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2009 IIHF World Championship rosters edit

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Nominator(s): Salavat (talk) 03:02, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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Ok, so based exactly on the two previous featured lists (2008, 2007) here is the 2009 edition of IIHF World Championship rosters. Salavat (talk) 03:02, 14 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comments - big list, quick run-through...
  • "396 players on 16 national ice hockey teams" I'd prefer "from" rather than "on" but it's personal.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "the sport's highest-profile annual international tournament." def needs a couple of references.
Removed couldnt find anything. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The 2009 IIHF World Championship was the 73rd edition of the tournament and was held in Berne and Zurich-Kloten, Switzerland." - reword so you can lose one "was", i.e. "The 2009 IIHF WC, held in ..., was the 73rd..."
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Before the start of the World Championship" don't see a need to repeat World here as it's clear which championship you're talking about.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "an additional two players, either skaters or goaltenders," reads to me like they could add either two skaters or two goaltenders, but not one skater and one goaltender. Is that right?
it appears when reading the player entry form that it just simply thats that you can select 2 more players which can be skaters or goalies, i removed the "either skaters or goaltenders" so it reads simply as an additional 2 skaters. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "to their roster, for a maximum roster of 25 " no need to repeat roster here.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "must follow several criteria" I tend to think you would meet criteria rather than follow them.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Ilya Kovalchuk" link in the lead (I know it's in the caption).
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Canada's Martin St. Louis was the tournament's leading scorer[6] and Chris Mason of Canada led..." think of a more creative way of putting this so we don't have a repeat of Canada.
Changed. Hows that? Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Why is stats key a table with 5 then 7 rows? The four blank cells look odd to me.
I think it was originally used to block out the goaltenders stats from the skaters. I changed it to 6 and 6 though. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Min col sorts incorrectly.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Did you mention in the lead who won the championship?
Yep, Russia, first paragraph, last sentence. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Tardif's caption needs a period.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "seven of his games in the net which includes one shutout" - included.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Rambling Man (talk) 18:51, 15 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Being consistent with most other sporting lists, if a player plays 0 times, then the other statistics are usually en-dashes (which sort like a zero).
Now i think i read it right. I left the games player as a "0" and dashed out the other zeros. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Now you just need to get the en-dashes to sort as less than 0, so if you had 3, 4, 0 and – they'd sort –, 0, 3, 4 or 4, 3, 0, –. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 04:49, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think MOSFLAG would prefer you add a country name to the flags you're using with head coaches.
Did you mean ie change SWE to Sweden after the flagicon part. Thats what i did just thought maybe i misread it. Salavat (talk) 05:19, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to recall MOSFLAG suggesting the name of the country had to be mentioned as well as just the flag... The Rambling Man (talk) 18:45, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It does say it here. However i think it sounds a little strange. I can understand putting the country name next to the flag if nothing else is next to the flag but we have the coachs name directly next to it. the flagicon template does link to the respected country. However after reading this here, sentence 3, maybe they should be removed to avoid confusion. thoughts? Salavat (talk) 03:31, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm talking about the section where the MOS says "Accompany flags with country names". Perhaps consider the use of {{flagIOCathlete}}? The Rambling Man (talk) 09:09, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh im sorry i was thinking in a completly different direction, thanks for your patience. Anyways ive added the country now in the same format as {{flagIOCathlete}}. Salavat (talk) 15:10, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support: No issues at all from me, nice list. Harrias (talk) 09:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • "If a country selects fewer than the maximum allowed, they must choose the remaining players prior to the start of the tournament." Shouldn't this be in past tense?
Well its outlining the rules in general to entry procedure. However im not sure on how this can be fixed as my knowlegde on tenses is pretty shocking, any suggestions? Salavat (talk) 06:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well keeping in mind my tense knowledge is poor hows this: "A country which has selected fewer then the maximum allowed must have chosen the remaining players prior to the start of the tournament"? Salavat (talk) 10:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do that and switch "has" to "had", and it works. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 23:04, 7 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Salavat (talk) 09:35, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • "This switch may only happen once in the player's life." Move "only" to before "once", the word it's intended to modify.
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 06:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed. Salavat (talk) 06:28, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support – My issues have been taken care of, and this meets FL criteria. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 22:03, 11 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Resolved comments from NMajdan
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  • The Min columns for the goaltenders doesn't appear to be sorting correctly (in FF3.6). Take the first one, Austria, for instance. When sorting in ascending order, 299:24 comes before 60:00. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but 299 minutes is greater than 60. This appears to be an issue with all goaltender tables.
  • Well im assuming you mean firefox 3.6 so i upgraded to that version to see it for myself but everything seems to be sorting fine for me. I can go through and completly tag every number for the goaltenders stats if you think it is nessecary. Currently i have used the sort template on all the endashes which makes them a zero, and then any zeros as 1's and then the 1's as 2's if that situation arises. Is it only the Min column your having problems with?
  • Here's what I'm seeing. Its sorted in ascending order, but the larger number is on top.—NMajdan•talk 17:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ok im seeing it now, by bad, ill get on to fixing that issue. Salavat (talk) 18:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Great. Don't forgot about the dash issue below. Dashes should be below the lowest value.—NMajdan•talk 18:23, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Done, both issues should be fully done, sorry for the delay would of finished it straight away but internet decided to crash of me. Salavat (talk) 01:06, 6 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Also, when sorting in descending order, the dashes should be at the bottom.
Again that issue seems to be fine for me
  • As a suggestion, I'd recommend archival of the various rosters using WebCitation.
I started archiving some of the refs, normal web pages worked fine and the team roster worked for Austria but when i did Belarus it came up with a jumble of code, also same with this one, [2] any ideas? Salavat (talk) 18:20, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well done with the list.—NMajdan•talk 16:38, 5 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support. All my issues have been resolved.—NMajdan•talk 02:47, 8 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


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