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The following is an archived discussion of a featured list nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured list candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The list was promoted by Dabomb87 22:35, 14 March 2012 [1].

1984 Summer Olympics medal table edit

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Nominator(s): Miyagawa (talk) 13:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I feel that it meets all the criteria. My third Olympic medal table, although only my first for a non-London based games. As such I've attempted to use American English wherever possible (major instance is center vs centre). The article wasn't in a terrible shape prior to my edits, but I've modified the table in include row scopes and fix the sorting. Also added citations and found out why the medal totals don't match up. Miyagawa (talk) 13:58, 26 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from The Rambling Man (talk) 21:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • This always gets me "Approximately 6,829 " that's a very precise approximation...
  • You're right - its not like the IOC didn't know exactly who entered after all! Dropped Approximately. Miyagawa (talk) 20:00, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "48 countries won medals, leaving 92 countries " countries or NOCs?
  • "received 84 gold medals" table says 83.
  • " Soviet Union led " would think that should be Soviet Union-led?
  • China is just China, according to our article (and the table) so you can re-order the three Communist nations in the order they finished in the table.
  • "for an unrelated reason to " -> "for a reason unrelated to..."
  • The rather splendid NY Times map appears to have three authors (Byron, Cox, Ericson) so they could be mentioned in the citation.
  • Not hugely important, but would stick with US date formats in the refs, since one of the ref titles is in US format and the article is a USEng article.
  • Actually, just noticed "50 metre" in the lead caption and "(various) meters" in the other captions.

The Rambling Man (talk) 10:53, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved comments from NapHit (talk) 11:57, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comments
  • "Athletes from 48 NOCs won medals, leaving 92 NOCs without medals" not keen on leaving change to which left
  • You should link United States on the first instance in the second para not in the third para
  • "This broke the previous record of 78 from the 1904 Summer Olympics but still won less medals overall than the previous record." should be a comma after olympics, and it seems like there is a word missing as well, they should be after but
  • The wikilink to United States the country should no be wikilinked as linking common terms is frowned upon see WP:LINK
  • Same with the romania, china and yugoslavia links
  • The sort icon in the key is the old sort key, would recommend replacing it with the new one

NapHit (talk) 20:01, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • All of your comments should now be fixed. I didn't link United States in the first instance as per your later comment, but I did remove it from the third. Miyagawa (talk) 00:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Parutakupiu (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
;Comments:
  • "... held in Los Angeles, California, USA..." – Replace "USA" with "United States" (don't link it, though)
  • "6,829 athletes from 140 NOCs..." – Don't begin a sentence with a numeral. Rephrase it to avoid this.
    • Copyedited to make it ideal.
  • I'd merge the second paragraph with the first one, as the former's first sentence is related to the latter's final sentence.
  • "Athletes from 48 NOCs won medals, leaving 92 NOCs without medals. Of those that won medals, athletes from 25 nations won gold medals." – This is always a mess to read... Try: "Athletes from 48 NOCs won medals, of which 25 secured at least a gold medal. As a result, 92 NOCs were left without any medal."
  • Be consistent with the use of "NOCs" instead of "nations"/"countries"
  • Capitalize "games" (it's the Olympic Games)
  • Why not specifying the reason for Albania's absence?
  • "... the table is ordered by the number of gold medals the athletes from a nation NOC have won (in this context, a "nation" is an entity represented by a National Olympic Committee)."
  • Fixed, I kept the bracketed sentence but changed it to explain about the NOCs. Miyagawa (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "The number of bronze medals awarded were was greater than either the number of gold or silver medals."
  • four way → four-way
  • I see no need in keeping that Table sub-heading and also the note about how sorting is made. I'd remove them altogether.

— Parutakupiu (talk) 23:13, 29 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

  • Added it back again, as it helps to remind the readers about the NOC abbreviation in the column heading. Miyagawa (talk) 19:00, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Made the alternatives as suggested. As for the Albanian question, I'm struggling to find a reliable source for it, but Albania at the time boycotted several Olympics and other international sporting events, not limited to the 1980 and 1984 Games. Miyagawa (talk) 00:07, 1 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • There a few items missing, still. I made small copyedits to the prose and also tweaked some of the image captions. Parutakupiu (talk) 14:15, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support. Parutakupiu (talk) 20:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Comments –

  • The opening is reminiscent of those "This is a list of" beginnings that we cracked down on a long time ago. Would it be possible to recast it?
  • Redrew the opening line based on the 1980 table. Should be less "listy" now. Miyagawa (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • "over the United States support of Israel" Shouldn't it be States'?
  • Medal table: "Also, a second bronze medal was awarded for each of the boxing, judo events...". Replace the comma with "and". Giants2008 (Talk) 01:15, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Fixed as noted. That originally came about as I briefly had it as boxing, judo and tennis events. Then I realised the tennis events were only exhibition events and removed them - then promptly neglected to fix the grammar. Miyagawa (talk) 21:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]


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