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The following is an archived discussion of a featured article nomination. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the article's talk page or in Wikipedia talk:Featured article candidates. No further edits should be made to this page.

The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 17:13, 16 November 2011 [1].

Persoonia lanceolata edit

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Nominator(s): Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured article because I think I have scoured everything I possibly can for this plant, and anything of note is now here (and it's a fairly short article). I promise to be prompt in replying. I love these plants as they are very green. Yes this is a wikicup nomination...so have at it (PS: Note that the genus is named after a mycologist...but this is a member of the proteaceae, two of my favourite topics :)) .Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Ref 6; Knight, Joseph contains a bare url and an wiki link with only one [] on either side.
fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The page no in ref 18 is bolded, while none of the other page numbers are bolded. Wtf? Why do you hate wiki?
someone stole the page numbers.....repatriated now Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ref 7 needs to be reformatted.
done Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
These are small things. Have read the page today and not seen anything otherwise that I cannot fix myself. Ceoil (talk) 13:55, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Spotchecks completed on 3 sources; no copy vio or close pharaphrasing; sources back claims. Ceoil (talk) 19:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support on the basis of good sourcing, the article is well written, seems to be comprenhsive, and all images all free. (note I went through it in detail yesterday, before the nom). Ceoil (talk) 13:08, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Source review - spotchecks not done, after e/c with Ceoil. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:57, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • FN 2: date?
tricky as autogenerated to today's date on website. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Be consistent in whether you provide locations for publishers. If you do decide to include them, be consistent in what is and is not abbreviated
  • FN 6, 7: formatting
see above Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Check for minor inconsistencies like doubled periods
  • FN 13: duplication
  • FN 14: include both authors?
combined refs - only a few pages anyway Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:58, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
dunno how 18's pagenumbers didn't get there, fixed now Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:56, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Link check - no DAB-links, no dead external links, 2 minor wikilinks fixed. GermanJoe (talk) 15:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This is a WikiCup nomination. The following nominators are WikiCup participants: Casliber. To the nominator: if you do not intend to submit this article at the WikiCup, feel free to remove this notice. UcuchaBot (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support with comments Usual high standard from a regular, just a few niggles Jimfbleak - talk to me? 06:05, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

all fine Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In my browser, the image for "Description" is displacing the heading below, is it possible to improve the appearance?
this is tricky, and no one solution will be good in all browsers. I did put the rangemap in the taxobox, which might lengthen the description section a tad. Musing..... Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:19, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • appear in summer and autumn followed by — comma after autumn?
yeah, comma helps and duly added Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:48, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • the lanceolata group — italics?
double-checked. Yes italics Casliber (talk · contribs) 11:14, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • The annual rainfall of the area it occurs in the Sydney Basin is 900–1,400 mm (35–55 in), and it ranges from sea level... — I don't like this, reads as if it's the rain that's ranging, which it probably does, can you tweak?
(a) rejigged the range bit to beginning, and (b) it is correct in that the rainfall where it occurs is 900-1400mm. There are other parts of the Sydney Basin which are dryer. Casliber (talk · contribs) 07:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The layout's not a big deal, everything else OK Jimfbleak - talk to me? 11:41, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from J Milburn-

  • "the seed are spread" Singular/plural?
oops, plural, fixed Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Andrews also named P. latifolia from plants" Odd phrase
me sloppy. overfamiliar with descriptions. reworded Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:31, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the map caption, could you specify what's being shown? As someone not from Australia, I could only guess the territory.
As a native New South Welshman I am mortally offended you couldn't recognise the premier Aussie state (sigh)...now named Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:33, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Capitalise "lance-leaf geebung" in the taxobox? Also, there's no mention of the common name outside the lead/taxobox
name added to taxonomy section, and ref removed from lead, and capp'ed in taxobox Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Persoonia lanceolata is described as auxotelic" Abbreviate binomial?
abbreviated Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:37, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "0.5 cm (0.20 in)" One sigfig to two sigfigs
one sigfigged Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "On 0.5 cm (0.20 in) stalks, the flowers may reach 1 cm (0.39 in) in dimensions, and are typical for the genus." Ref?
got it now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 19:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Animals can convey seed for one or two kilometres from where they have fead."
oops, fixed now Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:49, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "Filiglossa bees of the same genus also feed only on Persoonia flowers but do not appear to be effective pollinators." Same genus as what? Surely, Filiglossa is the genus?
Filiglossa is subgenus within Leioproctus - better (?) Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "European honeybee (Apis mellifera)" For consistency, it should be the common names which are linked
streamlined Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:52, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • In the ecology section, don't be scared of redlinks. All these species, ideally, will eventually have articles, so redlinks are a good thing.
duly redlinked Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:28, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "by sandmining" What's that? Link?
linked now Casliber (talk · contribs) 12:54, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • "hardy to moderate frosts and dry spells" Unclear
"tolerates" much less jargony and essentially synonymous. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:05, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
done Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Are the drupes edible? Have they or any other part of the plant ever seen use by humans, other than horticultural uses?
Yes the fruit of most if not all species are edible, and were consumed by aborigines. I have not found a specific reference to lanceolata though but might put a general sentence in. found two refs for this species being edible. The foliage of many species was used as decoration, but haven't seen a specific reference for this species. Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:14, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Generally a great article- not super-long, but that's obviously not a problem. I'm sure I'll be happy to support once these issues are resolved. J Milburn (talk) 23:02, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support, unless someone else raises any legitimate issues. The article's looking fantastic. J Milburn (talk) 21:58, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Support – "Within the genus Persoonia, Persoonia lanceolata belongs to the lanceolata group of a 58 closely related species." The "a" should be removed from this. Other than that the writing looks good. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 15:20, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
got it, how'd I miss that one......... Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:35, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It's easier than you think, isn't it? That's the only complaint I had about the article, so I moved to support up there. Nice work. Giants2008 (27 and counting) 16:05, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question — Can you add accessdates for refs 1, 5, 6, 7, 11, 13, 14, 15, 18, and 19? HurricaneFan25 | talk 22:05, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The latest consensus is to add accessdates to those which are web only, not published books or journal articles. Those are done. The template didn't have a slot for it so have slotted it in afterwards. Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I went out for a bushwalk today and got this and this to illustrate the drupes - I was chuffed with the fill-in flash on one but maybe the other is better...Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:08, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
PS: Also got a photo of the trunk today, but I am not sure I can fit it in the article....? Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible to adjust the lead (and body if necessary) for WP:SEASON? I know it's not always doable ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 18:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Does that help? Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It does, but could you deal with spring and any other occurrences as well? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Oops, missed that. fixed now. Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]


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