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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by SchroCat 20:09, 11 November 2014 [1].

Pakistan national women's cricket team record by opponent edit

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Nominator(s): Khadar Khani (talk) 03:24, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This list is based on similar list, South Africa national women's cricket team record by opponent. I have worked on the list a few month back and now I believe this is according to the FL criteria. Look forward to your comments and suggestions. Regards, --Khadar Khani (talk) 03:24, 25 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Quick comment looks really light on prose to me. I'd love to see some more detail ahead of each table. I know the SA list was promoted 18 months ago, but I don't think it meets what I would expect from a featured list any more. More discussion over the games, the significant results etc.... The Rambling Man (talk) 19:43, 28 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. Great list, especially after the lede was expanded, well-sourced. --Carioca (talk) 21:05, 5 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment Looks really good - another job well done by Sahara4u. Just a minor comment - is "Pakistan Women" a proper noun? The photo caption uses this, but the tables say "Pakistan women". I'll have a more indepth look at the list later. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 07:32, 8 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from — NickGibson3900 Talk
;Comments from NickGibson3900 Talk
  • They lost to the West Indies in 13 matches. - "...they have lost..."
  • In the 2009 addition, they advanced to the Super Six round defeating Sri Lanka in group stage match by 57 runs - "...in a group"
  • Pakistan women at Sydney, 2009 ICC Women's World Twenty20 - Rephrase; maybe: "Pakistan women at the 2009 ICC Women's World Twenty20 in Sydney"

I Like it! Very good article and my suggested are just a bit of nitpicking - NickGibson3900 Talk 07:23, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from —Vensatry (ping) 16:40, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from —Vensatry (ping)
  • "The Pakistan national women's cricket team represents Pakistan in international women's cricket" is verbose.
  • The subsequent sentence is just too long. Also Ref #1 and #2 doesn't explicitly state the claim.
  • What is addition?
  • Why is "S" capitalized in "Super Six"?
  • I never meant you should de-capitalize "S". Given that we don't have a dedicated article on stages of cricket tournaments and since "Super Six" is a proper noun it should be capitalized but placed with in quotes. —Vensatry (ping) 14:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "they advanced to the Super Six round defeating Sri Lanka in a group stage match by 57 runs" - Ref. doesn't meet WP:V
  • 5th->fifth, 4 wickets->four wickets and 3 wickets->three wickets
  • "As of 2014, Pakistan played their first Test match against Sri Lanka in April 1998" - WP:DATED is irrelevant and unnecessary here.
  • Ref #8 and #9 doesn't fully meet WP:V
  • I don't think there was a playoff held for the sixth place in the 2009 edition. —Vensatry (ping) 14:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "and received their first Test defeat" - awkward phrasing
  • The subsequent sentence desperately needs a copy-edit. Given that they played just three matches it could simply be re-written in plain language.
  • "The team have competed" -> The team has competed
  • Same applies when you say "Pakistan have". Pakistan is considered a single entity in this context and should be accompanied by a singular verb. —Vensatry (ping) 14:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "As of ..." needed for the sentence which talks about their T20Is
  • "They defeated Ireland in 11 matches, and lost to England in 5 T20Is." - Why include England here?

The list needs a fair amount of copy-edit before it gets promoted. In its current state, it clearly doesn't meet criterion #1. —Vensatry (ping) 18:31, 13 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Vensatry: Thanks for your kind review, I think your concerns are now addressed. --Khadar Khani (talk) 05:06, 14 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
    • While the first two paras have improved after your edits, the stuff which talks about T20Is still needs some touch-up. They aren't chronological and doesn't have a proper flow. —Vensatry (ping) 14:19, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
      • Rephrased and rearranged! @Vensatry: thanks for revisiting, hope this will be OK now. --Khadar Khani (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
        • @Sahara4u: I'll definitely have a look at the list, probably by tomorrow or the day after. Cheers! —Vensatry (ping) 13:33, 2 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Additional comments (re-visit)
  • "They have competed against 10 different opponents, and their ... " Ref fails to meet WP:V
    • The first part of the sentence is still not verifiable. Also the ref. you've added is not convincing enough to say that it was Pakistan's first ever win in the format. —Vensatry (ping) 19:41, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The team has played most frequently against the same team" - Confusing text. Desperately needs a mention of the team's name.
  • Ref #16 and #17 are mapped to the same URL.

—Vensatry (ping) 18:41, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support - Greatly improved since my first visit. If you have time can you review this one? —Vensatry (ping) 16:40, 8 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]


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