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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Giants2008 01:21, 21 September 2015 [1].

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Nominator(s): SchroCat (talk) 21:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

With appearances in 30 films, plus an extensive stage and television repertoire, Ian Carmichael was a consummate character actor who appeared in some of the most well-known films of the twentieth century, including Private's Progress (1956), and I'm All Right Jack (1959). His portrayals on BBC television of with The World of Wooster—in which he played Bertie Wooster—and as Lord Peter Wimsey all added to his renown and credit. This record of his professional work has recently been split away from the main Ian Carmichael page as it was out of place there and not a full reflection of his work. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 21:17, 26 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Support – perhaps my favorite film of his was School for Scoundrels, so what with the rotten bounder already at FL, I'm glad to see this here too. The lead required very little, but I did notice a bit of repetion with "continued to appear throughout his career". The "throughout his career" was even a bit awkward in a few places as by the time you mentioned it, he was already into his career and paying into his pension pot. I tried to fix it, so you may want to have a look. The lists all look solid with everything linked and reliably cited. CassiantoTalk 23:09, 27 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks – much appreciated! Your edits are as welcome as they always are. Cheers – SchroCat (talk) 18:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comments - Ian Carmichael is a favorite supporting player in the few films I've seen him in.

- Footnote a. for A Midsummer Night's Dream has no citation.
- Suggestion (not a deal breaker) - It would make a cleaner column if you bundled the citations for The Lyric Revue, Say Who You Are, Getting Married and Overheard.
- Spot check of the references show no issues.
- Table formatting is in accordance with MOS:DTT.
- Overall, well done. Wish there were an image for this list, but I've searched the internet and found nothing but the non-free image already on his WP biography article. — Maile (talk) 16:36, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks Maile. I've added the citation for the footnote (good catch!) My rule of thumb for bundling is three citations, so I'll leave it for the present, if that's OK, but if there is another request for it, I'll certainly do it. Many thanks for your thoughts. Cheers. – SchroCat (talk) 18:09, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - There being no other issues I can see, I'm happy to give my support to this. If you have any time, I could use help with comments on my nomination. — Maile (talk) 19:20, 28 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 10:05, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "his death in 2009" -> "his death in 2010"
  • "a robot in R.U.R." -> "a robot in the science-fiction play R.U.R."? No big deal, but I doubt that R.U.R. is a particularly well known play, and it might be good to mention in exactly which genre of play Carmichael made his debut.
  • "On Carmichael's death" -> "On Carmichael's death in 2010", maybe? Might just provide a clearer timeframe for when specifically Barker was writing.
  • Is it "What Goes On?" or "What Goes On"? Or both?
  • "Mr. Dewlip" -> "Mr Dewlip"
  • Be my Guest -> Be My Guest
  • Lord Peter Wimsey is wikilinked throughout the radio table, but not at all in the television table – any reason for this?
  • Speaking of which, the Wimsey stories beginning with "The" should probably sort under their second word, e.g. ''[[Lord Peter Wimsey]]'': ''[[The Five Red Herrings]]'' -> {{Sort|Lord Peter Wimsey: Five Red Herrings|''[[Lord Peter Wimsey]]'': ''[[The Five Red Herrings]]''}}
  • "The Old School Chum" -> "the Old School Chum"
  • "the other Smallwood" -> "The other Smallwood"
  • The Big Money, The Colditz Story and The Lady Vanishes need to sort under B, C and V respectively.
  • "The play closed was RADA was shut down because" -> Is this what you mean to say here?
  • All these Guardian articles from the 60s, 70s and 80s – how have you been able to view them? Do you have the physical newspapers themselves, or is there an online archive that a reader might be able to access?

A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 15:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

  • All done, and manythanks for your time and thoughts. In regard to the Guardian question, it's both. The online database is a subscription only one, but some of the references were based on hard copy papers. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 16:41, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • The reason I ask is that I see one just called "Untitled". Was this a newspaper article without any kind of headline? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 21:49, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • From memory they vary, but include advertisements etc. – SchroCat (talk) 22:17, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fair enough. Do we have a precedent for referencing print with no title? It seems to me that putting "Untitled" might confuse a reasonable person into thinking that that's what its title actually was. Perhaps just <ref>''The Guardian'' (London). 7 March 1967. p. 5.</ref> would work as a reference? A Thousand Doors (talk | contribs) 22:45, 2 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thats what I was trying to avoid - I had that in a former FAC and was advised to put in Untitled to avoid confusion! Sadly the MoS is no help on this specific point either. - SchroCat (talk) 06:46, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
  • Many thanks ATD -as aways your thoughts and comments aremuch appreciated. Cheers - SchroCat (talk) 13:06, 3 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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