Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/The Dover Boys

The Dover Boys edit

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Original – The Dover Boys at Pimento University or The Rivals of Roquefort Hall (also known as The Dover Boys) is a 1942 Warner Bros. Merrie Melodies cartoon directed by Chuck Jones. It is one of the first cartoons to make extensive use of limited animation, as well as other techniques that would only be more broadly popularized in the 1950s.

Reason: This is just a fun cartoon to watch and is highly regarded as one of the best animated shorts ever made.
Articles in which this image appears: The Dover Boys at Pimento University or The Rivals of Roquefort Hall
FP category for this image: Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Culture, entertainment, and lifestyle/Entertainment
Creator: Chuck Jones

Support as nominator – GamerPro64 03:30, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I want to support, but are we certain about the copyright? Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 12:31, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The webpage says: "it is one of the few Warner Bros. shorts from that era that fell into the public domain, although it has seen releases from MGM/UA Home Video and Warner Home Video." - if that can be confirmed, I'll support! (BTW, I don't think it is a coincidence that the "bad guy" bears a resemblance to Walt Disney... ;-) --Janke | Talk 16:53, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support, then. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 19:02, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Cant really see any concrete evidence its in public domain but I have seen it being sold by third party distributors. GamerPro64 20:40, 10 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This wiki-page says it's in the public domain and references this archive link and the book Film Superlist: Motion Pictures in the U.S. Public Domain, 1940-1949. Bammesk (talk) 14:32, 11 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support ~~if copyright status can be confirmed~~. MER-C 10:44, 13 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
~~Conditional~~ Support ~~if the copyright can be verified.~~ If anyone can check the Film Superlist book in a nearby library search here. We can suspend the nom, if anyone volunteers to check the book. Bammesk (talk) 02:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
- Stated as Public Domain on Archive.org [[1]] - --Janke | Talk 18:08, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  That really isn't much of a guide. Archive.org uses Egyptian Public Domain, which is incredibly easy to fall into. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 18:17, 14 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I revised my vote, per my comments below. Bammesk (talk) 15:17, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Historically important in the field of animation, and the video is excellent quality. Waxworker (talk) 16:57, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Support The helper5667 (talk) 18:55, 15 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – I might be able to check the Film Superlist book next week and verify the copyright status. Let's not close this nom for a week @Armbrust:. Bammesk (talk) 12:24, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, that works for me. Regards, Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 18:54, 19 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Armbrust, I didn't get a chance to do it last week. I will try to do it next week. Bammesk (talk) 13:33, 25 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Postpone closure to allow the copyright of the video to be checked. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 06:40, 20 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the Film Superlist book, Volume 2 (1940-1949). Contrary to what I assumed, the book doesn't list motion pictures which have fallen into public domain. The book is a better organized compilation of the data in the Online database on motion pictures released from 1940 to 1949, including any renewals 28 years after the original release, plus supplementary info (search reports) on some releases.

I searched the book and the Dover Boys cartoon is not listed in it. I also searched the Online database for motion picture registrations in 1941, 1942, 1943, as well as motion picture renewals in 1969, 1970, 1971 and the Dover Boys cartoon is missing. So there is no record that this cartoon was ever registered for copyright, nor a record that it was ever renewed. (On a sidenote: the Film Superlist book does have copyright registration info for 93 Looney Tunes cartoons and 140 Merrie Melodies cartoons.)

I think the Commons copyright tag is valid (i.e. no renewal). Plus, the cartoon may not have been registered with the copyright office (there is no record of its registration). Pinging the nominator and participants who voted conditionally @GamerPro64, Adam Cuerden, Janke, and MER-C:. Bammesk (talk) 15:17, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good, then. Adam Cuerden ^(talk)_{Has about 7.9% of all FPs} 18:43, 2 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted File:The Dover Boys at Pimento University 1080p.webm --Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 20:04, 3 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]