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List of National Football League annual rushing touchdowns leaders edit

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Nominator(s): Hey man im josh (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This is #7 in the series of NFL annual statistical leaders. The formatting is based on past successful featured lists from the series and, if successful, would mark the completion of rushing related stats. As always, I will do my best to respond and make changes as quickly as possible. Hey man im josh (talk) 17:57, 14 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments
  • This is my first time reviewing an FLC, so please bear with me :)
  • Is there a reason there is no table listing the players with the most seasons leading the league, similar to the one at List of National Football League annual rushing yards leaders#Most rushing titles or List of National Football League annual passing touchdowns leaders#Most seasons leading the league? If not, add it
  • In the first image caption, you say "LaDainian Tomlinson holds the single-season rushing touchdowns record, rushing for 28 touchdowns in 2006." The two instances of rushing so close together seems a little clunky, maybe change that second one to "running for 28 touchdowns".
  • These next two are more nitpicks and probably optional. The lede seems a little sparse, perhaps add something about the few players who achieved over 20 rushing touchdowns in one season?
  • Perhaps add a key to the AFL annual rushing touchdowns leaders section. While I would prefer it, I do get the rational behind not including one. ULPS (talk) 02:28, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the feedback @ULPS.
    • Is there a reason there is no table listing the players with the most seasons leading the league... – Not really except that we haven't really standardized whether it should be included or not. You pointed to the two of the five NFL annual leader FLs that have such a table, while the other three FL do not. Never the less, after giving it some thought, I do think the table is useful so I've gone ahead and added it.
    • ...maybe change that second one to "running for 28 touchdowns". – Done
    • These next two are more nitpicks and probably optional. The lede seems a little sparse, perhaps add something about the few players who achieved over 20 rushing touchdowns in one season? – Added a mention that there has been eleven instances where a player has rushed for over 20 touchdowns in a season and that only two players have done so twice.
    • Perhaps add a key to the AFL annual rushing touchdowns leaders section. – I went back and forth on this one prior to the nomination. NFL lists are inconsistent when it comes to including the key in the AFL section, with the assumption apparently being that people will reference the key above the NFL table. After giving it some thought, we can't really go wrong by having the key relisted in the AFL section as well. I've included a key with the active player and HoF portion of the key removed, as those are not relevant to the AFL table (no active or HoF players in the table).
    I hope I've addressed your concerns. Please let me know if you think anything else can be improved. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:33, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - ULPS (talk) 15:15, 15 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Query
  • The "most seasons leading the league" table doesn't include Cookie Gilchrist or Abner Haynes, so apparently it only includes the NFL players......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @ChrisTheDude: That was a mistake on my part. When creating that "most seasons leading the league" I was looking at the NFL table and forgot to include the AFL table. I've now included both of those players in the table. Thank you for catching this, I feel silly having missed it. Hey man im josh (talk) 12:23, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 12:36, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you! One of these days I'll stump you :) Hey man im josh (talk) 12:57, 16 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
EN-Jungwon
  • Short description should be at the top. See MOS:ORDER
  • Priest Holmes is linked twice in the lead.
  • Is there a better |website= name for ref 8, 9 and 10

-- EN-Jungwon 10:50, 20 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@EN-Jungwon:
  • Short description has been moved to the top
  • Priest Holmes is no longer linked twice
  • I did not find a better website name for ref 8, but I did change the website name for refs 9, 10, and 13 here. Is this satisfactory?
Hey man im josh (talk) 13:13, 21 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- EN-Jungwon 16:49, 22 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]
MyCatIsAChonk

Happy to do a source review! No spotcheck needed, looking at formatting/reliability. Will do soon- ping me if I forget by tomorrow! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 19:26, 5 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ref 3's archived link isn't displaying anything for me, likely because Flash was deprecated
  • Ref 7 is displaying an error page for me
  • Ref 10: remove "| Official Site of the Dallas Cowboys" from title
  • Are the following reliable:
    • Sports Betting Dime
    • profootballnetwork.com (also, shouldn't this be formatted not as a url; "Pro Football Network" is what's in the logo at the top)
    • Pro Football History

Hey man im josh, all done, lovely work! Impressed you discovered my WikiCup strategy ;) MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:33, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@MyCatIsAChonk, thank you so much for the feedback!
  • Ref 3's archive link works fine for me. Ref 2 & 3 both do not have "archived" hyperlinked because they have the archive link as the main link (dead link parameter). They instead have "the original" hyperlinked, which leads to the dead pages in question. Is this by any chance what you're referring to?
  • Ref 7 is a dead link and I made a mistake by not marking the reference as such. I've now marked the reference as a dead url.
  • Ref 10 -- done.
  • Reliability of references:
    • Sports Betting Dime – I do believe, given the context, we should be able to trust the definition of a football statistic from a betting website. Never the less, I've added an additional reference from a website called "Sports Charts" which I've seen used a fair bit in articles related to football definitions. It backs up the definition and I think, at least together, the references should be adequete.
    • Pro Football Network – Formatting fixed. It's contextually reliable and the information on the page is verifiable. This is used for ref 9 and the sentence before its usage uses ref 1. Ref 1 shows some of the same information but in a different format. I've added ref 1 to the the same sentence that I used this site for.
    • Pro Football History – The site can be crufty, that's for sure, but I've always found the "facts" they state to be verifiable. In this case, the reference is used to verify the fact that John Riggins led the league in 1983 with the first 20+ rushing touchdowns season, which can be seen in the table itself. Additionally, I thought it might be relevant to share the stat leaders the same year, just in case someone else had beat him to 20 TDs that year, which no one did (Eric Dickerson was second with 18 TDs). While I could have left that statement without a reference, I did think it was better to include that reference as opposed to just letting people look at the table.
I hope I've addressed all your concerns. If not, I'm more than happy to make further changes. Hey man im josh (talk) 15:12, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Hey man im josh, the Wayback Machine page linked at ref 3 is still broken. I mean this in that I see the page's header and border, and tehn along the border, the tab titled "The Run" is selected. But, no content is displaying below it. Everything else looks good, great job! MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 21:02, 6 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@MyCatIsAChonk: I see now. I believe I've resolved the issue by pointing to a slightly different target which contained the relevant information. Hey man im josh (talk) 00:20, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support MyCatIsAChonk (talk) (not me) (also not me) (still no) 00:27, 7 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Image review – All of the photos have appropriate free licenses. The lead image lacks alt text, unlike the rest, so it would be nice to see that taken care of. Giants2008 (Talk) 21:53, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    @Giants2008: Fixed, thank you for catching that. Hey man im josh (talk) 22:20, 14 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, promoting. --PresN 15:18, 18 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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