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The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:44, 17 November 2009 [1].

List of international cricket centuries by Adam Gilchrist edit

Nominator(s): The Rambling Man (talk) 13:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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Thought it was about time I did some work for a change. So, a content fork of the featured article Adam Gilchrist... Comments appreciated. The Rambling Man (talk) 13:37, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments Support from Bencherlite
Resolved comments from Bencherlite

About as good as I'd expect from you, which is meant as a compliment! Just a few thoughts:

  • Worth saying at the start that he's retired / a former international? As it is, we don't find that out until the end of the 2nd para.
  • "One of the most destructive" – would it be better to introduce this with something like "Described by the BBC as..."? In fact, would this quote be better somewhere else (e.g. in the first para), as it doesn't relate specifically to the match that you go on to mention?
  • "highest ever" and "quickest ever" in the second para, but "second-fastest" in the third para – perhaps a couple more hyphens to add?
  • "Australia never lost a match in which Gilchrist scored a century" – never lost a ODI, perhaps, for clarity
  • Second sentence of the third paragraph lacks a verb.
  • "Usually batting at number seven, Gilchrist has scored" since he's now an ex.
  • "Upon his retirement" – by the time of his retirement?
  • Are you using spaced hyphens instead of dashes in the references? Tsk, tsk.
    • The references are copies-and-pastes from their original source (i.e. Cricinfo) - would you prefer me to en-dash it, dash it? 14:16, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
      • Allow me to do it for you, then! A "find and replace" using MSWord did the trick, and I even threw in an "mdash" for the Border—Gavasker Trophy. BencherliteTalk 14:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the key, you refer to Test innings only, and not to H/A/N (for that pesky ODI in Barbados). (how dare you fix these things before I've even finished my cursory review...(!))
  • Confirm that the one image is free-use, suitably tagged and has alt text; there are no dab-links; the external links work; the sources used are appropriate and reliable.

That's enough for now, I think. BencherliteTalk 14:01, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

With those speedy changes, I can't see any reason at present not to support, but will keep an eye on things! I'm fairly sure that "highest ever" and "quickest ever" ought to hyphenated, but that I'm sure will be sorted out as things go along. BencherliteTalk 14:27, 29 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the number of the Test should be in there like most of them. It would also serve to show that it was the rather steep decline in his Test form in the last few years. YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 06:46, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • You mean his test number or the overall test number? The Rambling Man (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • On further reflection, I think it's unnecessary as I have already mentioned his debut and retirement in the lead, and each century is dated, so if the reader wishes to draw the conclusion that he slumped towards the end of his Test career then he should be capable of doing so relatively easily without yet another column. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:17, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
More research needs to be done, as in many of these tons, a record of some kind was created, because of his high scoring. I've put in a few off the top of my head but there are many more. The 131 v SL in SCG 99 helped break a record for the biggest successful runchase at the SCG. In those days, ~270 was a a very high score. The one in NZ in 2000 was also resulted in a 350 odd score which was an Aus record IIRC. Many of them involved very large partnserhips and records with ME Waugh. Becuase of the way he played, SR is also very important to why Australia was so successful. More details need to be added as almost every century resulted in an Aus victory or completely reversed the match sitaution, like the Mumbai 2001 or Hobart 99. YellowMonkey (bananabucket!) 06:53, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Is 270 still the highest score chased at the SCG? It was in 2003. Aaroncrick (talk) 07:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Still the highest run-chase at the SCG in an ODI. [2]. Aaroncrick (talk) 08:09, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'll add a bit but this isn't supposed to be a "we love Gilchrist" article...! Factual statements of records are one thing, saying things are "important" for various other issues is most likely OR. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I think "highest run chase at the SCG" is a little bit too much like trivia. The second highest run chase in history has a little more gravitas. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:20, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Finally, that source suggests that 270 is the current record, achieved in 2009. The one which Gilchrist contributed to was 260, right? The second-highest? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:36, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Can strike rate be added to the ODI centuries table? Aaroncrick (talk) 07:59, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe interesting to mention how he striked at over 100 in 13 of the 16 ODI centuries? Aaroncrick (talk) 09:28, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thus noted. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:50, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Scoring 149 runs from 104 deliveries, including eight sixes and thirteen fours, Gilchrist made the highest ever score and quickest ever century in the final of the World Cup.[5] Do you really need to say "ever"? Aaroncrick (talk)
    No, probably not, so I'll remove... The Rambling Man (talk) 09:38, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, leaning towards support. Will wait until next week to see if YellowMonkey is happy. Aaroncrick (talk) 10:16, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion perhaps indicate those matches in which he won the Man of the Match award? BencherliteTalk 09:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - Looks good. Aaroncrick (talk) Review me! 23:59, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • End of first paragraph: Don't like the repetition of "Describing" and "described" in the same sentence as it is now. Maybe change the second to "called"?
  • Commas after "against Sri Lanka in 1999" and "128 from 98 deliveries against New Zealand"?
  • "Gilchrist scored centuries against all other nine Test nations." Move "other" to after "nine", where it seems to belong. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 01:10, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Support – Meets FL standards after the fixes. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 03:18, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support: Everything looks ok. ≈ Chamal talk ¤ 06:12, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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