Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of songs recorded by Jason Newsted/archive1
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This list was based on my earlier FL List of songs recorded by Faith No More, with near-identical formatting; however the content covers a musician's output over several groups and projects as opposed to that of a single group. The article isn't as well illustrated as the prior example, as the additional field needed for the central table meant there wasn't enough room for a column of images, nor was there enough white space that it seemed necessary to fill it. I've offset this a little with a pseudo infobox-like table (using a similar formatting to that in List of accolades received by David Lynch) in order to give some aesthetic visual. I do anticipate a few further entries to this list, which is why I put off bringing it here for a while, but as the man's newest group has recently announced a large joint tour (Gigantour) I feel any upcoming release is probably going to be a while away yet, though it will be swiftly incorporated into this. Although it's been a few months since I've nominated anything, I should still be around to respond to any questions or requests made. Thanks in advance for anyone having a look at this.
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- Support - Good going! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:23, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comment from RadioKAOS
- The Gov't Mule entries in the list appear to be all the songs on The Deep End, Volume 2, rather than those track(s) which Newsted actually played on. The Deep End project involved dozens of bassists, most of whom appeared on only one track. Also, Gov't Mule has had many live releases, but I don't recall whether or not Newsted performed on any live shows which were then released. RadioKAOS – Talk to me, Billy 04:49, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A check of mulebase.com shows that Newsted played five consecutive shows with Gov't Mule in April 2002, but I'm not aware of any of those shows being featured on a live release (the band offers downloads of most concerts, but that's different). He did play with them on May 3, 2003 in New Orleans, which served as the wrap-up of the Deep End project and was released as The Deepest End, Live in Concert. I didn't have time for extensive searching when I made the previous comments, but it appears that he only played "Trying Not to Fall" on both releases. RadioKAOS – Talk to me, Billy 21:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a great catch on the live album, I'll start sourcing that now (wasn't on Newsted's website discography so I didn't think to look for it). I knew it was unlikely he played on every track but without knowing of any reliable source that gave me a definitive answer as to how many and which I figured that listing them all was safest, but with a track to look out for I might be able to turn up something I can use. Thanks! GRAPPLE X 00:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, with a bit of searching, I found some transcriptions of the liner notes for The Deepest End, Live in Concert, which not only specifies what Newsted played on the live one, but also that he only had one track on the studio one. I've trimmed the fat accordingly. All in all a fruitful search, so thanks again. GRAPPLE X 01:17, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- That's a great catch on the live album, I'll start sourcing that now (wasn't on Newsted's website discography so I didn't think to look for it). I knew it was unlikely he played on every track but without knowing of any reliable source that gave me a definitive answer as to how many and which I figured that listing them all was safest, but with a track to look out for I might be able to turn up something I can use. Thanks! GRAPPLE X 00:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- A check of mulebase.com shows that Newsted played five consecutive shows with Gov't Mule in April 2002, but I'm not aware of any of those shows being featured on a live release (the band offers downloads of most concerts, but that's different). He did play with them on May 3, 2003 in New Orleans, which served as the wrap-up of the Deep End project and was released as The Deepest End, Live in Concert. I didn't have time for extensive searching when I made the previous comments, but it appears that he only played "Trying Not to Fall" on both releases. RadioKAOS – Talk to me, Billy 21:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 03:28, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 23:16, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 03:28, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
- I think "...And Justice for All" and "−Human" need to sort under A and H when the page first loads. Similarly, "His Scales Are His Pride" needs to be above "Holier Than Thou".
- Done the first and last, but I'm not sure what to do about "−Human". The minus sign is pronounced ("Minus Human") but not spelt out, it would seem odd to me to sort it under H but read it as beginning with M, but similarly it seems odd to sort it under M without an actual written M. Maybe leave it as the sole grawlix listing? GRAPPLE X 00:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, so the minus sign is pronounced? Sorry, didn't realise that... In that case, I reckon it'd be worth moving the song down to the bottom of the list, as that's where it's automatically sorted it anyway. Also, "...And Justice for All" isn't sorting under A. Something like
"{{Sort|And Justice for All|...And Justice for All}}"
would work.- Moved. I had assumed that all the punctuation would sort together, I should have checked it manually first. Sorted now. GRAPPLE X 23:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- The album was sorting correcting, but the song wasn't. I've made that change here, plus a couple of others. Plus revert if you don't like them. A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Moved. I had assumed that all the punctuation would sort together, I should have checked it manually first. Sorted now. GRAPPLE X 23:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, so the minus sign is pronounced? Sorry, didn't realise that... In that case, I reckon it'd be worth moving the song down to the bottom of the list, as that's where it's automatically sorted it anyway. Also, "...And Justice for All" isn't sorting under A. Something like
- Done the first and last, but I'm not sure what to do about "−Human". The minus sign is pronounced ("Minus Human") but not spelt out, it would seem odd to me to sort it under H but read it as beginning with M, but similarly it seems odd to sort it under M without an actual written M. Maybe leave it as the sole grawlix listing? GRAPPLE X 00:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- As a website, I don't think Allmusic needs to be italicised.
- It's an artefact with the template used (the
|work=
field is italicised while the|publisher=
one isn't). I could move both into the publisher field to have it display as "AllMusic, AllRovi" if that would seem better. GRAPPLE X 23:43, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]- Yeah, that might work... A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- It's an artefact with the template used (the
- Might be worth linking "Out of My Mind" and "Holy Water" to Out of My Mind / Holy Water.
- Just so I'm sure: Metallica and Flotsam and Jetsam both recorded songs called "Fade to Black"?
A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 12:25, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
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Comments (did you address A Thousand Doors' outstanding comments above that you didn't reply to?)
The Rambling Man (talk) 14:56, 15 June 2013 (UTC)[reply] |
Sorry guys, I totally dropped the ball on this one. I'll start working through these now, but this might have to be put on hiatus for stability issues (There's an album on the way that will need to be added in due time). Sorry again for keeping everyone waiting here. GRAPPLE X 23:18, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- Nice, but "Newsted was never fully accepted by the group, who frequently refused his musical input" sounds quite strong. I would also have a mini-table with # of songs with each artist/group. Nergaal (talk) 05:32, 1 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
User:Grapple X, do you wish to withdraw this nomination for the moment? The Rambling Man (talk) 16:46, 18 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
- User:Grapple X (wee nudge)... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:23, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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