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List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Malcolm Marshall edit

List of international cricket five-wicket hauls by Malcolm Marshall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): Zia Khan 22:04, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

One of the finest fast bowler of his time, Malcolm Marshall contributed to take the West Indian cricket to the victory stand. He was a symbol of terror for batsmen and accumulated most of his fifer against the teams which contained strong batting lines at that time. Here is his fifers' list, which I think, is according to the FLC criteria. As always, I'll be here for your constructive comments and suggestions. Regards, Zia Khan 22:04, 6 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from Crisco 1492 (talk)
Comments from Crisco 1492
  • He was named one of the Wisden Cricketers of the Year in 1983, and the cricket almanack Wisden described him "one of the greatest fast bowlers of all time." - Odd to introduce Wisden (the publication) after the award.
  • Made his ODI debut -- Have not introduced One-Day Internationals yet.
  • His career-best figures for an innings were 4 wickets for 18 runs against Australia in December 1991, a match which the West Indies Lost at the Melbourne Cricket Ground, Melbourne by 9 runs. - Does this mean he never got a fifer for ODIs?
  • Added a short statement. Zia Khan 05:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for the corrections, ironic ones! Zia Khan 05:33, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks a million. Zia Khan 05:52, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Harrias
;Comments from Harrias talk
  • "Malcolm Marshall, a former West Indian cricketer, who represented the West Indies cricket team." Appears to be missing a word, and is somewhat tautological. I would merge this with the later sentences, so it reads: "Malcolm Marshall, a former right-arm fast bowler, represented the West Indies cricket team in 81 Tests between 1978 to 1992. In cricket, a five-wicket haul... ...in their cricketing careers. In Test cricket, Marshall took 376 wickets, including 22 five-wicket hauls. The cricket almanack Wisden..."
  • I'm not sure that the final sentence, and quote about the leg-cutter is particularly relevant to this list, or at least, the relevance is not explained.
  • Have a look now! Zia Khan 18:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "...at the Adelaide Oval, Adelaide." I think it is safe to simply write "...at the Adelaide Oval." Similarly for the Melbourne Cricket Ground.
  • "...at the Old Trafford," "the" is not needed: "at Old Trafford," is fine. Similarly for Headingley.
  • Commas needed between the venue and the location for #6 and #7 in the table.
  • #3 Should presumably have a different note: that Madras is now named Chennai.
  • Done. Actually, this was #4. Zia Khan 18:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. Thanks for your kind comments! Zia Khan 18:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks a lot. Zia Khan 10:50, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from —Vensatry (Ping me)
Comments from Vensatry
  • Ref #1 is not working, check the URL
  • Italicise "Wisden" in "Wisden Cricketers of the Year"
  • "and was named as one of their Cricketers of the Year in 1983" who was named, Wisden? —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • No need to re-iterate test in "His first Test five-wicket"
  • Removed Test. Zia Khan 11:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "He took 9 wickets for 41 in the match", something missing here
  • "owing to his man-of-the-match performance the West Indies won the match by an innings and 156 runs", you mean to say that West Indies won the match because he was awarded the MoM; also too many "the" in the quotes sentence
  • I mean WI won because of his man-of-the-match performance. Removed one "the". Zia Khan 11:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • You mean he was adjudged MoM before West Indies won the match? —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Where did I say this? Rephrased, anyway?
  • "Marshall made his One Day International (ODI) debut during the England against at Headingley": grammar fail
  • The penultimate sentence of the last para is too long.
  • Shortened the statement. Zia Khan 11:09, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Remove the the that precedes West Indies, and Lost -> lost —Vensatry (Ping me) 11:29, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. BTW, have a look at The Rambling Man's comment here. Zia Khan 11:53, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • We'd normally use the depending upon the type of sentence. See this one for example. "a match the West Indies lost at the Melbourne Cricket Ground" sounds odd to me. —Vensatry (Ping me) 12:21, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Exactly, same here. Fixed, as you suggested! Zia Khan 13:59, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Don't think the category "One Day International cricket records" is relevant here since he has not taken fifers in ODIs.

—Vensatry (Ping me) 10:39, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the comments, appreciated! Zia Khan 14:01, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Further comments
  • Date for the 19th entry and Econ. for the 11th entry are wrong.
  • Entry #1 has only four batsmen listed and #7 has only six. Check the last two columns once again.
  • In ref #10, author=agency?

—Vensatry (Ping me) 12:56, 13 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks a lot. Zia Khan 10:50, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 20:04, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "represented the West Indies cricket team in 81 Tests between 1978 to 1992." This should be either "between 1978 and 1992" or "from 1978 to 1992", not what's there now.
  • "described him 'one of the greatest fast bowlers of all time'". Needs "as" after "him".
  • It would be nice if ICC was spelled out.
  • "against same team" could use "the" before "same". Giants2008 (Talk) 01:20, 12 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Done. Added a note for ICC. Zia Khan
  • Thanks a lot! Zia Khan 17:02, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 08:46, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • Lead caption isn't a complete sentence, so no need for a full stop.
  • Just a little odd that you link "fast bowling" before "bowling"...
  • Linked "fast bowler" to bowling and unlinked "bowler"!? Zia Khan 04:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • "as one of the inaugural members" -> "as an inaugural member"
  • "feat only once more" no real need for "only".
  • "He never took a five-wicket haul in ODIs. His ..." perhaps merge, or semi-colon.
  • Sortable table so if you insist on linking "drawn" then you need to do it every time.
  • Ref 1 and ref 18 title need work (lose the hyphens).
  • This is according to the source. Zia Khan 04:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • Or at the least, be consistent with spacing around the slashes, either spaced every time or completely unspaced.

The Rambling Man (talk) 20:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thanks for the kind review! Zia Khan 04:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]
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