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World Fantasy Award for Best Novella

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Nominator(s): PresN 23:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You know what this place needs? If you said "more nominations of speculative fiction award lists", you're right! To that end, here's the list for the World Fantasy Award for Best Novella, the award for those stories in that awkward length where they're a bit too long to be short stories but still too short to generally get published on their own, as presented by the biggest player in the Fantasy-specific literary awards. Like always, the list is based off of the dozens of Hugo, Nebula, etc. award lists I've pushed through here in the last few years, with specific attention paid to the comments received at the Novel category nomination from a month ago. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 23:48, 10 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - several of the authors have photos in their articles, could some of these not be added to make the list a bit more visually interesting........? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:13, 11 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from Zia Khan 22:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments—
  • Of authors who have won at least once, Hand has the most nominations,...... how many?
  • A ref for the last para
  • Not necessary but could you reduce these red-links? Zia Khan 19:20, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • The text mentions that Hand had 8 nominations in the sentence just before it.
  • The whole last paragraph is just counting the authors and nominations in the table below, there's no new information being given - WP:CALC
  • The only redlinks are for novellas which have won the award but don't have articles; I've been asked in prior nominations to do so for novels/novellas, since by winning a major award they prove that they're notable enough for an article. --PresN 23:05, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I mean you may create articles to reduce them. Zia Khan 23:47, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support – on prose. Zia Khan 22:38, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Another great article from PresN, consistent with his other award lists; have just found a few very minor issues, included below:

  • Reworded, and pulled the see also. --PresN 19:19, 21 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments from Crisco 1492
published in English or translated into English. - aren't these both, technically, published in English?
Why are your novellas in quotes? WP:ITALICS puts "books" (novellas are often published stand-alone, so they count) in italics, whereas short stories are in quotes.
and K. J. Parker, who won both times they were nominated. - what's with the singular "they"? Is Parker's gender unknown? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:07, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I was trying to be explicit that the work doesn't have to be originally written in English, just translated and published in that language in the prior year. Remove, though.
If you notice, some of them are in quotes and some of them are italicized- this corresponds to if the novella, in its original incarnation, was published by itself or as a part of a larger work. This, in turn, matches up with the publisher/publication column- for example, Night Moves is italicized, and the publisher is listed as Axolotl Press, but "The River of Night's Dreaming" is in quotes, and the publication listed is Whispers III (Doubleday).
  • That's an interesting way of approaching it. Has any consensus been formally established? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:10, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • To my knowledge, no- the MOS doesn't get any more specific about it, and WP:NOVELS doesn't have any guidelines either. That said, as far as I can tell it's the standard way of dealing with them- stand-alone works get italics, works that are a part of a longer work get quotes. After all, if it's in an anthology a novella is just a long short story, but if it's published on its own it's just a short book. Only awards try to give it a word-count definition. --PresN 18:28, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
First line of K. J. Parker's wikipedia page- "K. J. Parker is an author of fantasy fiction. The name is a pseudonym and the writer's true identity has never been revealed." --PresN 15:37, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on prose: solid list, and a congratulations to PresN for his work here. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:00, 25 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 20:38, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Should the "Awarded for" in the infobox also include the fact it should be in English, per the lead?
  • "The judges panel" pretty sure there should be an apostrophe in there somewhere...!
  • Picky but "with five nominations without winning" with... without reads a little odd to me.
  • Could consider adding Category:Novella awards to this (and other similar award categories to the others in this series?)

The Rambling Man (talk) 08:17, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • All four done; will replicate to other lists. --PresN 20:36, 5 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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