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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 21:42, 22 March 2010 [1].

Venues of the 2010 Winter Olympics edit

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Nominator(s): Scorpion0422 18:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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I only recently realized that this page, which was nominated a few months ago, was not actually promoted. This is because Geraldk (talk · contribs), who nominated the page, disappeared during the process (this is exactly what happened before with List of 2008 Summer Olympics venues). I have cleaned up and updated the page and addressed the minor concerns from the previous FLC. Enjoy. -- Scorpion0422 18:46, 1 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comment Speaking of List of 2008 Summer Olympics venues, why is the name of that list different from the title of this one? Dabomb87 (talk) 02:44, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 17:39, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments yeah, liked this last time round and it was a shame it didn't quite creep over the line.
  • "The games ran from February 12 to February 28, 2010. A total of nine competition venues were used during the games, spread across Vancouver, Whistler, and the neighbouring areas of West Vancouver and Richmond." merge? "2010 during which nine venues were used, spread.."?
    • Done.
  • "will host the snow events" past tense now please.
    • Done.
  • "and will provide athlete housing" ditto.
    • Done.
  • "of the scheduled start " past now, so we can just use "actual" start of events.
    • Done.
  • "when he flew off the track" can we be more accurate here? This is a little tabloidy for me.
    • Fixed
  • " He was going" - not great English, perhaps "he was travelling at ..."
    • Done.
  • " the ice profile was changed" what does this mean?
    • Basically, that they filed the ice on the track down a bit to reduce the speed.
  • "A forest of cranes tower over" beautiful. But not encyclopedic.
    • Fixed.
  • Isn't there a commons template rather than awkward external link?
    • there used to, but a user went through a bunch of pages a while back, switiching the template to the link. I think the link is better for now, since there are no other ELs and there is already a wikibooks template there.

The Rambling Man (talk) 21:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 22:50, 4 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Arsenikk (talk) 10:21, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments
  • In the first table, shouldn't 'University Endowment Lands' actually link to University Endowment Lands, and not UBC?
    • Fixed link
  • Similarly, in the prose above, it would be more accurate to state that UBC Thunderdome Arean is in the University Endowment Lands.
    • Well, UBC is on the endowment lands, so I think it's simpler to state it's on UBC.
      • UBC also has a campus in Kelowna. UBC is an institution, UEL is a geographic area, akin to Richmond and West Vancouver. As it reads now, the prose is inconsistent. Arsenikk (talk) 23:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • 'Olympic Villages' is a common noun at least when used in plural.
  • Why are the locations linked in the first, but not the second, table?
    • Because they are all already linked in the above table.
      • For the matter of linking, every line in a table should be independent of each other, including independent of other tables. It could be that a reader chooses to consult the non-competitive table, because that is what they are interested in; the lack of linking also created internal inconsistency. Arsenikk (talk) 23:23, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was sure there was consensus to not use the {{commonscat-inline}} and {{commons-inline}} templates.
    • Fair enough. Switched.
  • I would have though 'List of 2010 Winter Olympics venues' is more appropriate to the naming conventions of Wikipedia. Anyhow, consistency must be established.

Arsenikk (talk) 16:13, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. -- Scorpion0422 00:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support great list; nice to see list covering "current events". Arsenikk (talk) 10:21, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Parutakupiu (talk) 23:45, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments:
  • I found both "games" and "Games" when the text refers to the Olympics. Capitalize the lowercase instances;
    • Done.
  • "The games ran from February 12 to February 28, 2010 during which nine competition venues were used during the games, spread across Vancouver...";
    • Done.
  • "... have been completed and provided athlete housing" — unnecessary now that the Games are over;
    • Done.
  • "According to the CEO of VANOC, Joseph Furlong, the Committee..." — that last "Committee" is not directly clear (VANOC or IOC?). How about "According to its CEO, Joseph Furlong, VANOC..." or "According to CEO John Furlong, VANOC..."?
    • Done.
  • "... as early as possible." — the original quote does not end with "possible" so place ellipses (...) at the end, and move the period after the closing quotation mark;
    • Would the ellipses really be necessary?
      • The major problem was the sentence in which that quotation was inserted not ending with a period, but you already fixed that. As for the ellipses, I was just following WP:ELLIPSES. Parutakupiu (talk) 23:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "... all three of the competition venues at Whistler..."
    • Done.
  • "The last competition venues used during the Games were completed in February 2009..." — what do you mean? The venues used for the last events of the Olympics? Or the venues that were completed last?
    • Fixed, switched everything before "were completed" to "Final construction"
  • "... tested prior to use for Olympic events." — "prior to use" is so formal, how about "... tested before hosting the Olympic events."?
    • Done.
  • Since University of British Columbia Thunderbird Arena (which does not exist per se) is pipe-linked to the redirect "UBC Thunderbird Arena", might as well display it as such in the text, to agree with the naming in the competition venue table below;
    • Done.
  • "... were pre-existing and have required minimal renovation to prepare in preparation for the Olympics.";
    • Done.
  • "Of From the venues that were newly constructed venues in preparation for the Games,...";
    • Done.
  • "... the Richmond Olympic Oval in Richmond and UBC Thunderbird Arena..." — add a comma after "and";
    • Done.
  • The lead image (BC Place) can be increased to 300px as per MoS;
    • Done.
  • Update the links from all the references concerning the venues (references #12–20 and #22–27) as they no longer point to the venue-specific page.
    • Fixed links.
  • No external links? Then why a section for them?
    • Above I was told to switch the commons embedded link to the template, so I did that and left the two templates in the section.
  • There is no alt text for the Richmond Olympic Oval image, and the alt text for the ski jumps image is wrong as it describes the place in a warmer period... without snow.
    • Don't forget this one. Parutakupiu (talk) 23:58, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
      • I didn't forget. I really really dislike that policy and I refuse to go along with it. -- Scorpion0422 03:17, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Parutakupiu (talk) 01:38, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking a look. -- Scorpion0422 15:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from Giants2008 (27 and counting) 21:05, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • Comma should be put after "February 12 to February 28, 2010".
  • "began in March 2006 and completed only eight months later." Missing "was" in there.
  • Another "was" missing in "Final construction completed in February 2009".
  • Two Whistler Sliding Track links with a grand total of one word in between.
  • Give the New York Times italics in reference 9. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:16, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    • All fixed. Thanks for the suggestions. -- Scorpion0422 23:57, 10 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support – Was waiting on the comments below to be addressed after all of mine were. The list meets FL standards (note that I added a comma to an addition made since my review). Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:11, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Coments

  • Why did VANOC need to create an external cauldron? This should be answered in the article and should be easy to reference.
    • The original text did say "with BC Place being an indoor stadium", but I've made that a bit clearer and expanded it with a new ref.
  • Alt text is needed for all the images per #5 of FL Criteria.
  • A big deal was made about the First Nations tribes whose land was used for the venues. Would something about this be appropriate for the list or is it more suitable in an article about the venues?
    • I think it's more suitable for the more specific articles. This is really just meant to be a rundown of the venues.
  • Otherwise everything is good and I will happily support once these issues are addressed. User:H1nkles citius altius fortius 22:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Looks good, I am happy to Support. H1nkles citius altius fortius 15:03, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support I was nearly happy last time round, and I'm actually happy now. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:33, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Rather short, but I see no problems. Reywas92Talk 21:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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