Oppose.
This is List of freshwater islands in Scotland. The term specifically excludes seawater and brackish water, yet in the "In Rivers" section, you state that you include brackish water islands in the section. Is this the case for the other sections and, if not, why not? Or alternatively these brackish ones need specifically removing or denoting in some way.
- Islands generally in freshwater that are reached by high tides would only be in rivers. I can't think of a freshwater loch that is occasionally brackish (that would make it an estuary). I do not know for sure how many but there are only a small number of them - Inch Geck in the Ythan and Alloa Inch would be examples. Freshwater as such is not brackish, but that does not mean that a predominantly "freshwater island" cannot occasionally be reached by the tides. If you look at the above examples they are clearly in rivers rather than offshore and I don't believe it would make sense to have a separate list for them, but I can easily check through and indicate which ones are below the mean high water spring tide line.
- I don't know the relevence of the last point. Presumably that would denote it as freshwater or brackish. If that is the case, it sounds like a good idea. I'm really no expert on the complexities, I'm just trying to ensure the correct terminology is being used. RR 18:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Yes, it does mean that the highest tides would reach this point on a monthly basis. I have commenced the exercise.
- Done.
Not a fan of the decorative colour. If it is necessary enough (it isn't in my opinion due to the sortabile nature of the table) then WP:COLOUR cannot be the only way to convey information.
- The sort conveyed the information too but I have removed this apparently unhelpful method (see also above).
- "No part of Scotland is more than about 80 kilometres (50 mi)" more than about is awkward. How much is about? If there is somewhere that is 82 km then just say "No part ... is more than 85 km" away.
- Not the best reference, but this is surprisingly obscure info. The ref says "about", which given the very complex nature of the west coast (I believe the second most indented in the world after Norway) is perhaps understandable. I would make it a definitive "45 miles" but see Centre points of the United Kingdom. The subject is not well-researched I fear.
- Okay, I get where you are coming from. Starting from this, I entered the co-ordinates 56.819296, -4.204 in this radial distance tool. With the radius set to 50 miles, a circle from any point reaches sea. It is therefore safe to assume everywhere is 50 miles. This brings me back to my initial contention. It was not (so much) the lack of reference. It was the imprecise use of "about". Every part is either closer than 50 miles or not. I agree that the distance is (more likely) somewhere around 45 mi. But without a reference, we should maintain precision and say no more than 50 miles away. RR 20:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done.
Eilean na Comhairle.[Note 6] Why the full stop?
- Removed
"Eilean a' Faof, Eilean Mhic Fail Eilean Mòr, Tearead, Tearead Thioram, Tearead Fhliuch" is there a missing comma somewhere in the middle.
- Fixed
- Not sure what the alternative is short of delinking the island. The castle is its main claim to fame and it hardly merits an article in in its own right.
- My point is if that Eilean Mór is notable, then it should be redlinked (or you could make a stub for it). Otherwise it shouldn't be linked. RR 18:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Given that Eilean Mòr is only really notable for the castle, this is a bit of a conundrum. If I can think of something worth saying I'll create a stub.
- I have removed the link from the island and added it to the "See also section".
- "each of which have played an important part in Scottish history. " What is important? Citation, perhaps?
- Perhaps this is over stating the case. I have added references into the text here, but "each of which have had a role to play in Scottish history." might be closer to the mark. Done.
- "although it is also used for terra firma surrounded by marsh". Does terra firma mean surrounded by marsh? If so you are missing punctuation between the two entities.
- Terra firma just means "dry land".
- Okay I didn't know that. Will I be the only one? Probably not. Suggest linking (to disambig or wiktionary) for those as ignorant as myself. :) RR 18:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Done i.e. linked to Wiktionary.
- Are the redlinks more notable than the unlinked Lochs?
- In my view they are the most likely to have their own article next, but I confess this is a fairly subjective judgement based on their size, location and fame.
- That is okay, as long as it is not random. I have no concept of what would cause a loch to pass notability criteria, but if you say they are the biggest and more notable ones then I'll take your word for it. RR 18:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Rambo's Revenge (talk) 17:56, 25 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Thanks for your comments. I have made a start and will return asap. Ben MacDui 09:02, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
One more thing. To what do the (2) and (3) refer. Whatever it is needs clarifying. Rambo's Revenge (talk) 20:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- Added "Numbers in brackets indicate that there are (2) or (3) islands of the same name in the body of water referred to." as a note.
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