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The list was promoted by SchroCat 10:14, 7 August 2015 [1].

List of York City F.C. players (fewer than 25 appearances) edit

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Nominator(s): Mattythewhite (talk) 21:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel it meets the criteria. It is the last of a three-part series including List of York City F.C. players (featured since October 2007) and List of York City F.C. players (25–99 appearances) (featured since March 2015). I am working on reducing the number of red links, although I feel criterion 5a is met as it is. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 21:51, 10 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 11:17, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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  • "the club failed to be elected to the Football League for the coming season." could be worth linking to that coming season?
  • "At international level, Iwelumo also went..." I think also is redundant
  • "so have the opportunity to add to their totals" -> can add to their totals
  • This is just a suggestion, but you could try and get the position column to sort by position rather than alphabetically?
    • I'm not sure about this. The list includes the old playing positions (full-back, half-back etc) as well as the current ones, and ordering them in a logical manner might be awkward. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm a bit confused why a lot of the players that have been selected for their international team, have a zero in the caps column. For instance, i checked Iwelumo's article and it says he has received 4 caps for Scotland
    • The key explains that "For players having played at full international level, the caps column counts the number of such appearances during his career with the club" (my bold). Mattythewhite (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Likewise, the under-21s just have a dash in the caps column, while their article states a figure
    • I don't feel caps below senior level are pertinent enough for inclusion, and it's difficult to find the number of caps gained for many below-senior national teams, e.g. the England youth team c. 1960s. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:11, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

NapHit (talk) 17:42, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support Fantastic work, well done. NapHit (talk) 11:17, 26 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – The one thing that jumped out at me was the Players with 25 or more appearances section, which is basically just a hatnote to other articles. Since links to the other pages are included in the templates at the bottom of the page, I'm not sure we need a blank section for them. If you feel that they are important enough to highlight, perhaps they should be at the top of the page. Otherwise, the list looked strong to me. Giants2008 (Talk) 19:22, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • I placed the links to the other lists there as I thought readers would find them useful upon finishing reading the list. However, I wouldn't oppose them being moved to the top of the page if you feel it is more practical. Mattythewhite (talk) 19:39, 22 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - no issues jump out at me -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:14, 23 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Struway2 (talk) 17:56, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
*Comment. The format for these lists is well established now, the second part of the York City trilogy passed FLC quite recently, and this list follows that one pretty closely, so I expect to support. There are a couple of things...
    • The John Lowey image struck me as clearly a scan from somewhere, so I checked its description at Commons, was unconvinced, and have nominated it for deletion as likely copyright violation. The people at Commons might think it's OK, and they might take ages thinking anything at all, but I'd be tempted to remove it pending a decision.
    • Would "all players who have played between 1 and 24 first-team matches" be a more precise wording than "played in fewer than 25"? or does saying "played in" clearly exclude unused substitutes? Naming the article List of York City F.C. players (1–24 appearances) would clarify, but that's outside the scope of this FLC.
      • Reworded as suggested, and article retitled as suggested. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
    • This one stems from the standard wording "The club's first team have competed in numerous nationally organised competitions" which was removed at the 25–99 apps FLC to cater for the Midland League years. For clubs without time spent in a regional league, or where the players list doesn't cover such time, that wording avoids having to include things like appearances in county senior cups, which certainly in the early years of my club were very much first-team competitions but for which the line-ups aren't recorded. Did YCFC play first-team matches in any regional cups? and if so, should they be specifically mentioned and excluded, as the Gillingham lists do with supplementary matches? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:01, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
      • The club has fielded a team in the North Riding Senior Cup since its inaugural season, but appearances in this competition are not regarded as first-team/competitive, and records have not been maintained for appearances in it. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:43, 28 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. As stated above under the yellow stripe, I expected to support, and nominator responded to my comments in a very timely manner, which is more than can be said for my belated return to this FLC. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:56, 5 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - feels this satisfies the criteria based on prose and structure alone. Couldn't find any issues with references. Lemonade51 (talk) 16:59, 30 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]


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