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Racial wage gap in the United States edit

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Result: Delist I think this is all the comments we are going to get on this. There is a weak consensus to delist this article at this time. AIRcorn (talk) 21:37, 31 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Race Terms I've noticed there seem to have been some concern over the neutrality of this article and more recently some concern over the improper distinction between "Indian Americans", "American Indians" and "Native Americans". And on occasion the use of black rather than African American.

Race or ethnicity The sidebar calls this the ethnic wage gap, the title says racial wage gap

Suspicious Statements I feel like some weasel words may have snuck in since this article was granted good article status

Following urban-dominated studies and shifting research based on evolved conceptual and study driven thinking, sociologists determined that the racial composition of a local population means for a key element in racial wage inequality.

Studies of the wage gap for various minority races in the United States have revealed a number of factors that contribute to the differences in wages observed between white Americans and Americans of other races. The factors contributing to the wage gaps for various races and the degree to which they affect each race varies,[12] but many factors are common to most or all races. (also layout problems with this one)

When human capital, skills, and other factors contributing to the racial wage gap are taken into account, many researchers^{[example needed]} find that there is still a portion of the racial wage gap that is unexplained.

General Formatting

Percent and % are mixed even in the same section.
Not enough bluelinks, as a non-American I need more context what are:Union Army, the Thirteenth Amendment, Confederacy, some of this stuff might be listed earlier in the article, but it's long so I'm not reading it sequentially, it's ok to repeat some internal links especially if they haven't been mentioned in a while.

Grammatical/fliw and context problems

Hispanic and Asian women, in particular, are shown to be most affected; Hispanic and Asian women are shown to fill less skilled, domestic service jobs where the concentration of their black and white counterparts are lower. Such barriers such as language show that such large dominance of immigrant population in such sectors only breed competition between lower-earning groups, further lowering average wages for such families.

Illustration The PNG

is of insufficient resolution to adequately distinguish its elements at thumbnail size. Specifically which pattern corresponds to which bar is unclear, and the text is fuzzy.

is of similarily low quality, but of sufficient quality to make out the patterns, just the text is fuzzy.Ethanpet113 (talk) 05:27, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am not sure about this one. Some falls outside the criteria. Things like Blue links and percentage formatting. I tend to agree on the graphs as the colours are not clear even at larger sizes. I don't think we can hold the sidebar against it. As for neutrality I only found one discussion from 2016 on the talk page and that seems to have been resolved. The use of Black doesn't concern me overly as it is used in contrast to White and a quick google search [1] didn't lead me to believe it is generally considered offensive. It is also used a lot in literature. There are some grammer issues. The such barriers such as language show that such large dominance of immigrant population in such sectors only breed competition between lower-earning groups, further lowering average wages for such families linked above is just cringeworthy. One citation needed, but otherwise it is pretty well sourced. Given the time it has been under reassessment, the lack of response and the complicated nature of the topic I am leaning Delist on this one. AIRcorn (talk) 09:47, 10 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I would also lean toward Delist. The most obvious criterion this article has problems with is 1a ("the prose is clear and concise, and the spelling and grammar are correct"). I only got through about half the article's text, but I found a decent number of prose issues. I fixed several simple problems along the way. Some that I couldn't/didn't fix (not counting the ones pointed out by Ethanpet113 and Aircorn above):

Despite the improvement in wages made by educational attainment, less educated Hispanic men still have less return to education than non-Hispanic men that are statistically comparable. "less return to education"? Not sure what this is saying.
...where many modern causes of racial wage inequity, such as educational disparities and discrimination, stem from were even more prevalent.
Public state records from the 1930s indicate white owned schools in the south spent approximately $61 dollars per student, or $1,074.14 in 2018 dollars when adjusted for inflation, compared to just $9 per student, or $158.48 in 2018 dollars. Compared to $9 per student for... which schools?
As the United States joined the global market economy, three outcomes occurred. Those who possessed financial and human capital, such as education, succeeded in the new economy because the money and skills they had to offer were in short supply. Those who possessed only labor did not fare well because cheap, physical labor was in oversupply in the global market. That's only two outcomes?

Some other issues:

This sentence which cites Wikipedia: However, Native Americans are the poorest ethnic group when measured by per capita income. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_per_capita_income#>
As of 1995, Hispanic women of all education levels, except for those without high school diplomas or associate degrees, had parity in earnings with white women. While this information is positive, a broader examination of Hispanic women's wages reveals that inequality still exists. While I'm sure the overwhelming majority of readers would agree with it, describing the change as "positive" is making a value judgement, and so I think technically a WP:NPOV violation.

I don't think it would require a huge effort to fix these issues, but since no-one seems to have stepped up to the plate on this since the article was listed for reassessment in early December, I think it's appropriate to delist for now. Colin M (talk) 16:45, 11 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]