Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of film formats/archive2

List of film formats edit

This has had a failed FLC before. To somewhat copy my last opening comments, let me first say that I am completely aware of the red-links problems that this list has, and I am (slowly) doing my best to deal with them, short of de-linking all of them (which I think would be unfair to both the list and the readers). If that dooms this FLC to failure, so be it. I unfortunately had to drop the last candidacy due to outside work, but I hope to continue where the last nomination left off. I have standardized the website references around a more standard citation formatting, although I have declined to use the cite web template as such, mainly because I prefer the simpler way to render what is essentially the same text. Our last discussion also included debate over whether or not inline citations were necessary (I'm neutral).

So to quickly summarize what I anticipate to be some of the issues:

Reference formatting
Inline citations or not?
Redlinkage issues

Many thanks in advance for your comments, Girolamo Savonarola 02:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: How can one format have been first used in 2007? Rmhermen 02:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting...that edit seemed to have slipped below my radar. I'm assuming that it means that this format won't have a premiered work until 2007. Let me investigate further on that entry. Any other comments in the meantime? Girolamo Savonarola 03:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've deleted the 2007 one, since the list doesn't count formats which haven't been completed. (I can't find enough information to fully document it as distinct from the Ultra Toruscope format anyway.) Girolamo Savonarola 03:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Object. I'm afraid you've anticipated the problems- there's too many redlinks and I think you definitely need inline citations, so you can actually check the data from the very long list of references. Less constructively, the table also breaks the scroll lock, which is a bit of a pain and I'm not very keen on the format of it (although I haven't got any suggestions on that I'm afraid). (sorry forgot to sign earlier) --G Rutter 22:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for your comments. What does "break the scroll lock" mean? Girolamo Savonarola 22:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Um... did I mean that? What I was trying to say was that the table is too wide for my screen resolution (1024x768, so fairly standard), so I have to scroll sideways to read the whole table, which is a Bad Thing (at least as far as I'm concerned). On the redlinks issue, it depends whether you think that the lists are a good thing in and of themselves (which I probably do), but the Wikipedia definition of the point of lists is "bringing together a group of related articles that are likely to be of interest to a user researching that topic"- therefore redlinks are the most important issue. You might want to argue with that, but that is one of the main criterion for currently creating a Featured List. --G Rutter 20:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Object too many red links.__Seadog^♪ 20:40, 2 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is that really all that can be said? I simply don't see how either delinking the redlinks or making trivial stubs of them really adds any value to the list. I'm more than happy to tackle other issues, but if redlinkage is the only objection you have, then it seems to me that an Object is more like throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Basically the content might as well be worthless? Girolamo Savonarola 03:02, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry if I came across that way...I was just pointing something else out. I could have said more but it has all been said. — Seadog 18:07, 9 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Object. Yes, creating a stub on each redlink is usually adviced in such situations. I myself don't see the point in a list of non-existing articles. No, this isn't my only reason for objection, actually there are a lot more, but I think it would be pointless to provide them all until the most important problem gets fixed. Michaelas10 (Talk) 20:15, 4 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]