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The list was archived by The Rambling Man via FACBot (talk) 00:25, 29 April 2022 (UTC) [1].[reply]

List of Angelic Layer episodes edit

List of Angelic Layer episodes (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

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Nominator(s): ISD (talk) 07:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Having recently promoted the List of Yuri on Ice episodes to FL, I thought I would use what I have learned during the previous nomination to promote another list of anime episodes to FL as well. I have tried my best to follow the same guidelines with this list, having added a considerable amount of information to it recently. I just hope that this time the process, whether the list gets promoted or not, takes less than five months. ISD (talk) 07:35, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Some/all of the episode descriptions are identical to those on this other Wiki. Were they copied from there to here? From here to there? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 09:57, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • @ChrisTheDude: I've had a look at their history pages, I think the Wikipedia list came first (here to there), as I can see episode descriptions here before the creation of such articles in the Angelic Layer Wiki which only dates back to September 2015. ISD (talk) 10:13, 25 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
      • I'd suggest rewriting the summaries from a more neutral point of view.Tintor2 (talk) 02:02, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
        • OK. Should I withdraw the nomination for now while I do this, or leave it here? ISD (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
          • I would definitely suggest that at least some of the summaries need rewriting. Sentences like "Who will claim victory in this epic battle of the ages?" sound like something that would be included in the blurb on the back of a DVD, but for an encyclopedia they need to be more of a straightforward statement of facts i.e. this happens, then this happens, then this happens. Hope that makes sense -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:33, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK. This may take me a while, but I'll see what I can do. ISD (talk) 19:41, 26 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB) edit

  • Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
  • Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! width="8%" | # !! English Title becomes !scope=col width="8%" | # <line break> !scope=col | English Title.
  • Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. --PresN 03:38, 28 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from TRM edit

  • Could create a plausible redirect at Battle Doll: Angelic Layer to this list.
  • "fight using dolls. Misaki enters professional" merge: "fight using dolls and enters professional"
  • "The cover of the Angelic Layer collector's edition from Anime Limited." that's a fragment, no full stop.
  • "opening theme is " is this the theme song? Why is this more significant than a plot synopsis??
  • The source says "ending theme" and has "Ame Agari" rather than "After the rain" (which I guess could be the translation, but for consistency, shouldn't that be "After The Rain"?)
  • I would link Blu-ray.
  • "In 2001, Angelic Layer won the "Television Award" in the 6th Animation Kobe awards.[12]" I would avoid single-sentence paras.
  • Don't use "#" to represent "Number" or "No.", it's an abuse of MOS:HASH.
  • "Original Air Date" -> Original air date.
  • English Title -> English title.
  • " Hikaru..."" please visit MOS:ELLIPSIS here for how to use non-breaking spaces appropriately.
  • "can't"/"won't" etc, avoid contractions.

That's enough for a first pass right now. The Rambling Man (Keep wearing the mask...) 21:04, 18 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Review by Gerald Waldo Luis edit

Hey! I have a few comments that can hopefully polish it more. After all are resolved I'll support this FLC GeraldWL 08:13, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • The image caption: "The cover of the Angelic Layer collector's edition from Anime Limited." The can be removed as it is not typically seen in sentence fragments like this. I think it should also mention "DVD", since collector's edition can be in any medium.
  • For "Vol.", I think it must be put inside an abbr template.
  • Why is there no references in the "Japanese-language releases", but there are several for "English-language releases"?
  • The "References" can be switched with Template:Refh.
  • In the ADV Films citations, it always starts with "Angelic Layer »" The » is a script-language variant for italics/apostrophe, so I think you must replace that with italics, so it'll be "Angelic Layer"
  • "by Clamp" --> "by the group Clamp"
  • "Character design was by" --> "The characters were designed by" to avoid abstract banality in the prose
  • "The series first premiered on TV Tokyo on April 1, 2001, and finished on September 23, 2001" --> "The series' first episode premiered on TV Tokyo on April 1, 2001, and the finale episode aired on September 23, 2001"
  • "with a total of 26 episdes"-- typo
  • You capitalize HAL here, but the band's article uses Hal.
  • "by HAL" --> "by the band HAL"
  • "the second ending theme is "After the rain" by Moeko Matsushita." You sure it shouldn't be "After the Rain"?
  • Overall, I think the sentence about the theme songs can be merged with the first paragraph (after character design), and the TV Tokyo sentence can be merged with the following paragraph as first the sentence.
  • Link DVD and Blu-ray, and limited edition
  • "The series was then released"-- remove "then" here to avoid repetition
  • "released a Blu-ray collection" --> "released a Blu-ray collector's edition"
  • The episodes summary can be entirely reworked. It's mostly a synopsis teaser than an actual start-to-finish summary. The wording style is also very fan-like instead of encyclopedic.


@ISD: Are you still pursuing this nomination? --PresN 20:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@PresN: No. Feel free to remove this nomination. ISD (talk) 07:12, 21 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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