Wikipedia:Featured list removal candidates/List of universities in the Canadian Prairies/archive1
- The following is an archived discussion of a featured list removal nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.
The list was removed by Scorpion0422 16:30, 5 April 2009 [1].
List of universities in the Canadian Prairies edit
- Notified: Gary King and Wikiprojects Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Education in Canada and Universities.
1. Prose. The writting style suggests that it is based on cut and paste factoids, and does not give context. 2. Lead. Does not match WP:MOS (no bold title). Inclusion criteria not explained. Why group as Prairie region? This region exists in one once place in Canadian law, the Senate, which has nothing to do with Universities. Why only universiries and not colleges or other post-secondary? Why mix the universities of three provinces when they each have distinct legal regimes covering who is a university and who is not? 3. Comprehensiveness. A government source I have recently pointed out contradicts Association of Universities and Colleges of Canada, which is used as almost the only source. The fact that this is wrong suggest that the AUCC is not a WP:RELIABLE source. Therefore all the content is suspect and needs to be resourced with more official references.
- In general I'm not even sure the article should exist. It copies (but with discrepencies) most of the individual provincial lists (AB, SK, MN and the national list. I am a little suprised that it was promoted to FL. First I am nominating it for review. But maybe we should also be talking about a merger or deletion. --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 02:38, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment I suppose the only reason why this list exists is because there's some obscure WP regulation saying that a FL should have a minimum of items. So the author, in order to promote his featured topic, came up with this grouping. Alas, this has no connection with reality, there's no real-world-reason to group this items, as education is managed by each province, there are different laws and governing bodies in each province. I don't contest the fact that this list passes the FL criteria, but it shouldn't exist at all. A nomination for deletion would be more appropriate in my opinion. --Qyd (talk) 13:41, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Then it should be argued at AfD. A FL being a possible deletion candidate is not a reason to delist, imo, as anyone can bring an AfD for any reason, and any consensus here could be over-ridden by a later AfD. Taking this there once might clear up consensus on the issue, but it doesn't need to be FL-delisted in the mean time. -- YobMod 15:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment Personally, I would not be opposed to all of the lists being merged together into List of universities in Canada. Yes, the topic would be lost, but lets face it, the sub-lists are pretty much exact copies of the main list tables (except some are split into public and private). The only differences are individual maps and a larger lead (although much of the text is repeated). Generally, I'm not a fan of sub-lists using the exact same table format as the master list. Sub-lists need to offer something new before they should be given their own page. -- ScorpionO'422 15:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I supported the original based on the fact that the states are contiguous, and that the region has a name and definition (even if not used to group universities), and still think it is acceptable. But, maybe merging them all into one would be the best answer, per above. This distroys the topic, but i'm not seeing much benefit in having a list with sublists with very little extra info as a topic.YobMod 15:54, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- There seems to be a fair bit of over-splitting within this group of lists. I have proposed the merge, please feel free to take a look and discuss it. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 21:31, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Delist, and then merge. Whilst I still think this should be merged, even if this could stand alone legitimately the information is all out of date (fall 2007) so I think this should be delisted regardless. I have asked Scorpion about how I should go about things with the other lists. Rambo's Revenge (How am I doing?) 14:31, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- I would like to point out that title doesn't always need to be in boldface per WP:BOLDTITLE.—Chris! ct 05:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- A merge would be fine. Dabomb87 (talk) 16:54, 20 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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