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List of Sunrisers Hyderabad cricketers edit

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Nominator(s): Sagavaj (talk) 15:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because this contains entire statistics of players who played for Sunrisers Hyderabad and I have created this list from scratch and would like it to become a featured list. Sagavaj (talk) 15:12, 12 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • Remove the Telugu title of the team, per WP:INDICSCRIPT.
  • I'd suggest you to place the references at the end of the sentences.
  • Alt text missing of Sangakkara's image.
  • Last three references should be properly formatted.
  • Replace Twitter with a better source.
  • Be consistent with the way you write the date and accessdates.

Yashthepunisher (talk) 10:08, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Yashthepunisher: Howdy. I have addressed all the issues presented above. Cheers. Sagavaj (talk) 13:19, 13 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment – I was asked for a review on my talk page, but I'm finding a bunch of grammar and prose issues in the lead (too many to list individually). My opinion is that the article needs a copy-edit before I'd be comfortable saying that it meets FL standards. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:08, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since I was asked on my talk page for a few examples, I'll provide several here. Please don't think that these are all of the problems, but rather as examples indicating the need for copy-editing:
  • "The Sunrisers Hyderabad is a franchise cricket team...". First, the first word doesn't work grammatically and should be removed. Second, bold links are discouraged by the Manual of Style, so I suggest taking out the bolding.
  • "The team made their maiden appearance in the IPL playoffs in its first season in 2013 and had continuously reached since 2016 season." The last bit isn't well-written. Is it supposed to be "and has continuously reached the playoffs since the 2016 season."?
  • "and experienced the biggest gain in percentage in past year among the IPL franchises." This needs another "the" before "past year".
  • "Shikhar Dhawan has the most number of appearances for the SRH...". "number of" is redundant phrasing; "most appearances" is shorter and tighter writing, so I say go with that version. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:19, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comments
    • "The SunRisers Hyderabad (often abbreviated as SRH) are a franchise [...] which plays" - team referred to as both singular and plural in the same sentence, which is it?
      • Rephrased
    • "The team made their [...]maiden IPL playoffs appearance in their first season in 2013 and has continuously" - same again
      • Corrected "has" to "have"
    • "last-time during the 2018 season" => "most recently during the 2018 season"
      • Changed to "most recently"
    • "according to the Duff & Phelps" => "according to Duff & Phelps"
      • Removed "the"
    • "The team has played its home matches in the 55,000-capacity Rajiv Gandhi International Cricket Stadium in Hyderabad, since its inception." - no reason for the comma before "since"
      • Removed ","
    • "to achieve an individual run total in excess of 2000 runs" - in the previous sentence there is a comma in a four-digit number but not here - be consistent
      • Changed to 2,000
    • "Warner achieved the record highest number of runs in a single match" - no need to say both "record" and "highest" as the record is obviously the highest figure by definition
      • Removed "record"
    • "players who bowled over 20 overs for the team" => "players who bowled more than 20 overs for the team"
      • Rephrased
    • "Shikhar Dhawan has played the most matches. He is also second leading run-getter for SRH." => "Shikhar Dhawan has played the most matches. He is also the leading run-getter for SRH."
      • Corrected. Changed from second leading run-getter to leading run-getter
    • "Bhuvneshwar Kumar is leading wicket-taker for SRH." => "Bhuvneshwar Kumar is the leading wicket-taker for SRH."
      • Added "the"
    • "Amit Mishra took first hat-trick for SRH." => "Amit Mishra took the first hat-trick for SRH."
      • Removed photo for poor quality purposes
    • The photo captions simply refer to the team as "SRH", whereas the text uses "the SRH" - be consistent
      • Added "the"
    • The table "is initially listed alphabetically by their last name" - this clearly isn't true, because Anand Rajan and Ankit Sharma listed under A. Listing them under A may be correct (I am not very familiar with Indian naming customs) but you shouldn't claim that the list is sorted by players' last name if some are sorted based on their first name............
      • Rearranged the table
    • "But, they had to replace Sangakkara with Cameron White as captain in the middle of ongoing IPL season owing to the former's poor form" - can't start a sentence with "but" - I suggest you join this onto the previous sentence.
      • Rephrased first sentence and joined second with the first
    • Also "in the middle of ongoing IPL season owing to the former's poor form" isn't grammatically correct and should probably just be "during the season owing to the former's poor form"
      • Rephrased
    • "They changed their captain for the fifth time in three seasons appointing David Warner for 2015 season" => "....for the 2015 season"
      • Added "the"
    • Same thing later in the sentence when referring to 2016
      • Added "the"
    • And in the following sentence when referring to 2018 :-)
      • Added "the"
    • "These statistics are correct as of 2018 Indian Premier League." => "These statistics are correct as of the 2018 Indian Premier League."
      • Rephrased
    • "The BBI was not provided for players who didn't take wickets for SRH." => "....who did not take wickets". Also, is it SRH or "the" SRH?
      • Added "the"
  • Quite a lot here, hope it helps -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:59, 11 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from TompaDompa (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
*It should either be "Sunrisers" or "SunRisers" consistently throughout, including the title.
  • "The team is currently owned by Kalanithi Maran of the Sun TV channel Network who won the bid for ₹850.5 million per year on a five-year deal in 2012" – rephrase without "currently" per MOS:CURRENTLY.
  • Instead of "maiden", just say "first". This comes up a few times.
  • The second paragraph of the WP:LEAD could be removed since there's an infobox containing the key information. It looks a bit weird right now since the paragraph is so short (and the information in it is not all that important to the subject matter).
    • Moved to the first paragraph. Let me know if that's fine or you want me to remove it completely. Sagavaj (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Either remove it entirely or at least fix the "currently" phrasing (to an "as of" or "since" phrasing). TompaDompa (talk) 15:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since digit separators are used in "55,000", it would look a lot better if the same were true of four-digit numbers as well.
  • All cricket terminology in the WP:LEAD should be linked at first occurrence – assume that the reader isn't familiar with the terminology.
  • "has the highest strike rate at 193.33 among the players who played over five innings for the SRH" – I would move "at 193.33" to the end of the sentence.
  • If "scalps" is an official cricket term, it should be linked. If not, it should be replaced.
  • "has the best bowling average at 20.56 among the players who bowled more than 20 overs" – same as above. The qualifier should not come at the end.
  • "the best economy rate at 6.68 among the players who bowled over 20 overs for the team" – same as above.
  • Use "strike rate" or "strike-rate" consistently.
  • "The first list includes all players who have played in at least one match for the SRH and is initially listed alphabetically by their last name."– Remove this from the WP:LEAD and add some text above the first table summarizing its contents instead (I'd suggest writing something about the number of players, which should make it clear that the list is exhaustive). There's no need to explain that the table is sorted alphabetically by default (and the footnote further explaining this can also be removed).
  • "The second list comprises all those players who have captained the team in at least one match, arranged in the order of the first match as captain." – Remove this from the WP:LEAD. There is already text above the second table summarizing its contents.
  • "Many players have also represented other teams of the IPL, but only the records of their games for the SRH are given." – this is self-explanatory and should be removed.
  • "To sort these tables by any statistic, click on the  icon in the column title." – this is unnecessary and should be removed.
  • "These statistics are correct as of 2018 Indian Premier League." – Rephrase as "Statistics updated as of the 2018 Indian Premier League." and place the text in italics above each of the tables instead.
  • The key should not have its own section. Place the parts that apply to the first table in the same section as the first table (above the table), and the parts that apply to the second table in the same section as the second table instead. The reader shouldn't have to scroll up from the second table all the way up to right below the WP:LEAD to check something in the key.
  • Much of the information in the key is unnecessary in that format. All the abbreviations in the table should be explained with the {{abbr}} template instead (while retaining the links). Only the symbols need to be explained in the key.
  • I would suggest replacing the asterisks (*) with {{hash-tag}} so that WP:ALT text can be added.
    • It was pointed out to me that this notation is customary. TompaDompa (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • I didn't get on what you are trying to say. Sagavaj (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm not a big fan of the gallery. I'd suggest moving the images to the right of the table.
    • To clarify: I meant removing the gallery markup so that each photo shows up below the previous one instead of side by side. TompaDompa (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Changed it as per the request. Sagavaj (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
        • Turns out the table is too wide to have the images beside it. I restored the gallery but moved it below the table (the point being that the table is the primary content, and the images are secondary). TompaDompa (talk) 15:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Try to find a better photograph of Amit Mishra as the current one does not have great image quality.
  • "This doesn't includes illegal deliveries like no-balls and wides." should be "This does not include illegal deliveries like no-balls and wides."
  • "The BBI was not provided for players who did not take wickets for the SRH." – explain BBI and change "was not" to "is not" or "has not been".
  • I don't see what the flags add to the reader's understanding of the topic and suggest that they be removed. I wouldn't be opposed to removing the entire "Nationality" column (it seems beside the point of a list concerning a subnational team), but the flags should definitely be removed as they add nothing but visual clutter to the table.
  • "Kumar Sangakkara and Cameron White shared the captaincy for the 2013 IPL Season, with Sangakkara the first nine matches and White the remaining eight." – This footnote is unnecessary as it's already explained in the text above the table.
  • The "No." column for the captains should be removed.
  • The flags for the captains should either be replaced with text (i.e. "Sri Lanka", "Australia", and so on) or even better the column removed altogether.
  • Instead of having the source in the bottom row of the captains table, I'd suggest adding a table heading that says "SRH captains" and placing the source there.
    • Remove the bottom row and move the citation to the heading (i.e. directly after "SRH captains"). TompaDompa (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
      • Moved source to the top of the table. Sagavaj (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
  • Either have two heading that say "Notes" and "References" without the subheading that says "Footnotes" or use both "Footnotes" and "References" as subheadings under the heading "Notes".

TompaDompa (talk) 12:12, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Support TompaDompa (talk) 16:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the review. Sagavaj (talk) 20:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@TompaDompa:, @ChrisTheDude:, @Giants2008: : I corrected most of the mistakes pointed by you guys. Let me know if I missed anything. Thanks a lot. Sagavaj (talk) 21:20, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have updated my comments and used strikethrough markup for the resolved ones. TompaDompa (talk) 22:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TompaDompa: Resolved the rest. Sagavaj (talk) 00:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed (changed 1 date format); promoting. --PresN 15:54, 24 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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