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Battleships of Japan edit

The Imperial Japanese Navy learned that the heavily armoured warship was the decisive element in naval warfare during the First Sino-Japanese War and it believed that that doctrine was confirmed as valid during the Russo-Japanese War of 1904–1905. Despite heavily investing in aircraft carriers during the 1920s and 1930s, it continued to believe in the primacy of the battleship and built the largest and most powerful battleships ever constructed, the Yamato class, during the 1930s. The Pacific War proved them wrong as the United States Navy sank all but one of the Japanese battleships during the war, mostly with aircraft.

Contributor(s): Sturmvogel 66, Parsecboy, and The ed17

After about a decade of work, over half the articles are FA class and we finally finished the capstone list. --Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 23:49, 21 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Yep. That’s all of them. What an amazing achievement. Bravo! Gog the Mild (talk) 00:11, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: Suo→Suwo. Also, where are the Kongō-class fast battleships? Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:54, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
- D'oh!--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 13:07, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - Support. A fantastic piece of work, comprehensive and more than half Featured. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 21:58, 22 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support: A great achievement! Well done, everyone involved! -Bryan Rutherford (talk) 19:42, 28 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support: PMG (talk) 10:18, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Incredible work. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 14:16, 30 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks fantastic! Please check consistency of sections though. E.g. Yamato-class battleship has Notes–References–Bibliography, while Tosa-class battleship has Notes–Footnotes–References and Japanese battleship Ise has Notes–Citations–References. Ise also has Construction and career but Russian battleship Peresvet uses Construction and service. Reywas92^Talk 22:38, 18 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These articles have been written by a group of editors, all of whom have their own preferences for the exact wording of the main headers. There is no requirement for consistent headers in all the articles making up a FT (or even one in the MOS). Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 00:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Featured topic criteria: "The structure of the articles is similar, with the same section titles and order where possible." This may be a recommendation rather than mandatory but it's still explicitly stated as basic stuff that lends to cohesion of articles in the topic. It's also weird to have both Notes and Footnotes as header since that's duplicative rather than differentiating; References is the most commonly used for a citation footnotes header, so Yamato's names may be preferred in combination. Reywas92^Talk 08:49, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It clearly is guidance and not mandatory. There is no requirement to use what is "commonly used", all that is required is that they are in general accordance with the basic guidance in MOS:LAYOUT. I've used Notes and Footnotes (plus References) in almost every FA I've written, so it's hardly weird (unless of course I'm weird, which is entirely possible). It is also hardly grounds for quibbling IMHO. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 09:03, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Too bad, it's still explicitly recommended so I'm going to quibble about it since the authors of the criteria quibbled about it. It doesn't have to be that one, but there's no reason to blatantly ignore the FTCR. Reywas92^Talk 18:57, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm slowly working my way through all of the articles, taking the opportunity to update them as I go.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:39, 20 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

All done.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 19:24, 22 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

- Looks great, support! Reywas92^Talk 21:43, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Support Looks complete and great to me. Congrats for the major milestone, and now we've to make them all FAs. ;) Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 17:08, 24 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Closed with a consensus to promote to Featured Topic. - GamerPro64 20:57, 11 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]