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The list was promoted by Giants2008 00:09, 26 January 2013 [1].

Theodore Sturgeon Award edit

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Nominator(s): PresN 00:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all, back again. Switching off from video games back to SF fiction award lists, we have here the Theodore Sturgeon award- given for science fiction short stories published in English anywhere in the world in the prior year. Not as well known, perhaps as the Hugo or Nebula awards, but bears the distinction that unlike those awards, the Sturgeon (and its novel counterpart, the Campbell) is decided not by a vote among fans or American SF authors, but by a small panel of the kind of SF authors who have Wikipedia articles. The format is, of course, pretty much identical to all of the prior dozens of SF lists I've put through here, and hopefully I've remembered to include all of the comments and suggestions made in prior FLCs. Thank you all very much for reviewing! --PresN 00:13, 29 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 13:09, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • ", one of the leading authors of the Golden Age of Science Fiction from 1939 to 1950." Could do with a reference if its not already by the ref at the end of the para
  • It's in that reference. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • could link University of Kansas
  • Already linked in the first sentence. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • so it is! Don't how I missed that! NapHit (talk) 13:09, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "During the 26 nomination years, 154 authors have had works nominated" would change one of the uses of nomination, reads a bit uneasily having them in close succession.

NapHit (talk) 05:14, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replied inline. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Excellent work as always by PresN! NapHit (talk) 13:09, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)
Comments from Crisco 1492
  • "his heirs, including his widow, Jayne Sturgeon, and James Gunn, Director of the Center for the Study of Science Fiction." - The way this is written it sounds like Gunn was his heir. Two strategically placed mdashes or ndashes would help here.
  • Added- he's the current Director of the center. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Seems not. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • If the list is sortable, shouldn't the author's names all be linked?
  • Sortability has nothing to do with linking all authors- just that every instance of an author that is linked should be, rather than just some nebulous "first" link. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hadn't realised they don't all have articles. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are all the winners notable (i.e. should they be redlinked?). Authors?
  • Yes, I suppose they should be. All winning works/authors linked. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Foundation is a dab link
  • Whoops, fixed. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • File:Theodore Sturgeon Award permanent trophy.jpg is a 3D non-architectural non-functional work, and thus would not fall under the freedom of panorama exception in the US. I've nominated it for deletion, but a fair-use image would be acceptable.
  • Well, if it gets deleted, I'll move it to en-wiki as fair use. --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Replied inline, thanks for reviewing! --PresN 20:44, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Missed one. 2008 had two winners? Any back story? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:11, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • None that I've found, they just decided to award a tie that year. --PresN 23:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on prose. Image is still up for deletion, but would be valid for FU — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:37, 3 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 22:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Per WP:YEAR, not need to repeat the century in a year range if it's the same.
  • Who was/is James Gunn? Without an article it's hard to understand why he would be on the original jury.
  • He's linked in the first paragraph? Where it also mentions that he was the director of the center that gives out the award? He's also an author, editor, and sci-fi historian. --PresN 20:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "are submitted " how? By post? Internet? Any ideas?
  • The sources don't say- but given that on another page on their website they list the names of people who nominated works for the past few years and I recognize every single one of them, I suspect it's "however they want to" as they're all meeting each other at conferences and talking to each other on the phone and over email all the time anyway. The nominations might be "open" to readers, but it seems to me that it's really only open to people who are big names in the field already. --PresN 20:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Infobox: "The best short science fiction published in English in the prior calendar year" short what?
  • I'll be having a word with the script I wrote to build these tables about that. Done. --PresN 20:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Otherwise, excellent as ever. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:12, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One of these days I'll post an FLC and you won't have any problems with it at all! But that day is not today. Thanks for reviewing! --PresN 20:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That day is the day I hang up my FLC boots! Your submissions are great, and I just make tinkering suggestions, nothing is ever fundamental. Well done again, and thanks for addressing my concerns. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:58, 4 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Good work. — ΛΧΣ21 20:06, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Quick comment – It looks like the image mentioned above has been deleted. This has left a red link to the photo in the infobox; if the image is not brought back under fair use, this link should be taken out. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:04, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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