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The list was promoted by Giants2008 via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 25 December 2023 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Seattle Seahawks seasons edit

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Nominator(s): SounderBruce 06:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The second in what I hope to be a series of FLs about Seattle sports seasons (after the Sounders). I'm not totally attuned to football jargon, so this was a more challenging weekend project, and one that was fun to work on. The list is similar in format and style to both the Sounders list as well as recent NFL season FLs. SounderBruce 06:50, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Drive-by comment
  • I'll do a full review later, but one thing that immediately jumps out is that in the first sentence "The Seattle Seahawks are a professional American football team based in Seattle, Washington, that plays in the National Football League (NFL)" the subject changes from plural to singular mid-sentence -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:39, 23 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Like many NFL team names, Seahawks is a collective noun that follows weird rules in American English. I've tried to fix up the discrepancies where I can, but years of writing soccer articles are hard to shake off.
More comments
  • "The Seahawks were originally a member" - more plural/singular disagreement
    • The use of "a member" is as a singular collective and follows what most NFL writing would use.
  • "has since had more success than their division rivals" - and here
    • Fixed.
  • "as was early attempts" => "as were early attempts"
    • Fixed.
  • "The team lost in the Wild Card round to the Miami Dolphins in their final AFC playoffs game, as Seattle would not clinch" => "The team lost in the Wild Card round to the Miami Dolphins in their final AFC playoffs game, after which Seattle would not clinch"
    • Fixed.
  • "OT" in the table needs explaining
    • Added a tooltip.
  • That's what I got :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:29, 25 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hey man im josh
  • Image review:
    • Image(s) are relevant – Pass
    • Image(s) have alt text – Pass
    • Image(s) are appropriately licensed – Pass
  • Source review:
    • Reliable enough for the information being cited – Pass
    • Consistent date formatting – Pass
    • Consistent and proper reference formatting – Mostly pass
    • Appropriate wikilinks where applicable – Pass
    • Spot checks on 11 sources match what they are being cited for – Pass

Issues:

  • Ref 10: Missing author when one is available
  • Refs 24 & 45: Add "|url-access=subscription"
  • Ref 46: Is there any reason you use NFL.com as the work and National Football League as the publisher? It's my understanding you would only need 1 of these.

You do very good work and that continued on this article @SounderBruce:. Ping me when you resolve the above issues and I'll note my support. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the refs that EN-Jungwon mentioned below, refs 4, 16, 17, 25, and 26 are also now prompting me for a subscription (sources from The Seattle Times). For whatever reason, ref 14 is not. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:43, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Another note, the awards and head coach columns are not properly sortable based on some cells are split between two coaches or award recipients, these should probably be designated as unsortable instead. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:45, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh: Replaced citation 10, added subscription/limited tags to all appropriate sources, removed NFL.com, and fixed the columns. SounderBruce 00:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:46, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
EN-Jungwon
  • The colors in the table need to be identified by a symbol in addition to a color for accessibility.
  • Ref 7 and 21 seems to be dead.
  • Ref 11, 13, 24, 27, 29, 30 and 45 seem to require a subscription.
  • Ref 19, 38, 43, 47 and 49 doesn't have a url link. Is this intentional?

The second and third point might be due to where I live or my browser so double check that before changing it. That's all. -- EN-Jungwon 16:37, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for catching those additional subscription links that I missed in my above review, I've added a few more refs based on that. I wasn't being prompted when checking the links my first go through but I'll keep The Seattle Times in mind for the future. 11 and 13 not currently prompting me about a subscription. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:41, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@EN-Jungwon: I have added the symbols to the table, fixed the dead links, and marked citations that require a subscription (either for all articles or after X free articles). The citations without URLs were primarily accessed from my library's NewsBank, which does not allow for straightforward permanent links; the ones they do generate tend to expire after a week. As such, I don't think it would be worthwhile to link them, especially since WP:SOURCEACCESS permits the use of offline sources. SounderBruce 00:23, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'll AGF on the offline sources. One more thing. I'd suggest moving the see also template at the beginning of the list to a new section. -- EN-Jungwon 15:39, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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