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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article review. Please do not modify it. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page or at Wikipedia talk:Featured article review. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was delisted by Nikkimaria via FACBot (talk) 0:13, 20 August 2021 (UTC) [1].

Karmichael Hunt edit

Notified: User talk:SpecialWindler, User talk:rulesfan, WT:BIOG, Rugby league, Australian noticeboard, Rugby union, AFL project, New Zealand board talk page notification from April 2021

Review section edit

I am nominating this featured article for review because many problems have crept into this FA since it was promoted in 2007 when standards were much lower and also because at the time the subject had been a pro sportsperson for about 2 years and since then about 85% of his career has passed and he has jumped around into different sports (to AFL, to rugby union and back to the original sport rugby league) and those parts are not covered in as much depth and these parts have been added in a disjointed way, so there is more depth on the early career even though he also reached international level at rugby union. Further, the context is which he tried to change sports is not really explained properly (ie $$ because an established international player would not switch to a domestic-only sport that they are not familiar with except that the local sport pays much more $ and deliberately paid him as one of the best in the league as a publicity stunt even though he has no qualifications and obviously they switched for $$) and later when he switched back it is not explained why he did so. Also the bio is split up in sports formats, and this might not be the best given that he went RL -> RU -> AFL -> RU -> RL and often there is no explanation of the rationale for transition. Also there is no section on playing style, which is not really even explained at all for RU and changes in playing style/positions etc Bumbubookworm (talk) 20:33, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note also that RetiredDuke (talk · contribs) pointed out other structural and proportioning issues regarding the lead and personal life in the earlier notice Bumbubookworm (talk) 20:33, 24 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to FARC - minimal engagement, and definite issues. This has probably the most confusing structure I've seen in a while. It just bounces around between different times, and there's no real connecting between the various subjects. There's a section titled 2008 Rugby League World Cup and beyond that doesn't contain anything from post-2009. The New South Wales Waratahs (2019-2020) section just consists of a single sentence saying that he signed a contract. What happened to him with the NSW club? It's unclear what exactly "In Cairns, Hunt had a breakthrough game against the Bendigo Bombers showing dramatic improvement" as its vague what "breakthrough game" and "dramatic performance" mean. "Hunt's coaching staff have speculated him to make an experimental shift into the midfield" - why is something from 2010 referred to as "have"? This article is both too thin for later events, and generally lacks cohesion throughout. Hog Farm Talk 15:50, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Move to FARC - Minimal engagement. The article's structure is messy, as pointed out by Hog Farm, and there are numerous short paragraphs that need to be merged together or deleted. This article needs a complete rewrite to become chronological. Z1720 (talk) 19:29, 5 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

FARC section edit

Issues raised in the review section include coverage and organization. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:05, 7 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist. Unsourced statements. There's also no mention anywhere in the article as far as I can see of his girlfriends or wife, which raises comprehensiveness concerns. DrKay (talk) 16:04, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist - newer events are not fully discussed, and the structure is extremely convoluted. Hog Farm Talk 17:03, 13 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delist This article was promoted in 2007, when the young man was just in his third year as a professional player... and then he proceeded to have the most confusing sports career I've ever seen. He kept changing between football codes and leagues, and the article does not do a good job displaying all the info in a clear way. There's also plenty of unsourced content in here. Prime example of why it isn't ideal to invest on a FA on a living person that is just starting off their career. RetiredDuke (talk) 11:11, 15 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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