Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/World Fantasy Award for Best Novel/archive1

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The list was promoted by Giants2008 10:01, 11 November 2013 (UTC) [1].[reply]

World Fantasy Award for Best Novel edit

Featured list candidates/World Fantasy Award for Best Novel/archive1

Nominator(s): Pres N 18:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all, time to take a step back from increasingly-obscure video game-related lists, and return to speculative fiction award lists. We even have a non-obscure subject matter for y'all this time- the novels category of the World Fantasy Awards, the biggest player in the Fantasy-specific literary awards. Like always, the list is based off of the dozens of Hugo, Nebula, etc. award lists I've pushed through here in the last few years, so it should be pretty smooth sailing for this and future WFA category nominations. Thanks for reviewing! --Pres N 18:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Seems fine, but do we need an asterisk and blue background for each winner? I think that the blue background alone does this pretty well Cambalachero (talk) 12:19, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, you can't differentiate between things based on color alone, or color-blind people can't tell the difference. --Pres N 14:52, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Crisco 1492

Trophy is a copyvio, as the trophy itself is likely a copyrighted design and thus this is a derivative work of a non-free object.
previous year. - calendar year or 365 days before the awards ceremony? You say it further below, but this is the first mention
Tying in with that, do you need to repeat "previous year" whilst talking about the novel category?
late Spring - Means a completely different thing for people in the southern hemisphere. Find another wording that means the same for everyone (see WP:SEASON)
Should Ægypt be sorted after Z?
Are any of the unlinked authors notable? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:17, 15 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Removed image and addressed other concerns; I'm not sure if Æ should be sorted as AE or what, so I left it as the default; and no, to the best of my knowledge the unlinked authors don't need a redlink. --Pres N 17:57, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support on prose. Solid looking list. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 21:24, 23 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Combed through it a few times but I can't really find anything to quibble about, bar my own aesthetic preference for something other than an asterisk for the secondary highlight—to me, an asterisk seems a little too easy to miss at a glance; though maybe this could be changed by placing it before the name rather than after it ({{sort|Hellwing, Jim|*Jim Hellwig}} would keep things sorted properly). But that's wholly a personal taste thing. GRAPPLE X 21:19, 9 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Support and I can see little to suggest save these tweaks:

For The Mist you chose to link to Dark Forces but not also the publisher. Unless there is some protocol for this I suggest having both.

You use "Victor Gollancz Ltd" but don't use this style for e.g. Methuen Publishing Ltd or Simon & Schuster, Inc. I presume the first is the article title for purposes of disambiguation but I see no need for this inconsistency here.

Re "Collins Publishers" I see (a) no reason not to link to William Collins, Sons and (b) no evidence that this is the correct name, which would seem to be either "William Collins, Sons" or simply "Collins".

I don't know where it should go, but the link you have chosen for Macdonald is a set index article for names related to Clan Donald rather than a publisher.

It would assist readers if you copied the ref for The Club Dumas into the end of the Note about it being withdrawn.

Good work. Ben Mac Dui 13:23, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PS Forgot to say that the infobox looks a little sparse. I imagine comments above suggest an image was found to be a copyvio and its a pity the last two winners are red links, but is there a reason not include an image of say The Forgotten Beasts of Eld or The Drowning Girl?

Wouldn't be allowed under the NFCC. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 13:35, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough - it would be good to have something although I can't see anything generic on Commons. A picture of an author, e.g. Lavie Tidhar, would presumably be acceptable from a licensing point of view. Ben Mac Dui 16:18, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed all of the publishing issues and copied the ref into the note; shame you can't nest refs. I'd rather not add a photo unless it's of G. Willow Wilson, the current winner; I can't find anything of her that's free-use though. I'll ask some people on Flickr if they'll relicense their photos.--Pres N 18:02, 10 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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