Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of career achievements by Kobe Bryant/archive1

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The list was promoted by Scorpion0422 22:19, 4 April 2009 [1].

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List of career achievements by Kobe Bryant

Nominator(s): —Chris! _ct

• Featured list candidates/List of career achievements by Kobe Bryant/archive1

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it fulfills the criteria.—Chris! _ct 21:42, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

I'll help without nomination. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]_{call me Keith} 00:49, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Truco

Review by Truco (talk · contribs) Lead He and then-teammate Shaquille O'Neal led the Lakers to three consecutive NBA championships from 2000 to 2002. -- We'll see what results from a discussion on the capitalization of "Champion(ship)" After O'Neal's departure following the 2003–04 season, Bryant became the cornerstone of the Lakers franchise. -- Clarify what departure is meant here. From the NBA or his former team Reword—Chris! ct 00:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC) As of March 2009, he had five 60-point games, 24 50-point games, and 96 40-point games. -- add has before had Done. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC) Lists What does the bold in the tables mean? It should mean career high, but I don't know how Chris will indicate it. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC) Added a note about that—Chris! ct 00:32, 20 March 2009 (UTC) Is the "Career" row his total of all seasons? It's the average of all seasons except for the "Game played" and "Game started". -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC) Career highs table: I don't like the use of the symbol Game & date here, I think spelling out the word would be better Fixed—Chris! ct 00:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC) Also in this table, why isn't their a game and date for the freethrows? For your second comment, it is because there were multiple times where Bryant achieved his career high. -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC) Oh okay.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC) References I hate to be a dick about this but ESPN.Com is not the publisher, its the work. ESPN Internet Ventures. is the publisher For the Youtube ref, can you place the work being from the National Basketball League? National Basketball League... -- [[SRE.K.A.L.|L.A.K.ERS]]call me Keith 23:33, 19 March 2009 (UTC) Dammit, it was a real league.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC) Team USA isn't the publisher, USA Basketball, Inc. is. KB24 is the name of the site, while Kobe Bryant. is the publisher All fixed—Chris! ct 00:45, 20 March 2009 (UTC) --Best, ₮RUCӨ 22:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

• Support -- Previous issues resolved to meet WP:WIAFL standards. Good work.--Best, ₮RUCӨ 00:52, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from Giants2008

Comments - I like the idea behind the improvements to this list. The career achievements lists are generally in rough shape and could use a good model. Here are my thoughts: Bryant's official website is sourcing a few of the records. Can't a better source be found than this? If not, maybe those records aren't notable enough to be included here.-Done The Youtube link is the official NBA one, correct?-Yes "Drafted 13th overall by the Charlotte Hornets in the 1996 NBA Draft". Draft is repetitive here. How about "Selected 13th overall by the Charlotte Hornets in the 1996 NBA Draft"? -Done The NBA.com link in the infobox doesn't work.-Fixed "the second highest number of points scored in a single game in NBA history, second only to Wilt Chamberlain's 100-point performance." Change "second only to" to "behind only". That change will prevent "second" from being a redundancy. Also consider a hyphen for "second highest".-Done "winning three All-Star MVP Awards in 2002, 2007, and 2009." Reads like he won three awards each year. I recommend dropping "three". Also, is it worth mentioning in the lead that the 2009 award was shared with Shaq?-Done NBA awards and accomplishments: There are two citations that need to be moved outside parentheses; both are in the regular-season leader area.-Done NBA records: "Kobe Bryant shares two NBA records". Then why are more than two items listed?-Fixed Here and in the next section, I don't think Kobe's first name needs to be repeated.-Done "Became one of the only three players to reach the milestone under the age of 30." This change would get rid of a little wordiness.-Done Los Angeles Lakers franchise records: Several instances of references being out of numerical order, such as [41][37]. Also, the references for the four straight 50-point games don't need to be repeated in the photo, since the statistic is cited in the text.-Done Others: "The Aces defeated Erie Cathedral Prep 48–43 to take home the gold." Could a more encyclopedic phrase than "take home the gold" be used, please?-Done Giants2008 (17-14) 01:28, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

Support - Nice to see a new kind of list at FLC. For an original list, it's quite good and I think it meets the standards. Giants2008 (17-14) 03:14, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Support, all issues resolved. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:23, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Resolved issues, Dabomb87 (talk)

Comments from Dabomb87 (talk · contribs) Overall, really nice job. Just a few things that need addressing. "Kobe Bryant is an American shooting guard who plays " Delink "American". "Bryant became the cornerstone of the Lakers franchise. " Personally, I don't dispute this, but is there a source for this statement? "career high"-->career-high of points scored in a single game in NBA history" "winning All-Star MVP Awards in 2002, 2007, and 2009 with O'Neal." What does "with O'Neal" mean here? "he has had five 60-point games, 24 50-point games, and 96 40-point games."-->he has had five 60-point games, twenty-four 50-point games, and ninety-six 40-point games. The color needs accompanying symbols. Per MOS:BOLD, bold should not be used as a symbol; use italics instead. "March 16–March 23, 2007"-->March 16–23, 2007 "February 6–February 23, 2003"-->February 6–23, 2003 "January 11–January 22, 2006"-->January 11–22, 2006 "and the PIAA" Spell out "PIAA" In the key, I think you should explain that "at" signifies that Bryant's team played against that team on the road and "versus" signifies that his team played against that team at home. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC) Done all—Chris! ct 23:29, 26 March 2009 (UTC) Remove the spacing between the daggers/asterisks and the values; otherwise, the line will break on some browsers. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:40, 26 March 2009 (UTC) Also, the colors should not extend across the whole row, only the season column. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:41, 26 March 2009 (UTC) Done all—Chris! ct 00:01, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Sources look good. Dabomb87 (talk) 22:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

• Comment In the "career statistics" table, would it be possible to note the years in which he led the league in a certain statistic? For example, if he led the league in free throw% in 06/07, could that cell be bolded or something? -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 17:08, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

I think it is possible. I will add a symbol and color.—Chris! _ct 03:10, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

I can only do it for point per game since it is the only one that appears in the career statistics table.—Chris! _ct 03:20, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

*Comments - very good. A few things... Why have we got a 1.1 when we don't have a 1.2? Similarly with 3.1? It always strikes me as odd to have one subheading like that... - Fixed Last para has "times" five times (!)... Can we spice it up a bit with some more engaging prose? Perhaps "occasions" could be used? - Fixed Back to the headings thing, you could make Regular season and Playoffs the same level as Career-highs couldn't you? - Fixed I think the career row should be non-sortable (but it is my opinion). I can't remember the code required to keep it at the bottom, but if we think it's worth it, I'll go on the hunt. - Seem to be a good idea, but I don't know the code either Check out this - if you still can't work it out, give me a shout and I'll see if I can help. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Done—Chris! ct 22:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Can I just confirm that he didn't ever play for the Charlotte Hornets? It may be worth clarifying that in the lead in case people go looking for his career achievements with them... - Based on his career stats, he never played for the Hornets. Should I use note or just add it to the lead? Shouldn't Game started and Game played be Games ... in each case? - Fixed Since the career highs table isn't sortable, you could include both cases of his free-throws made and both cases of free-throws attempt(ed??). - What do you mean? You could name the teams against whom he made both record of each type. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Oh, I don't think that is possible b/c the source I used didn't specified.—Chris! ct 22:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Section headings once more - you could make 3.1 currently held and 3.2 previously held... - Fixed There's an odd mixture of (As of March 2009) and (present) used to denote, well, today in the records list... I would attempt to be consistent. - The reason I use as of for several records is b/c they change all the time. I know they change all the time but "present" and "As of March 2009" are very different. I would be consistent. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC) Done—Chris! ct 22:24, 31 March 2009 (UTC) What does ABCD mean? - I think this is a name, not an acronym Give me a shout... The Rambling Man (talk) 16:48, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

• Support good work. The Rambling Man (talk) 15:54, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

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