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Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame edit

Featured list candidates/Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame/archive1

Nominator(s): Erick (talk) 18:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Five years ago, I nominated List of Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame inductees for FLC which failed because the prose was very short. I merged that article with Latin Songwriters Hall of Fame, expanded the prose, and am ready to tackle on any comments for this list Erick (talk) 18:49, 6 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

"The hall of fame was conceived by Child after realizing he was" => "The hall of fame was conceived by Child after he realized that he was"
"to be inducted into Songwriters Hall of Fame" => "to be inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame"
"16 years prior its conception" => "16 years prior to its conception"
"selected by its committee of music professions" => "selected by its committee of music professionals"
There's a random space between the two refs at the end of the first paragraph
"After a two year absence" => "After a two-year absence"
Something seems to be wrong with the 2014, 2015 and 2016 entries in the posthumous inductees table, as if I sort on any other column and then re-sort on year, an additional blank row appears for each year
"The La Musa Honorees was only presented" - "honorees" is plural so not appropriate to use a singular verb
In the "previously nominated" table, I would be tempted to put the number of nominations column before the year and also maybe rename it to "No. of noms." as "NN" is a bit obscure
External link needs a bullet point before it
That's what I got! -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:25, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@ChrisTheDude Thanks for the review! I think I got everything! Let me know if the table still acts weird. Erick (talk) 15:40, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There's still issues with the table. It's something to do with the rowspans but I can't quite figure it out...... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:00, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I saw some issues as I was passing by but they were for 2017 and 2018 for me. I made some edits – did they fix the issue on your end? RunningTiger123 (talk) 03:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Yes! Thanks -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:17, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you runningtiger123! @ChrisTheDude is the list good to go? Erick (talk) 14:46, 9 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:39, 11 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Accessibility review (MOS:DTAB) edit

Tables need captions, which allow screen reader software to jump straight to named tables without having to read out all of the text before it each time. Visual captions can be added by putting |+ caption_text as the first line of the table code; if that caption would duplicate a nearby section header, you can make it screen-reader-only by putting |+ {{sronly|caption_text}} instead.
Tables need column scopes for all column header cells, which in combination with row scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Column scopes can be added by adding !scope=col to each header cell, e.g. ! style="background:#efefef;" | Year becomes !scope=col style="background:#efefef;" | Year (or just !scope=col | Year). You have these for the first 2 tables, but not in Honorees.
Tables need row scopes on the "primary" column for each row, which in combination with column scopes lets screen reader software accurately determine and read out the headers for each cell of a data table. Row scopes can be added by adding !scope=row to each primary cell, e.g. |2013 becomes !scope=row |2013. You have these for the first 2 tables, but not in Honorees.
Please see MOS:DTAB for example table code if this isn't clear. I don't return to these reviews until the nomination is ready to close, so ping me if you have any questions. --Pres N 17:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN Did I do everything right? Erick (talk) 18:17, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, although it looks like for most of them you made the name the "primary" column, but for Hero's Award and Conqueror Award you did the year, and they should probably be consistent. Oh, and you missed the Previously nominated artists table for rowscopes. --Pres N 20:48, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@PresN Done. Thanks so much for the table feedback! Erick (talk) 17:34, 13 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support ~~Comments~~ from K. Peake

The usage of "and" in lists of three or more should always be preceded by a comma
The last paragraph of the lead should be merged with the one above since it is only one sentence and change "its inception" to "the inception"
Icon Award (Premio Icono) should be changed to recognition per the wording of the source itself

Other than these points, everything looks really good and I commend all the work that went into this! --K. Peake 17:09, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks man! I think I got everything you addressed. As always, let me know if I missed anything! Erick (talk) 17:34, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you there, although one other thing I picked up on now was in the lead that you used "United States" multiple times when it should only be on the first mention when dealing with the lead, then the US please. K. Peake 17:38, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that's right and you're constantly reminding me of that yet I keep on forgetting lol. Thank you so much Kyle, it means a lot to me! Especially on my birthday! Erick (talk) 17:52, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Magiciandude I now support this wholeheartedly and generally had no idea before, happy birthday man!! --K. Peake 21:54, 6 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Source review from Z1720 edit

Version reviewed

Ref 10: This appears to be a blog. What makes this a high-quality source?
Ref 39: Why is Noticias Newswire a high quality source?

Some references are wikilinked to the publisher, and some are not. This should be standardised (if wikilinking, only wikilink the first instance in the references)

Source check: passed. Sources checked: 2, 32, 38, 41, 42. No concerns about paraphrasing from earwig.

Please ping when the above are addressed. Z1720 (talk) 19:16, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Z1720 Thanks for the ref review. I couldn't find a replacement for ref 10 so it and the sentence has been removed. I replaced ref 39 with a better source. I also wikilinked the missing publishers where applicable. Erick (talk) 20:15, 11 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support. My concerns have been addressed. Z1720 (talk) 03:13, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Vaughan J. edit

Will get onto it now per your request! Not gonna review the prose, since that's been done by Chris, but I will get to the table part! — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 06:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Inductees

Heading: Ref. → {{Abbr|Ref.|References}} – Ditto for "Posthumous inductees" section.
"Manuel Alejandro‡" – shouldn't you use space for the dagger? (e.g. "Manuel Alejandro ‡")

Posthumous inductees

See first point on "Inductees" then we're good.

Honorees

Heading: Shouldn't there be a column just for the refs?
Mess-up on Hero's Award – that being the 2017 recipient not using ! scope=row|.

Previously nominated artists

Heading:

<abbr title="Total number of nominations">No. of noms.</abbr> → {{Abbr|No.|Total number}} of {{Abbr|noms.|nominations}}
Reference → {{Abbr|Ref.|References}}

"2014, 2015, 2016 2017, 2019" – no comma between 2016 and 2017.

That's it! Ping me if you're done. — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 06:26, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Vaughan J. I think I got them all! Thanks so much for the review! Erick (talk) 14:46, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Support – I did some brief copyediting to fix some more issues so that you don't have to work on it again! — VAUGHAN J. (TALK) 21:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Promoted. --Pres N 03:21, 21 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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