edited it [1] as requested after examining the matter. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Odd copy and paste problem

When I copy and paste the arbcom appeal address from Wikipedia:Appealing a block I get arbcom-llists.wikimedia.org - 'llists' - something about the pipe in the template I presume. Am I right about the cause? Is there an easy fix? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 05:10, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

It's not related to the pipe. There really are two l's (two small L's and no pipe) but there should be @ between them when you post to the address. It's deliberate that the formatting is a little odd to thwart automated email harvesters. My Firefox copies it as arbcom-l‐at‐lists.wikimedia.org. PrimeHunter (talk) 05:31, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

It is indeed an anti-harvesting thing. The @ is an image so doesn't copy when copied for pasting. You'll need to insert it manually between the two ls -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\^{[alternate account of Phantomsteve]} 11:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, need to clean my glasses. Dougweller (talk) 13:57, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

How should http://www.asic-world.com be designated?

Many Wikipedia articles refer to articles on http://www.asic-world.com, usually in references:

• Diode–transistor logic
• Verilog
• Metastability in electronics
• Transistor–transistor logic
• Encoder
• OpenVera

They use different names, respectively:

"ASIC world", "Asic-World", "asic-world.com", "asic-world", and "ASIC World".

What name should be used for http://www.asic-world.com?

--Mortense (talk) 06:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Seems like the website consistently refers to "ASIC" in capitals, therefore I would refer to it as "ASIC World", just my 2 cents. - CET^TALK 08:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

It's easy to see the source of confusion, just look at the site. There is no clearly obvious statement of the canonical letter case in the site name. There is a graphic that shows the all-caps "ASIC WORLD". I don't see the actual site name in text. I suggest contacting the site proprietor to ask him to clarify the site name. If the site is itself notable enough to resist deletion (I have no idea whether that is true, you'd need to find reliable sources about the site that are independent of the site itself), you could create a new article about the site, and then link the instances of the site name on Wikipedia to the article. That would help to canonicalize the name. In the meantime I would go with "ASIC World" since ASIC is an acronym and we have an article with that title, and "World" is not an acronym and thus should not be in all capitals. See Wikipedia:Article titles#Article title format. --Teratornis (talk) 17:05, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism

I don't know where to report vandalism, therefore I am reporting it here. User:118.92.234.124 has vandalished the article Steinway & Sons two times by adding "poo is cool".[2][3] (The two vandalism edits have been reverted, but I hope that somebody will do what is appropriate to do when somebody vandalish articles. Thank you.) --Peoplefromarizona (talk) 07:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

The user has already been warned yesterday, if it happens again in the future, see WP:AIV. - CET^TALK 07:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

what is the best way to request English Wikipedia pages translated to foreign lingos Wikipedia, and interlink them

Hi all, my edits were deleted, wasting my time. I found interesting English Wikipedia articles about natural beauty and request translations by Wikipedian editors in that country. I was going to learn how to add stubs or red links in those countries, and ask for translations. Or is there somewhere I can the English articles so they are marked as needing translation? if I want an English article to appear in the Asian Wikiepedia like Japan or ChinaI will write

zh-cn:page name

And what then? I should click the link from the sidebar in the English page and then create a red link there or stub there? Will it then get automatically translated, or should I do something else to auto translate it? I copied code from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Interlanguage_links

I also looked here, but there it doesn't tell you how to translate FROM English, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Contributing_to_articles_outside_your_native_language

Do I just need to add a special code to the articles so that anyone who wants to translate from English can see them?

Any tips please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yamamoto2000 (talk • contribs) 11:19, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

User has already received responses to an identical helpme request at his or her talk page.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Where Is The "PMID" Number For A Reference?

Not Clear About PMID Numbers - Need To Know (I think) The PMID Number Of The "Science" Journal Reference Attached To The End Of This Entry - Where Is The PMID Number? -OR- How Does One Obtain A PMID Number For This Particular Reference?

<ref name="Colaprete2010">{{Cite journal |author=Colaprete, A.; Schultz, P.; Heldmann, J.; Wooden, D.; Shirley, M.; Ennico, K.; Hermalyn, B.; Marshall, W; Ricco, A.; Elphic, R. C.; Goldstein, D.; Summy, D.; Bart, G. D.; Asphaug, E.; Korycansky, D.; Landis, D.; Sollitt, L. |title=Detection of Water in the LCROSS Ejecta Plume |journal=Science|date=22 October 2010|volume=330 |issue=6003|pages=463-468 |doi=10.1126/science.1186986 }}</ref>

- Thanks In Advance - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 13:08, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I've added "nowiki" tags to your post so that your reference is visible. According to the article PMID, these numbers are assigned for life sciences and biomedical articles. I suggest you just omit the "pmid" parameter, since it's unlikely to receive a PMID number. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks For Your Comment - And For Adding The (new to me) "nowiki" Tags - Yes, I *Completely* Agree With You About Omitting The "PMID" Parameter In This Instance - Thanks Again For Your Help. Drbogdan (talk) 15:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

See WP:LOWERCASE, just in case you are over-capitalizing elsewhere on Wikipedia. --Teratornis (talk) 16:51, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks For Your Comment - Actually, I *Completely* Agree With You - This Style Does Not At All Extend To My Edits For Main Articles - If Interested, Some Of My Current Thinking About This At The Moment Is At -> This Reference - In Any Case - Thanks Again - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 23:43, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Wiki's rasterization

I don't understand why Wikipedia rasterizes anything, including math formulas and SVGs. Of course PNG are better for interoperability, but why can't modern browser users like me choose to directly see SVG and MathML (this feature does exist as of now but doesn't work at all) or some other math renderer like jsMath, Mathjax, mathtex which are scalable.--Netheril96 (talk) 14:30, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

You're more likely to get a useful answer at WP:VPT. Algebraist 14:38, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Also see talk pages such as Help talk:Displaying a formula (e.g. Formulas as SVG?). --Teratornis (talk) 16:48, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Problem with Wiki's editor winner42

Sorry, I have a problem here. I posted an article on young Conductor Dirk O. Meyer (who I had the privilege to meet) and editor winner42 flagged it for speedy deletion. How does Wikipedia want to go about this. Dirk Meyer is one of the coming conductors. Does Wikipedia only intend to show articles about dead stars? Then now you can have an article about Tony Curtis?

I agree that my article should be expanded. Working on it.

But if winner42's 2 articles on some backwater in the US with 2000 inhabitants is worth an article here, young artists with potential should have even more rights.

2 articles? Then censoring? If censoring is more worth here than contributing?

And "speedy deletion" seems to be all he is contributing.

Or shall I start with articles about my local school here?? The loos there were quite inspiring.

Sorry, have not even really started here, but the way the established editors treat the inexperienced newbies will be wikipedia's detriment.

I think I correctly contested the speedy deletion request. If the article is removed, I request the removal of his articles about the local school district of 2000-soul village somewhere in Ma.

Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skywalker89 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

In order for someone to have a Wikipedia article, they must be notable enough to warrant one. Please note that Wikipedia's definition of "notable" is different than the dictionary definition. Here, "notable" means the person has received significant coverage in independent reliable sources. The article, as it currently stands, does not demonstrate the necessary significant coverage. You may also want to read our guide to writing your first article. TNXMan 15:28, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

You might also want to look at the essay Wikipedia:Up and coming next big thing. Basically, in order to have an article, a subject has to already be notable. -- Bk314159 (Talk to me and find out what I've done) 19:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Proofreading Request Adam Josephs

Someone translated this Article, however, there are some grammatical mistakes in it. Could seomeone correct this? --Liberaler Humanist (talk) 16:18, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

This utter pov rubbish was created by User:Liberaler Humanist on German Wikipedia in the first place. So I guess the socketpuppet who translated it is .... Even in German it has no relevance, no info on its subject.--Radh (talk) 19:14, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I am not even surprised, that you foll[!] me even here. You cant really stand it, that I have nominated some of your komrades for a major block? Are you already unblocked in WP:DE or are you still waiting? --Liberaler Humanist (talk) 22:27, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I think it is also very close to, if not over, the line for BLPs. I would ask that an admin take a look with a view to a speedy delete. Bielle (talk) 19:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Agreed, this is serious bias! I've added tags but an administrator should definitely check it out, especially since sources are youtube videos... - CET^TALK 19:50, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

After more thought, I tagged for speedy deletion as an attack page (article about a living person that is entirely negative in tone and unsourced, where there is no neutral version in the history to revert to), see WP:CSD#G10. - CET^TALK 19:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Just for the record: I am not blocked on de-wp, nor was I for years, and also do not hound lying sc..b.gs. I wanted help with a problem of my own, but got distracted by this nonsense. (re; Cold Turkey Press, which I also did an artcle about, not remembering, that there already was one).--Radh (talk) 09:22, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

He has not been blocked, but he has now received an 1 day block in DE for calling me dumb and analphabetic. -- +++ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Liberaler Humanist (talk • contribs) 14:20, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I had said, that political stupidity and analphabetism [Komrades, foll, cant] obviously join hand in hand. I also called him a liar for lying here about my block.

Would it be possible to have this guy removed from en-Wikipedia for (yesterday) spreading lies about me (i'd hound him; I'd be blocked) and for (probably?) socketpuppeteering: the first translator of the article on the Toronto policeman should be L. H. (?) given his style.--Radh (talk) 14:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

User talkpage

Hi. On my user talk page, the sections after the newsletter #31 are indented to the far-right of the page, while in the most recent newsletter the user's signature appears on top of the earlier one. What is causing this problem, and what can I do to correct it, other than immediately archiving my talkpage? Is the problem in the syntax on my talkpage or is it within the actual transcluded newsletter page? Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 17:03, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

I think I fixed everything you described. The problem was that there was a missing </div>. As for the overlapping sections, a {{clear}} took care of that. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:26, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Signature

I am having trouble putting links in my signature, please help! [[User:Perseus, Son of Zeus|Me]][[User talk:Perseus, Son of Zeus|Message me]] 20:44, 23 October 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Perseus, Son of Zeus (talk • contribs)

Replace &#124; by a pipe "|". It appears you have misunderstood this instruction at Special:Preferences: "if you are going to use a displayed pipe ("|") character (i.e. not part of a piped link), please use &#124; for the pipe character". You are using the pipe as part of a piped link and not for display, so it has to be the pipe character "|". PrimeHunter (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Image not updated in facebook

hey, i just made a change to the a page, in the page for the movie 'socha na tha' the image for the poster of the movie was not working so i changed the image. the problem is the image is not updated in the facebook page for this movie. what can be done??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.80.9 (talk) 21:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Is this about http://www.facebook.com/pages/Socha-Na-Tha/112341702114294?v=wiki? I don't know how and when Facebook gets images from Wikipedia but there may be a delay. Facebook and Wikipedia are run by different organizations with different servers, and Facebook is one of lots of independent websites using Wikipedia content. It's also posssible (just speculating here) that Facebook examines the license of Wikipedia images before displaying them. People at Facebook may know more about what Facebook does. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:37, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Yet another userbox problem

Can someone please take a look at my userboxes and make the birthday one hide? I am fairly sure it is something with the userbox itself. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 21:41, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

You had a free-floating </div> at the beginning of the userbox, which I've corrected. If for some reason you must have it there, you'll need to add a free opening <div> immediately before it to cancel it out. As a side note, your userbox will not display your correct birthday because it is not equipped to handle a parameter. Intelligentsium 21:58, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

The Land Has Eyes

The URL for the movie's website has been changed from www.thelandhaseyes.com to www.thelandhaseyes.org as a result of a lapsed domain name that was purchased by a car dealer in Japan. I was able to change the erroneous external links, but not the ones in the references. Please make sure that all the links on this page are correct.

Here are the items that need to be changed with the correct URLs

2. [Plot synopsis]: http://www.thelandhaseyes.org/story.html 4. [Production]: http://www.thelandhaseyes.org/production.html 5. [Cast]: http://www.thelandhaseyes.org/cast.html 7. [Festivals and special events]: http://www.thelandhaseyes.org/festivals.html 11. [Homepage]: http://www.thelandhaseyes.org/index.html

24.94.92.197 (talk) 23:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

Fixed.[4] For another time, inline references are edited where they are used and not where they are displayed. See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

I have also updated the link in five other articles [5] which were displayed at [6] before. The English Wikipedia has no more links to the old website. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:21, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Software misinterprets formatting

See Venusberg (mythology) - what is going on here? The formatting is correct. --KnightMove (talk) 23:55, 23 October 2010 (UTC)

fixed!! there was a stray and missing " ' ".--TalkToMe_c^intelati 23:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)